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:::I LIKE this idea!!! --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 15:25, 26 June 2012 (CDT)
:::I LIKE this idea!!! --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 15:25, 26 June 2012 (CDT)
::::One small modification to my previous idea, probably best to combine the first two section into "Kalashnikov pattern firearms" and split by country with the first being Soviet/Russian, and then each country by weapon type. This way the section would line up better and look neater.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 15:40, 26 June 2012 (CDT)
::::One small modification to my previous idea, probably best to combine the first two section into "Kalashnikov pattern firearms" and split by country with the first being Soviet/Russian, and then each country by weapon type. This way the section would line up better and look neater.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 15:40, 26 June 2012 (CDT)
:::::I am going to totally defer to your knowledge here. I know the coding, you guys know the guns. Do what you think is best. :-) --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 16:44, 26 June 2012 (CDT)
Below is my attempt at a template as it stands.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 08:23, 27 June 2012 (CDT)
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!align=center colspan="3" width="1000" bgcolor=#D0E7FF |<div style="font-size: 125%;">[[:Category:AK Derivatives|AK Pattern Firearms]] ([[AK_Gallery#Soviet.2FRussian_AK_Models|Gallery]])</div>
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|rowspan =5 bgcolor=#D0E7FF align=center width="125"|'''[[AK_Gallery#Soviet.2FRussian_AK_Models|Soviet/Russian]]'''||bgcolor=#D0D0D0 style="padding-left: 1em" width="100"|'''[[AK_Gallery#Soviet.2FRussian_AK_Models|Assault Rifles]]'''||bgcolor=#E8E8E8 style="padding-left: 1em" width="650"|[[AK-12]]{{@}}[[AK-47]]{{@}}[[AK-74]]{{@}}[[AK-101]]{{@}}[[AK-103]]{{@}}[[AK-107]]{{@}}[[AK-108]]{{@}}[[AKM]]{{@}}[[AKMS]]
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|bgcolor=#D0D0D0 style="padding-left: 1em" width="100"|'''[[AK_Gallery#Carbine|Carbines]]'''||style="padding-left: 1em"|[[AK-9]]{{@}}[[AK-102]]{{@}}[[AK-104]]{{@}}[[AK-105]]{{@}}[[AKMSU]]{{@}}[[AKS-74U]]
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|bgcolor=#D0D0D0 style="padding-left: 1em" width="100"|'''[[AK_Gallery#Sniper|Sniper Rifles]]'''||bgcolor=#E8E8E8 style="padding-left: 1em"|[[SAIGA 308]]
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|bgcolor=#D0D0D0 style="padding-left: 1em" width="100"|'''[[AK_Gallery#Machine_Gun|Machine Guns]]'''||style="padding-left: 1em"|[[RPK]]{{@}}[[RPK-74]]
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|bgcolor=#D0D0D0 style="padding-left: 1em" width="100"|'''[[AK_Gallery#Shotgun|Shotguns]]'''||bgcolor=#E8E8E8 style="padding-left: 1em"|[[Saiga 12]]{{@}}[[Saiga 20]]{{@}}[[Saiga .410]]
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|rowspan =2 bgcolor=#D0E7FF align=center width="125"|'''[[AK_Gallery#Foreign_AK_Models|Bulgarian]]'''||bgcolor=#D0D0D0 style="padding-left: 1em" width="100"|'''[[AK_Gallery#Foreign_AK_Models|Assault Rifles]]'''||style="padding-left: 1em" width="650"|[[Arsenal AR]]{{@}}[[Arsenal AR-F]]{{@}}[[Arsenal AR-M1]]{{@}}[[Arsenal AR-M1F]]{{@}}[[Arsenal SAR-M1]]
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|bgcolor=#D0D0D0 style="padding-left: 1em" width="100"|'''[[AK_Gallery#Carbine|Carbines]]'''||bgcolor=#E8E8E8 style="padding-left: 1em"|[[Arsenal AR-SF]]{{@}}[[Arsenal AR-M4SF]]
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|rowspan =3 bgcolor=#D0E7FF align=center width="125"|'''[[AK_Gallery#Foreign_AK_Models|Chinese]]'''||bgcolor=#D0D0D0 style="padding-left: 1em" width="100"|'''[[AK_Gallery#Soviet.2FRussian_AK_Models|Assault Rifles]]'''||style="padding-left: 1em" width="650"|[[Norinco MAK-90]]{{@}}[[Norinco Type 56]]{{@}}[[Norinco Type 56-1]]{{@}}[[Norinco Type 56-2]]{{@}}[[Norinco Type 84S]]{{@}}[[Norinco Type 84S|Norinco Type 84S Underfolder]]
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|bgcolor=#D0D0D0 style="padding-left: 1em" width="100"|'''[[AK_Gallery#Carbine|Carbines]]'''||bgcolor=#E8E8E8 style="padding-left: 1em"|[[Norinco Type 56C]]
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|bgcolor=#D0D0D0 style="padding-left: 1em" width="100"|'''[[AK_Gallery#Sniper|Sniper Rifles]]'''||style="padding-left: 1em"|[[Norinco Type 84S|Norinco Type 84S Target]]{{@}}[[Norinco Type 84S|Norinco Type 84S Match]]
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|rowspan =1 bgcolor=#D0E7FF align=center width="125"|'''[[AK_Gallery#Foreign_AK_Models|East German]]'''||bgcolor=#D0D0D0 style="padding-left: 1em" width="100"|'''[[AK_Gallery#Foreign_AK_Models|Assault Rifles]]'''||bgcolor=#E8E8E8 style="padding-left: 1em" width="650"|[[MPi-KM-72]]{{@}}[[MPi-KMS-72]]
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|rowspan =2 bgcolor=#D0E7FF align=center width="125"|'''[[AK_Gallery#Foreign_AK_Models|Hungarian]]'''||bgcolor=#D0D0D0 style="padding-left: 1em" width="100"|'''[[AK_Gallery#Foreign_AK_Models|Assault Rifles]]'''||style="padding-left: 1em" width="650"|[[AKM-63]]{{@}}[[FEG NGM-81]]
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|bgcolor=#D0D0D0 style="padding-left: 1em" width="100"|'''[[AK_Gallery#Carbine|Carbines]]'''||bgcolor=#E8E8E8 style="padding-left: 1em"|[[AMD-65]]
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|rowspan =2 bgcolor=#D0E7FF align=center width="125"|'''[[AK_Gallery#Foreign_AK_Models|Romanian]]'''||bgcolor=#D0D0D0 style="padding-left: 1em" width="100"|'''[[AK_Gallery#Foreign_AK_Models|Assault Rifles]]'''||style="padding-left: 1em" width="650"|[[AIM]]{{@}}[[AIM-74]]{{@}}[[AIMS]]{{@}}[[AIMS-74]]{{@}}[[WASR]]
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|bgcolor=#D0D0D0 style="padding-left: 1em" width="100"|'''[[AK_Gallery#Carbine|Carbines]]'''||bgcolor=#E8E8E8 style="padding-left: 1em"|[[AIMR]]
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|rowspan =4 bgcolor=#D0E7FF align=center width="125"|'''[[AK_Gallery#Foreign_AK_Models|Yugoslavian]]'''||bgcolor=#D0D0D0 style="padding-left: 1em" width="100"|'''[[AK_Gallery#Foreign_AK_Models|Assault Rifles]]'''||style="padding-left: 1em" width="650"|[[Zastava M70B1]]{{@}}[[Zastava M70AB2]]
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|bgcolor=#D0D0D0 style="padding-left: 1em" width="100"|'''[[AK_Gallery#Carbine|Carbines]]'''||bgcolor=#E8E8E8 style="padding-left: 1em"|[[Zastava M85]]{{@}}[[Zastava M92]]
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|bgcolor=#D0D0D0 style="padding-left: 1em" width="100"|'''[[AK_Gallery#Machine_Gun|Machine Guns]]'''||style="padding-left: 1em"|[[Zastava M72B1 ]]
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{|border="0" style="border: 1px solid #D0E7FF; background-color:#ffffff; text-align:left; font-size: 95%"
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!align=center colspan="3" width="1000" bgcolor=#D0E7FF |<div style="font-size: 125%;">[[:Category:AK Derivatives|AK Derivatives]] ([[AK_Gallery#AK_Derivatives|Gallery]])</div>
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|rowspan =1 bgcolor=#D0E7FF align=center width="125"|'''[[AK_Gallery#AK_Derivatives|Chinese]]'''||bgcolor=#D0D0D0 style="padding-left: 1em" width="100"|'''[[AK_Gallery#AK_Derivatives|Assault Rifles]]'''||bgcolor=#E8E8E8 style="padding-left: 1em" width="650"|[[Norinco Type 86S]]
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|rowspan =2 bgcolor=#D0E7FF align=center width="125"|'''[[AK_Gallery#AK_Derivatives|Finnish]]'''||bgcolor=#D0D0D0 style="padding-left: 1em" width="100"|'''[[AK_Gallery#AK_Derivatives|Assault Rifles]]'''||style="padding-left: 1em" width="650"|[[Valmet M62]]{{@}}[[Valmet M71]]{{@}}[[Valmet M76]]{{@}}[[Valmet M82]]{{@}}[[Valmet M95]]
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|bgcolor=#D0D0D0 style="padding-left: 1em" width="100"|'''[[AK_Gallery#Machine_Gun|Machine Guns]]'''||bgcolor=#E8E8E8 style="padding-left: 1em"|[[Valmet M78]]
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|rowspan =4 bgcolor=#D0E7FF align=center width="125"|'''[[AK_Gallery#AK_Derivatives|Israeli]]'''||bgcolor=#D0D0D0 style="padding-left: 1em" width="100"|'''[[AK_Gallery#AK_Derivatives|Assault Rifles]]'''||style="padding-left: 1em" width="650"|[[Galil AR]]
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|bgcolor=#D0D0D0 style="padding-left: 1em" width="100"|'''[[AK_Gallery#Carbine|Carbines]]'''||bgcolor=#E8E8E8 style="padding-left: 1em"|[[Galil ACE 21]]{{@}}[[Galil MAR]]{{@}}[[Galil SAR]]
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|bgcolor=#D0D0D0 style="padding-left: 1em" width="100"|'''[[AK_Gallery#Machine_Gun|Machine Guns]]'''||style="padding-left: 1em"|[[Galil ARM]]
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|bgcolor=#D0D0D0 style="padding-left: 1em" width="100"|'''[[AK_Gallery#Sniper|Sniper Rifles]]'''||bgcolor=#E8E8E8 style="padding-left: 1em"|[[Galil Sniper Rifle ]]{{@}}[[SR-99]]
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|rowspan =1 bgcolor=#D0E7FF align=center width="125"|'''[[AK_Gallery#AK_Derivatives|Romanian]]'''||bgcolor=#D0D0D0 style="padding-left: 1em" width="100"|'''[[AK_Gallery#Sniper|Sniper Rifles]]'''||style="padding-left: 1em"|[[FPK / PSL Sniper Rifle]]
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|rowspan =2 bgcolor=#D0E7FF align=center width="125"|'''[[AK_Gallery#AK_Derivatives|South African]]'''||bgcolor=#D0D0D0 style="padding-left: 1em" width="100"|'''[[AK_Gallery#AK_Derivatives|Assault Rifles]]'''||bgcolor=#E8E8E8 style="padding-left: 1em" width="650"|[[Vektor CR-21 ]]{{@}}[[Vektor R4]]
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|bgcolor=#D0D0D0 style="padding-left: 1em" width="100"|'''[[AK_Gallery#Carbine|Carbines]]'''||style="padding-left: 1em"|[[Vektor R5]]{{@}}[[Vektor R6]]
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|rowspan =1 bgcolor=#D0E7FF align=center width="125"|'''[[AK_Gallery#AK_Derivatives|Yugoslavian]]'''||bgcolor=#D0D0D0 style="padding-left: 1em" width="100"|'''[[AK_Gallery#Sniper|Sniper Rifles]]'''||bgcolor=#E8E8E8 style="padding-left: 1em"|[[Zastava M76]]
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!align=center colspan="3" width="1000" bgcolor=#D0E7FF |<div style="font-size: 125%;">[[:Category:AK Derivatives|Firearm visually resembling the AK]] ([[AK_Gallery#Designs_Resembling_the_AK|Gallery]])</div>
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|rowspan =2 bgcolor=#D0E7FF align=center width="125"|'''[[AK_Gallery#AK_Derivatives|Soviet/Russian]]'''||bgcolor=#D0D0D0 style="padding-left: 1em" width="100"|'''[[AK_Gallery#Designs_Resembling_the_AK|Assault Rifles]]'''||bgcolor=#E8E8E8 style="padding-left: 1em" width="650"|[[AEK-971]]{{@}}[[AEK-972]]{{@}}[[AEK-973]]{{@}}[[AN-94]]{{@}}[[AS Val]]
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|bgcolor=#D0D0D0 style="padding-left: 1em" width="100"|'''[[AK_Gallery#Sniper|Sniper Rifles]]'''||style="padding-left: 1em"|[[SVD Dragunov]]{{@}}[[SVDS Dragunov]]{{@}}[[SVU Dragunov]]{{@}}[[VSS Vintorez]]
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|rowspan =2 bgcolor=#D0E7FF align=center width="125"|'''[[AK_Gallery#Designs_Resembling_the_AK|Chinese]]'''||bgcolor=#D0D0D0 style="padding-left: 1em" width="100"|'''[[AK_Gallery#Designs_Resembling_the_AK|Assault Rifles]]'''||bgcolor=#E8E8E8 style="padding-left: 1em" width="650"|[[Norinco QBZ-03]]{{@}}[[Norinco Type 81]]{{@}}[[Norinco Type 81-I]]
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|bgcolor=#D0D0D0 style="padding-left: 1em" width="100"|'''[[AK_Gallery#Sniper|Sniper Rifles]]'''||style="padding-left: 1em"|[[Norinco NDM-86 ]]
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|rowspan =1 bgcolor=#D0E7FF align=center width="125"|'''[[AK_Gallery#Designs_Resembling_the_AK|Czechoslovakian]]'''||bgcolor=#D0D0D0 style="padding-left: 1em" width="100"|'''[[AK_Gallery#Designs_Resembling_the_AK|Assault Rifles]]'''||bgcolor=#E8E8E8 style="padding-left: 1em" width="650"|[[Sa vz. 58 P|Sa. Vz. 58P]]{{@}}[[Sa vz. 58 V|Sa. Vz. 58V]]
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Looks AMAZING! Well done!! --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 09:17, 27 June 2012 (CDT)
== Bizon ==
I just realised the [[Izhmash PP-19 Bizon]] isn't on here, and I think it probably should be. Only problem is where to put it. I'm currently leaning towards putting it in the "AK pattern" rather than "visually resembling" section as it is actually built an a shortened AK-74 receiver and uses AK-74 stock, grip, trigger pack and rear sight (AKS-74U), so it is in effect just a rechambered AK-74 with a funky magazine. Anyone else have an opinion on this?  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 15:13, 2 July 2012 (CDT)
:I would put it in the AK Pattern section, it was made by Izhmash after all. They just tweaked the good old recipe. --[[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] 03:23, 3 July 2012 (CDT)

Latest revision as of 19:39, 23 September 2022

So how you want to do this template? Include only true AK-pattern guns (like on wikipedia), or include guns like the VSS too, which only look like AK variants, but in reality have nothing to do with that design? --bozitojugg3rn4ut 14:06, 26 June 2012 (CDT)

Maybe 2 sections. 1 that contains true AKs and 1 that contains AK "look alikes"? --Zackmann08 14:29, 26 June 2012 (CDT)
I would separate them along similar lines as the AK gallers, with "Soviet manufactured Kalashnikov pattern firearms" "Foreign manufactured Kalashnikov pattern firearms" "Firearms derived from the Kalashnikov" and "Firearms visually resembling the Kalashnikov". First section would be the russian weapons, separated into assault rifles, carbines, machine guns and sniper rifles. Then next section would be split up by country. Not sure whether to split each section by weapon type or not, would need to play it by ear depending on how many you were ending up with. If not splitting by type, could put the weapon type in brackets after the name. It gets a bit tricky when you get into AK derived, and visually resembling the AK as there can be a fine line. For example, the I would put the SVD in the visually similar, as it shares no parts with the AK and has a different operating system. However the visually similar FPK/PSL is derived from the RPK, so would go in the AK derivatives section. Stuff like the Valmet (and hence the Galil and Vektor rifles) would go in the derivatives section, as although not of the AK pattern they are a modification to the design. But that's just my opinion on how it should be broken down. --commando552 15:23, 26 June 2012 (CDT)
I LIKE this idea!!! --Zackmann08 15:25, 26 June 2012 (CDT)
One small modification to my previous idea, probably best to combine the first two section into "Kalashnikov pattern firearms" and split by country with the first being Soviet/Russian, and then each country by weapon type. This way the section would line up better and look neater. --commando552 15:40, 26 June 2012 (CDT)
I am going to totally defer to your knowledge here. I know the coding, you guys know the guns. Do what you think is best. :-) --Zackmann08 16:44, 26 June 2012 (CDT)

Below is my attempt at a template as it stands. --commando552 08:23, 27 June 2012 (CDT)

Soviet/Russian Assault Rifles AK-12  •  AK-47  •  AK-74  •  AK-101  •  AK-103  •  AK-107  •  AK-108  •  AKM  •  AKMS
Carbines AK-9  •  AK-102  •  AK-104  •  AK-105  •  AKMSU  •  AKS-74U
Sniper Rifles SAIGA 308
Machine Guns RPK  •  RPK-74
Shotguns Saiga 12  •  Saiga 20  •  Saiga .410
Bulgarian Assault Rifles Arsenal AR  •  Arsenal AR-F  •  Arsenal AR-M1  •  Arsenal AR-M1F  •  Arsenal SAR-M1
Carbines Arsenal AR-SF  •  Arsenal AR-M4SF
Chinese Assault Rifles Norinco MAK-90  •  Norinco Type 56  •  Norinco Type 56-1  •  Norinco Type 56-2  •  Norinco Type 84S  •  Norinco Type 84S Underfolder
Carbines Norinco Type 56C
Sniper Rifles Norinco Type 84S Target  •  Norinco Type 84S Match
East German Assault Rifles MPi-KM-72  •  MPi-KMS-72
Hungarian Assault Rifles AKM-63  •  FEG NGM-81
Carbines AMD-65
Romanian Assault Rifles AIM  •  AIM-74  •  AIMS  •  AIMS-74  •  WASR
Carbines AIMR
Yugoslavian Assault Rifles Zastava M70B1  •  Zastava M70AB2
Carbines Zastava M85  •  Zastava M92
Machine Guns Zastava M72B1
Chinese Assault Rifles Norinco Type 86S
Finnish Assault Rifles Valmet M62  •  Valmet M71  •  Valmet M76  •  Valmet M82  •  Valmet M95
Machine Guns Valmet M78
Israeli Assault Rifles Galil AR
Carbines Galil ACE 21  •  Galil MAR  •  Galil SAR
Machine Guns Galil ARM
Sniper Rifles Galil Sniper Rifle   •  SR-99
Romanian Sniper Rifles FPK / PSL Sniper Rifle
South African Assault Rifles Vektor CR-21   •  Vektor R4
Carbines Vektor R5  •  Vektor R6
Yugoslavian Sniper Rifles Zastava M76
Soviet/Russian Assault Rifles AEK-971  •  AEK-972  •  AEK-973  •  AN-94  •  AS Val
Sniper Rifles SVD Dragunov  •  SVDS Dragunov  •  SVU Dragunov  •  VSS Vintorez
Chinese Assault Rifles Norinco QBZ-03  •  Norinco Type 81  •  Norinco Type 81-I
Sniper Rifles Norinco NDM-86
Czechoslovakian Assault Rifles Sa. Vz. 58P  •  Sa. Vz. 58V

Looks AMAZING! Well done!! --Zackmann08 09:17, 27 June 2012 (CDT)

Bizon

I just realised the Izhmash PP-19 Bizon isn't on here, and I think it probably should be. Only problem is where to put it. I'm currently leaning towards putting it in the "AK pattern" rather than "visually resembling" section as it is actually built an a shortened AK-74 receiver and uses AK-74 stock, grip, trigger pack and rear sight (AKS-74U), so it is in effect just a rechambered AK-74 with a funky magazine. Anyone else have an opinion on this? --commando552 15:13, 2 July 2012 (CDT)

I would put it in the AK Pattern section, it was made by Izhmash after all. They just tweaked the good old recipe. --bozitojugg3rn4ut 03:23, 3 July 2012 (CDT)
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