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Talk:Nagant Revolver
Other variants
- Greg-Z 05:21, 15 January 2012 (CST)
Airwolf, Ep.1
There was a Nagant M1895 in the first episode of Airwolf. The character Moffit, the one that designed and made off with the helicopter had one once he arrived in Libya. There were a couple of good close ups, so there is no mistaking what it was.
Consoldiation?
Is there any way we could retitle and reformat this page to include all Nagant revolvers? It seems a waste of space to make pages for every variation when most are only going to appear in one or two films at best. - Nyles
Why did they go through all that trouble to make a gas seal mechanism?
From what I've read, the Nagant M1895's unique gas sealing mechanism necessitated a fixed cylinder, so it was as cumbersome to load as the famous Single Action Army. This might not be seen as a major disadvantage to users accustomed to this loading method, but top-break revolvers have been around since at least the latter half of the 19th century (look at the Smith & Wesson Schofield), with swing-out cylinders following afterwards. The massive double-action trigger pull is mentioned on the page for this weapon, so it was clearly not very user-friendly except for those who were used to revolvers like the Single Action Army (which also had a fixed cylinder, could only be unloaded/reloaded one round at a time, and required cocking the hammer after every shot, a practice which would largely negate the heavy trigger pull of the Nagant M1895). The gas seal is a neat trick to allow usage of a suppressor and to make the gun more ballistically efficient, except suppressors were first developed in the early 20th century in America, and the Nagant Revolver's proprietary ammunition isn't very powerful either, so the ballistic gain you get from the gas seal isn't going to make it that much better.
If I didn't know better, I'd think that the Nagant M1895 was an over-specialized brainchild of a dictator (except that 1895 was still in the era of Tsarist Russia, more than 2 decades before Stalin and the Russian Revolution) or a wrench-head with too much time on his hands. Its characteristics might have made more sense to me if it was designed from the ground-up as a clandestine weapon that would allow for fairly rapid, suppressed, shots without the need for working a slide lock or bolt action (the suppressed version also benefits from its fairly anemic cartridge--less blast and flash in the first place means a more effective suppressor), but such a design goal would have been anachronistic for 1895. Can anyone shed some light on this? Did the Tsar or some other sufficiently powerful Russian authority figure at the time say to a wrench-head "We have too many important people burning or losing their fingers due to the cylinder gap on our service revolvers--find a way to eliminate that!"? Could the gas seal mechanism originally have been intended as a safety feature? --Mazryonh (talk) 20:59, 16 December 2012 (EST)