Talk:Red Dead Redemption

Holy patron saint of awesome there's a fucking C96 in the game. I dont care about historical innacuracies, Im glad they finally put this gun in another game. Plus I've been wanting to see it in another western setting since Joe Kidd. Plus I can get all...Lawrence of arabia-y...anyone agree?--ConditionNone 08:29, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Its not inaccurate, the game takes place in 1908.

And now I know. AND KNOWING IS HALF THE BATTLE!--ConditionNone 08:29, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Well played sir.

Il Grande Silenzio (aka The Great Silence) also features C96 used by the main character in deadly effect. Brilliant movie, you should see it.--AlkoTanko 12:53, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Will do. Now, if somebody would just make a game where I could use a webley other than Bioshock/Darksector. And a mauser. AT THE SAME TIME WOAH!!!--ConditionNone 18:54, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

This page's format

Nice work so far. I look forward to seeing the page's creators fix the minor page layout errors. i.e. don't put a LINK to the gun page. Write an original paragraph about who uses the gun and how it appears in the game and hyperlink the gun NAME to the gun page. Remember to check the rules & standards, the titles in the sections are never hyperlinked, only the name of the gun in the written section describing the usage in the game. Also every image should have THUMB in the wiki line with a size designator and the IMFDB page standard descriptors in the gun image and the screenshot. Any insightful summaries about the game and it's back story would also be nice. good job. MoviePropMaster2008 06:24, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

I wasn't planning on adding details about each weapon until after the game is released, and more info is available, also, this is my first try at editing a wiki. (Wematanye)

How come there's no 1887 shotguns. They'd make more sense than an Auto-5 or a pump-action. Browing designed the lever-action specifically for frontiersmen. (Hughjefender)

Mannlicher M95 or Carcano 38?

The rifle which is currently called the "Mannlicher 1895" seems to be rather a Carcano 38 which can be seen at the front barrel band. Lookt it up on surplusrifle or google. The Austrian Mannlicher 95 has a different band. Furthermore, but I am not 100% sure about this, the Austrians did not shorten the M95s before WWI. So no matter which rifle it is it is anachronistic in all cases, but it really looks like a Carcano 38. Greetings from Franconia. Paul_Baeumer

Hi it's me again. I just saw that the rifle was positively identified as a Carcano by a recently added screenshot, showing the characteristic magazine which distinguishes the Italian Mannlicher Carcano from the Austrian Steyr Mannlicher M95. Thus the Mannlicher 95 could be removed from the "Needs positive Identification" section. Greetings from Franconia. Paul_Baeumer 19 April 2010

Colt M1911

I was on the Red Dead Redemption wiki the other day and the good ole 1911 was listed as a usable weapon-S&Wshooter 05:20, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Well the game is set in 1911 (From what I've been told) so could it possible? Hoot471 09:24, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

The game is actually set in 1908 from what I've heard. Chris_Hun7er 17:56, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

The red dead wiki has a number of weapons that are unconfirmed. They are either just hopeful or mistaken, confusing the Bordchart for a Luger and the Colt 1903/1908 for a 1911

I have also heard it being set in 1911 BeardedHoplite 02:45, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Where did you hear that? all official statements I have heard say 1908.

I couldn't specifically tell you, but I believe it was from a few gaming sites (Games Radar, IGN, Game Informer etc.) BeardedHoplite 17:28, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

I had heard the game took place in 1908, which wouldn't make the 1911 appropriate...however who's to say all of the games events take place in the year 1908...esspecially since they talk about the mexican revolution being apart of the game which happened in 1911

Well it would make the 1911 very inappropriate actually. And the game doesn't actually contain the revolution proper, but rather the events leading up to the revolution. That being said I highly doubt the 1911 would be in the same game when the 1903/1908 is already confirmed. Mercer 04:36, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

I'se reading the Playstation Store description of the game and it says that the game takes place in 1911.--74.177.189.181 16:06, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Maybe it goes from 1908 to 1911? BeardedHoplite 02:00, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Well we'll all find out tomorrow children. Mercer 04:30, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

It's official, no 1911, no luger, no colt walker, no colt navy, no springfield 1903, no winchester 1887, or anything else people have claimed to see in the game or heard from someone. All small arms have already been identified. Mercer 19:20, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Just for reference, the games does take place in 1911, it's on the back of the box BeardedHoplite 00:57, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

But the map in the actual game says 1910 on it.

Yeah, but that could just mean you have a year old map.--74.177.136.12 20:59, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Merged Carcano Rifle

Just a heads up, I moved the image in "Carcano Rifle Scoped" to "Carcano Rifle" and deleted the "Carcano Rifle Scoped" section. Chris_Hun7er 5:50, 10 May 2010

Krag/body

I know this doesn't really have anything to do with the actual rifle, but does the second Krag-Jorgensen screen shot show a naked person hanging from the ceiling?--ColonelTomb 00:01, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

It certainly does. And according to some early reviews there is much worse to be found in the game. Mercer 23:31, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Do you mean in terms of brutality or of nudity?--ColonelTomb 00:01, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Both from the sound of itMercer 00:49, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Hurrah for gratuitous violence!-S&Wshooter 02:17, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Colt New Service/Colt New Army

has it been positively identified yet?

Changed the protection level on this page

Now you must log in as a user to edit. It keeps all the anonymous kids from undoing all your hard work :) MPM2008 (a mod)

Um glock?

why is there a pic of an animated glock on page?

Anonymous User 72.82.219.161 put it on the page, perhaps not realizing that Example.jpg linked to a different image. ANYWAY, that's one reason why I BLOCKED anonymous users from editing this page. Dumb stuff like that. It has been fixed. MoviePropMaster2008 22:48, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Thoughts?

So Now that RDR has hit the streets, what do you guys think of it? I bought it thinking it would be fun, but nothing more than GTA IV in the West. Boy was I ever wrong! This has so much more to offer, and is one of the best games to come out in recent years. The combat is exciting and fun, the graphics are stunning, the story is awesome, and the sound effects are pure western! Just picking up an old Krag or SAA and capping some Mexican rebels or gang members if a hoot. The Multiplayer will keep you playing after the epic story is completed, and I think this is a game everybody should pick up. Besides minor glitches, it's perfect, 10 out of 10!M14fanboy

The funny part is that the glitches actually added to the fun (for me at least). Seeing flying deer or riding an invisible horse is simply gold BeardedHoplite 22:52, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Maxim

According to rockstar social club (lists in-depth analysis of kills and such) its labeled as a Browning, which is quite possible considering that a water cooled m1919 did exist, and it looked similar. 74.163.238.134 00:02, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Actually it's a Browning M1917, my bad. 74.163.238.134 22:26, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

anyone going to change it?184.32.172.173 17:42, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Red Dead Racism?

So the latest RDR ad on TV tells us that PS3 users get exclusive access to a special gang hideout known as Solomon's Folly and a special Walton's Gang outfit, and apparently just for owning a PS3. Now I'm not biased, I love both systems, but as a 360 owner I gotta say, racist much Rockstar? M14fanboy

I'm pretty sure you don't know what racism is.

Huh? Racism? Bigotry is a more generic term which means an irrational preference towards one group or side or ideology while marginalizing unfairly anything else. But from what I read of what M14fanboy wrote, "Racism" is not the correct term. Racism is bigotry based on Race or ethnicity. MoviePropMaster2008 05:06, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Incase nobody got that, twas but a joke guys. I understand racism and bigotry and such, and I was simply joking that Rockstar was being racist towards 360 users with the free stuff on PS3. Sorry if I may have come of as a bit of a dumbass with that guys, just a little humour. M14fanboy

Still used it wrong in that sentence. 74.163.238.134 22:35, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Actually, this game is racist. The general store clerk in Armadillo is really anti-Semitic

So was 97% of everyone else in 1911 BeardedHoplite 00:08, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

"Jews" are not a race, it is just a religion. 184.32.172.100 08:49, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but anti-semitic means anti-jew, as they can be called semites. M14fanboy

Not the point, it classifies as bigotry, not racism. Please learn proper use of english words. 74.175.101.2 13:08, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Actually "Jew" is classified as a race and a religion. Spades of Columbia

Never has jew been considered a race, only a religion.184.32.172.173 17:41, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Actually Jew is an Ethno-religion, meanning that it is both an ethnicity and a religion; look it up on Wikipedia.--ColonelTomb 15:19, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

"argueing on the internet is like running in the special olypics, even if you win you're still a retard"99.142.11.219 01:10, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

This website is dedicated to firearms only, not discussions about racism that has nothing to do with the guns in this game. --FIVETWOSEVEN 01:14, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

That's right. We're an equal opportunity website to educate the retards of the world. Excalibur01 02:50, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Quigley

Who is John Quigley? Do you perhaps mean Matthew Quigley from Quigley Down Under or is that a different person? humanzie3

Probably the name Quigley is a small cameo. --FIVETWOSEVEN 01:18, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Mauser C96

The Mauser C96 in-game is NOT fully automatic, just semi (as the "Savvy merchant caption" picture already states). Please change that. --85.3.141.99 17:28, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

In single player it's fully automatic. 184.32.172.173 17:41, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

In Multiplayer it is still full-auto, its just REALLY slow BeardedHoplite 03:03, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Golden Guns

If any of youse guys have golden guns, screencap them and upload them. I only have the Borchart and the New Service. I'll get the borchart up later today BeardedHoplite 14:19, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

High Power Pistol

Just read on another site. They claim that the high power is actually the FN 1903 NOT the Colt 1903. Kinda makes sense figure I'll leave it up to someone else to make sure.

Its definatly the FN 1903, Look at the slide lenght. I'm no good at this so can someone else please change it for me? --FIVETWOSEVEN 01:45, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

LeMat loading

Hold up, if the LeMat is not a break-top revolver, how does it load?

It's a percussion revolver, so it loads by packing the front of the cylinders. Look at the frame by frame shots of a LeMat being loaded in this film: The Quick and the Dead. - Gunmaster45

There were actually pinfire and centerfire versions that loaded via gate like a Colt SAA. There's a picture of the centerfire version uploaded on this site. - Nyles