Talk:Battle: Los Angeles

aliens

I wounder if the aliens are going to be easy to kill as us humans with a few bullets, or talk an entire magazine from am M4 to kill.

Probably like Independence Day where they will be some what easy to kill like us...but have supior body armor or way better technolgy.--Spades of Columbia 19:20, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Is this photo from their website? The site doesn't want to put unauthorized BTS photos (see the discussion on the Transformers 3 page. --Ben41 20:34, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

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M1A2 Abrams on set in Louisiana.

Laser Modules on M4s

By the shape, they appear to be AN/PEQ-16As. I do believe this would qualify as the film debut of the device. Spartan198 14:57, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

I thought it was the AN/PEQ-15? Still, I do believe this is the first film appearance of that system. Orca1 9904 23:43, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Upon second look, you're right. It is a 15, not a 16A. With that revelation, this would then be the second film appearance of it. The M4s used by the security team in Resident Evil: Afterlife had PEQ-15s on them. Spartan198 09:22, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

FN M16?

I know FN actually makes the M16 as well, but how can you be certain the guns in the movie are FN? Excalibur01 05:36, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Colt and FN share the US military's M16A4 contract (I don't think they're buying M16A2s anymore). But where does it say the M16s in this film are FNs? I don't see it mentioned anywhere. Spartan198 08:00, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

I changed it to just plainly M16A2 until whoever stated previously can prove it Excalibur01 17:03, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Interesting concept behind this movie...

I know that the whole alien invasion genre of film has been done to the death so many times over to the point where most audiences will just scoff at films like this just like they scoffed at Independence Day or, but I gotta admit, this film has an interesting concept to it's backstory.

I don't know if anyone has ever read about this, but on the night of Feburary 24-25, 1942, there was a "supposed" air raid against the city of Los Angeles where some unidentified aircraft appeared in the skies over Los Angeles, and since several other raids by Japanese aircraft and bombardments by Japanese submarines had been taking place all along the West Coast of the United States and even one attack on the coast of Vancouver, Canada had been happening throughout the beginning of 1942 (fresh after the attack on Pearl Harbor), this supposed "raid" on Los Angeles caused MASS hysteria and panic that an enemy invasion would be next after all these raids. So therefore the skies were lit up that night with anti-aircraft fire which damaged several buildings (since they fired around 1,400 shells), and caused 3 people to get killed by the anti-aircraft fire while 3 others died from the massive stress of the whole situation. However, it was revealed in the U.S. Government's "official" after-action report that there was NOTHING in the skies over Los Angeles except for a weather balloon and flares fired off from training aircraft, and that the reason why all the panic happened was because of "war nerves" causing people to mistake them for enemy aircraft and think that a raid was happeneing.

But some UFO theorists believe that the "unknown aircraft" in the skies over Los Angeles that night were alien craft, and that the government was covering it up.

So from what I have gathered, the plot behind this movie is the idea that when the Great Los Angeles Air Raid of 1942 happened, those REALLY were alien aircraft in the skies. And now, 69 years later in the movie's timeline (If it's supposed to take place in the year 2011), the aliens have returned to not only begin their invasion of Los Angeles, but to invade the rest of the world as well.

^Sounds like Harry Turtleodve's Worldwar series BeardedHoplite 14:31, 16 March 2011 (CDT)

Interesting backstory concept for this movie? I like to think so. --ThatoneguyJosh 13:24, 8 March 2011 (MSK)

It seems to be just a modernized Independence Day plot. Aliens come to invade Earth to get at our resources or something and wants to wipe us out and we fight back. Excalibur01 19:11, 8 March 2011 (MSK)

I guess this movie could be considered a more "modernized" version of Independence Day (And I'll be the critics will be comparing this film to Independence Day on it's official release), but at the same time, it takes a real life event that happened 69 years ago, and makes it into a more creative story where the event that took place really WAS the cause of aliens, and now they have returned to invade earth, with the city of Los Angeles being the steppingstone battleground to their campaign. Whereas with Independence Day, it only made passing mentions of past alien spacecraft sightings throughout history before the main invasion begins, but they never really dove into greater detail behind the reasons why in that film. And besides, this movie looks really interesting since (from what I have seen in the trailers) the aliens apparently will not always be in massive spaceships blasting the shit out of buildings, or using sneaky mind control tactics to assimilate humans, they will actually be on the ground, with weapons of their own, engaging in modern combat scenarios with a human army, and that is something (at least to my knowledge, but I could be wrong) that hasn't been (if ever) done in an alien invasion film. --ThatoneguyJosh 08:54, 9 March 2011 (MSK)

Weapons + thoughts

M9/Beretta 92 used in end battle by Aaron Eckart's character and someone else

M240 may have been on the LAV, too dark to see it clearly.

M2 on the Humvee

Unidentified mortar in the background early on, probably 81mm.

Round frag grenades (M67? M61?)

Smoke grenades (M18?)

I personaly thought that the movie was exhalent, good tactics on both sides. Dont belive Roger Ebert's idioitic review. Seriously, go see the movie.--Mandolin 17:16, 12 March 2011 (MSK)

Well, the problem is that alot of people (being the gullible sheep that some people are) will listen to what the professional movie critics will say about movies like this, and just flat out dismiss it like they do (Even though there are some exceptions like when all the crazed fans of The Dark Knight sent death threats to the professional critics for giving that film anything less than 5 stars or A+ back in 2008... ridiculous huh?). And of course there is an even bigger majority of people who refuse to throw reality out the window these days and would rather nit-pick movies like this one to death for being "unrealistic" or whatever other bullshit arguments they bring up (Especially with movies like Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull for it's "unrealistic" refrigerator nuke scene, God... the arguments on that scene were so fucking ridiculous, even more ridiculous than the "Han Solo shot first!" argument). But really, I saw Battle: LA for myself, and I agree, it is a great alien invasion movie, and it also has done something that has never been seen in a major-budget blockbuster alien invasion film from years gone by (at least to my knowledge), and besides, pretty much ALL the actors in this film actually went through boot camp training so that way they look picture-perfect playing the U.S. Marine characters that they portray in the film. So rather than people blindly agreeing with what the professional critics are saying, I say go see this film for yourself and judge it for yourself. Maybe moviegoers might like this movie, and maybe they might not, but it's still a damn good film nevertheless. --ThatoneguyJosh 04:15, 15 March 2011 (CDT)

Anyone see what the corpsman's sidearm was? He never draw the weapon and it's kind of dark to see when I saw the weapon in the holster. I think it might be a SIG, which would make sense since Navy does issue M11/P228s. Can't be sure though.--Wildcards 15:36, 13 March 2011 (MSK)

I just got back from seeing the film, and I REALLY want to say it's an MEU SOC. Hopefully somebody can clarify this for me. Also, was it me, or were the M16A4s seeming like they were going full auto? :P -Kangabox

I paid special attention to the gear details of this movie when I saw it a few hours ago, and I did notice a few moments when the M16s fired on fully automatic (when Hectair's father used one for example) but through most of the film I noted the soldiers were useing their weapons on semi-automatic, just as they damn should be, but every other movie has ignored this to my knowledge. So either this was simply a little hollywood hickup in the movie or its assumed that M16A5s are being used (S-S-B-A M16s proposed by some firearms company that escapes my mind right now) by the USMC by the time the invasion happens. On a very possitive note I saw that the marines were all wearing MICH helmets rather than PSGAT (marines have a different name for it) ones and the aformentioned laser designators as well as uniforms (patterns, gloves, body armour etc.) makes me think they had military reference on sight for the making of, because this movie was totally a PR thing for the USMC like transformers or stargate was for the airforce. Only three things that I actually didn't like were: - the AT4 having a lock on tone (damn you call of duty!). - the laser designator having a visable beam and them not simply useing the designators on their rifles. - and finally; why didn't the aliens just drop a small nuclear weapon on every major military base from orbit and make us helpless as an opening strike? Because then there wouldn't be a movie, so I can ignore that one haha. Anon has spoken, this movie is epic.

I think the auto firing M16 could be the sound crew's fault too, just like how they added the lock on tone. I watched the movie again, Santos was actually aiming the AT4 at the drone's flight path, the the rocket travelled in a straight line rather than chasing after the drone like they did in the Stargate series. Also, PEQ lasers on the rifles cannot be use to paint target for missiles/LGBs, it can only illuminate the target for pilots and the pilots would need to target the weapons themselves. Most FACs and JTACs do use big ass laser designators like the ones in the movie (usually mounted on tripod).--Wildcards 03:15, 20 March 2011 (CDT)

Speaking of sound crews, don't forget about that awkward sound the SAW made when we first saw it being fired. Sounded more like stock gunfire sounds coming from an M60. Also from a more technical standpoint, I saw esentially all the Marines wearing MARPATs, but if we're assuming that this film takes place in the near future, shouldn't we see at least a few of the grunts wearing the newer FROG suits? Just a thought. -Kangabox