Talk:FN Five-seveN

hello, (my first post ever here)

can someone edit the page itself so it is referred to as: "FN Five-seveN" (I don't know how to do this, I came across this issue when trying to search for this firearm but struck me a strange that there was no entry for it, then I realised the description is incorrect in the database)

that, I have seen, is the official designation by Fabrique Nationale de Herstal (and FNH USA): http://www.fnhusa.com/le/products/firearms/model.asp?fid=FNF003&gid=FNG001&mid=FNM0004 http://www.fnhusa.com/le/products/firearms/family.asp?fid=FNF003&gid=FNG001&cid=FNC01

also, should I edit all other references of "FN Fiveseven" to "FN Five-seveN®", adhereing to FNH's registered trademark usage,

thanks(!!)

The name change is done. I don't know if the trademark thing is really necessary, though. Spartan198 02:44, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Stopping Power of this pistol?

First Person Shooter games I've played featuring PDWs often have them possess a low damage-per-bullet firing ratio. This, of course, is usually made up with a high firing rate for the PDWs, but both the Five-SeveN and HK's "Ultimate Combat Pistol" are semiautomatic. I've heard criticism about how PDW rounds with their low diameter supposedly have low stopping power (especially in semiautomatic pistol applications), but I'm not sure just how close to reality it is.

I can't help but wonder if FN saved the medical data from the Fort Hood massacre to determine just how much stopping power the Five-SeveN actually has on unwilling human subjects. After all, I'm sure the autopsies (for those who died) and the trama reports (for those who survived) are quite detailed with respect to which ammunition was used, how the victims were hit and why they died or survived. Could be quite interesting for someone looking to "improve" the lethality of the ammunition and "reduce the failure rate." While "live" weapons testing on live human beings (much like how feudal Japanese swordsmiths often handed their creations to skilled swordsmen to chop cadavers or execute condemned criminals all in the name of weapons testing) is clearly unethical and legally banned today, I am still driven to wonder if such study methods would be more accurate than testing on ballistic gelatin, cadavers, etc.

I also hear that the HK UCP was cancelled, though I can't find out the exact reasons why. Pff, there is no "ultimate weapon" in a class for all situations, and to claim otherwise is arrogance at best and false advertising at worst. Maybe it would have succeeded if it was a machine pistol, could take the MP7's 40-round magazines, and called the MP7 UCP (which in this case would stand for "UltraComPact").

In any case, I'd like this cleared up on whether this popular perception of PDW rounds having low per-bullet-stopping power ratios is accurate or not. --Mazryonh 04:33, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

First rule in terminal ballistics is Shot placement. that is the most important aspect of killing anything with bullets. second is the size and design of those bullets. With any given bullet design the size and weight of the bullet is some indication of how much damage it will do. The issue with PDW rounds is that they take an assault Rifle round and put it into pistol sized pacage. this means that the penatration is better than a normal handgun round but the damage is not that much better. There is a reason why such weapons as 5.56mm Entryguns are so popular.Rockwolf66 04:40, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

The Hit List (2011)

Just a heads up: the Five-seveN is used extensively by the villain in The Hit List (2011), and there is even a scene where detectives have a conversation about the gun. I noticed the movie doesn't have its own article yet, but I added it to the films list in this article. MDM282 23:21, 22 May 2011 (CDT)