LAPD SWAT members including Jack Traven (Keanu Reeves) and Harry Temple (Jeff Daniels) keep M1911A1 pistols as their sidearms in the film. Even though the LAPD standard issue sidearm for patrol officers were in 9mm caliber, LAPD SWAT had always used .45 M1911 models as their sidearm. These 1911 models varied differently for each user, many of which where handguns originally confiscated from criminals and tricked out by the department "gun cage jockey" who would turn the guns into tactical weapons. These were also the first guns to be fitted with frame mounted flashlights. After deciding to have the department issue these guns so the officers wouldn't have to buy them, they tested several models until they decided upon the Kimber Custom TLE II as their sidearms. Since this film is before the issue of these guns, the 1911s can be any type of model.
Error creating thumbnail: File missingSpringfield Armory Mil-spec M1911A1 - .45 ACP. This was one of the most commonly seen .45s used by LAPD SWAT before the Kimber Custom TLE II.Error creating thumbnail: File missingJack readies his M1911A1 as Harry opens the elavator hatch.Error creating thumbnail: File missingJack points his M1911A1 at Howard Payne (Dennis Hopper) through the hatch in the roof.Error creating thumbnail: File missingJack points his M1911A1 at Payne when he takes Harry hostage.Error creating thumbnail: File missingJack points his M1911A1 at Payne as he holds Harry hostage.Error creating thumbnail: File missingWhen discussing a scenerio in which a terrorist holds a hostage at gunpoint at 100 yards, Jack saids to wound the hostage to slow down the terrorist. Unfortunately for Harry, he shows he truly believes in this method and shoots Harry in the leg (missing his Femoral Artery by millimeters!). Harry curses him for this and he shrugs a "what did you expect" shrug.Error creating thumbnail: File missingJack points his M1911A1 at Payne, who is now without a hostage.Error creating thumbnail: File missingHarry searches Paynes house with his M1911A1 at the ready, keeping a nice two-handed high-grip. This model appears to be a Springfield Armory Mil-Spec.
Heckler & Koch HK94A3 (chopped and converted)
Jack and Harry are seen using Heckler & Koch HK94A3 collapsing stock civilian guns with 16" barrels chopped and converted to resemble MP5A3s with Surefire light dedicated forends. They can be noted as HK94s instead of MP5A3s because of the lack of barrel lugs, a push-pin set and a paddle magazine release behind the magazine.
A SWAT member following Harry into Payne's house is seen using a full-stock Heckler & Koch HK94A2 16" barrel civilian gun chopped and converted to resemble an MP5A2 with a Surefire light dedicated forend.
Just so you know, you cut down the barrel a little TOO much on this picture.
Yeah I know (had to do it in a hurry). But these "chopped" pics are just stand ins until MPM finds these chopped guns (that is, if he can) - Gunmaster45
Jack Traven (Keanu Reeves) keeps the older model Smith & Wesson 6904 chambered in 9mm as his off-duty sidearm in the film. This gun was built as a concealable 12 shot version of the 5904 model, with a 3.5" barrel and a bobbed hammer.
Howard Payne (Dennis Hopper) uses a Mossberg 500 Mariner fitted with a pistol grip with the barrel sawed down to 16" to shoot at Jack and Harry through the roof of the elavator (which firing a shotgun in an elavator would result in permanant hearing damage almost instantly). When Harry falls through, he continues to fire a Jack, taking the elavator to the top floor to force Jack to jump in. When he does, he sticks the shotgun in his face and pulls the trigger, only to find the gun is empty. In reality, his Mossberg is a six shot (including one in the chamber), not eight like it is portrayed in the film.
The LAPD SWAT snipers waiting for Payne to take his money watch the exchange site with sniper rifles, all too far away for clear identification. The one closest seen appears to be a Remington 700PSS.
Howard Payne (Dennis Hopper) uses a nickel plated Heckler & Koch SP89 made to look like an MP5K by adding the MP5K foregrip and converting it to full-auto. It can be noted as an SP89 instead of an MP5K due to the lack of a paddle magazine release behind the magazine and lack of a push-pin lower receiver. According to the movie armorers, the filmmakers paid in advance for the armorers to send out the gun to be nickel plated and they also paid the full cost for the gun to be converted BACK to original configuration. So the specific weapon used in the movie, no longer looks like this.
That's odd...what was LMO selling about 5 years ago, then? They said it was the gun from this movie; had it been re-converted and they sold it? Also, who were the armorers on this movie?
Yeah, notice that the armorers aren't even listed? We don't get no respect. The Craft services girl gets a credit and we don't. I will check with Syd when I get a chance. During the filming of this movie I saw the Nickel plated SP89 (mocked up to be an MP5K, primarily because they didn't want to screw up a REAL MP5K and also the SP89 has a full metal lower receiver and since you can't nickel plate the plastic lower trigger assembly of the real MP5K, the SP89 was the gun to be 'customized'). I asked Syd directly what this nickel plated "fake MP5K" was all about and he said that Jan De Bont really wanted the gun to be nickel plated and that 20th Century fox was willing to pay for the cost of nickel plating the guns and then the full cost of reconverting them back to original condition as well as a 'special handling fee' and the standard armorer and weapons rentals fees. I didn't see the gun after that, so it was assumed that the gun was converted back being that FOX paid for it. If Stembridge didn't reconvert it, then they still had the right to charge 20th Century Fox for the cost, since they would have it financially covered if they had to, in the future. MoviePropMaster2008 23:42, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
