Talk:Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex 2nd Gig

Well, shit. I screwed up the article title and then made a note about spelling it right. That's embarrasingly silly of me.

Good job

Looking good so far Excalibur01 14:20, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

American troops in Mexico conflict

I could be mistaken as I haven't seen this episode in a while, but weren't the American soldiers in this episode American Empire troops as opposed to US? As someone familiar with the series would presumably know, the United States after WW3 was fractured into three separate countries and the United States as it existed in 2020 (consisting of Washington state, Arizona, Utah, Montana, North & South Dakota, Minnesota, Iowa, and Wisconsin) wasn't in any shape, economically or militarily, to wage war beyond its borders. Spartan198 18:17, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Well if I remember something, Batou was with the "American" troops in Latin America. I'd need to rewatch the episode again, but they also mentioned he was with the SEAL. Excalibur01 02:39, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

He has a Japanese flag on his BDU shirt in this episode, so he's clearly with the Japanese contingent in Mexico. He did mention being "with the Rangers" in a couple other episodes, but I don't think he was referring to the American ones. In a later episode, he revealed himself to members of a military/paramilitary unit with the same prosthetic eyes as him saying "I'm one of you", but this was a J-SDF Special Ops unit, not an American one. At any rate, I'm watching this episode as we speak, so I can at least confirm whether these American troops are US, AE, or RAA. Spartan198 14:34, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

They were AE troops. On a side note, it bugged me how the Americans in that episode were portrayed as reckless and prone to panicking at the slightest little thing. Spartan198 14:49, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

That's pretty much the Japanese stereotype on Americans before World War II, it's interesting to see that it's somehow resurfaced (in the anime world at least), and it's not uncommon for anime to portray Japanese characters superior to characters from other countries.--Wildcards 20:20, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Again, the AMR in this season looks like an L39, not an NTW-20.

It's funny when Saito says "I once was up against a world class sniper in a duel",And the fact that he had a Blaser 93 Tactical Sniper rifle and The Major had an Walther WA2000 with an extended clip and a type of Red dot or holographic sight. I'm very interested in that fact that everyone else in the UN Special forces squad used full automatics and Kusanagi happen to choose a Semi automatic. Tac-Shooter 17:30, 6 August 2010

Well that's because the Major is badass. And come on Tac-shooter. It's MAG, not CLIP. Magazine are the boxes that stores the bullets to feed into the gun to be fired. Clips are strips of metal that feds the magazine and helps load faster. Excalibur01 14:41, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

I thought Major has an assault rifle, but switched to the Walther WA2000 when realizing they were in a sniper dual. And yes America is now three separate country. the American Empire, the United States of America, and the Russo-American Alliance

link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_of_Ghost_in_the_Shell

A running plot point in several of Masamune Shirow's works is that the United States breaks up into several countries, its slightly different in each version. In the Ghost in the Shell storyline, they don't explain exactly how this happened, but the USA broke up into "The American Empire" (basically the Red States of the South), "The Russo-American Alliance" (basically the Blue States of the northeast and west coast), and the rump state "United States of America" (a handful of mountain and prairie states). Keep in mind that a nuclear World War III happened, followed by a non-nuclear World War IV, and their society has been rebuilding for a while; Japan is one of the few really stable countries anymore, with many former states having balkanized into smaller factions. "The American Empire" faction is really aggressive -- apparently it cannot fight the Russo-American Alliance because this would trigger a new global war, so it vents its frustration by beating up on Latin America a lot. While not the main antagonists of the series, they're presented as fairly slimy and bad guys often try to defect to them. Of course its not the "real" United States, so GITS gets to get away with portraying them so negatively. Keep in mind that this is social fiction from a Japanese standpoint where "hahah in 30 years the US will be having internal problems like Japan did in the 1960's". --V 22:49, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

I've been reading some of the Japanese background material, and it stated that the United States was actually only spit in two, American Empire and the Russo-American Alliance. In 2nd Gig, the Prime Minister also only mentioned that Japan needs to have stable relationship with both Americas, the existence of a country still named "United States" was never mentioned in the series. Maybe the US was spit into three countries in Appleseed, but that doesn't means its the case in GITS universe.--Wildcards 17:11, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Derringer

There was something about the derringer i have seen off this website It's Called the Bond Arms double barrel pistol. it fires .410 shells & .45 long colt If anyone can put it here that would be cool

That's called a Bond Arms Snake Slayer, and the Derringer in 2nd GIG is not a Bond Arms. The Bond Arms derringer series has a large switch to open the action located on the left side just behind the lower barrel, a feature not present here. Also, sign your posts.--PistolJunkie 19:45, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Revamp

I will be revising this article over the next several days just like the SAC page.

• Progress: Episodes 26 / 26

--PistolJunkie 05:21, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

THE PAGE IS FINISHED!--PistolJunkie 05:11, 20 October 2010 (UTC)