Talk:Battlestar Galactica (2004)

Incorrect image caption

Under Seburo MN-23, the last image is captioned "Leobin [sic] being left behind on the Ragnar station by Galactica security". The figure in this image is not Leoben, it is Aaron Doral (Number 5)^{Number 5 on Battlestar wiki}. It would change it myself, but I don't have an account. Great wiki by the way! Thanks. --86.132.238.130 14:39, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

I guess it can be changed, but unlike most of the other cylons, except for caparca 6, Leobin is the name used for the guy anyway. Excalibur01

I corrected the caption and added the cylon numbers. --Funkychinaman 02:46, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Seburo MN-23

I was looking through some stuff on Wikipedia the other day and I stumbled across an article about the "Magpul PDR". When I looked at the article I was oddly surprised to see that the concept design for the weapon looks close to this fictional rifle's design.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Magpul_personal_defense_rifle_line_art.jpg --Charon68 15:50, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Seburo MN-23 looks like a a SMG from Borderlands

I wonder why the MN-23 or the Raisen wasn't used later in the series as a non firing prop to show more futuristic weapons since they showed P90s but never fired them Excalibur01

gun on a ship

It would not be a little dangerous to shoot firearms in a well-armored Battlestar? Couldn't bullets rebound and wound shooters? And, if they never saw Earth, why they carry some apparently Earth well-known guns like Kalašnikovs and Makarovs?

That's one thing that bothered me too, especially on New Caprica. We're talking about a previously uninhabited planet, and yet the guerrillas had plentiful assault rifles, submachine guns, etc. It'd be one thing if they were picking them off the enemy, but the skinjobs were lightly armed, with the centurions carrying anything heavier. The only explanation I can think of is that the arms came from one of the other vessels that landed, like the Prometheus (the black market ship.) --funkychinaman 17:13, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Actually you get the impression that the weapons were all cached in and around the settlement "just in case". There are several mentions in the episodes on New Caprica of how things were planned out in case things went to hell. Specifically the Raptor which appears to listen for any broadcasts from the surface. --Charon68 21:07, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

The Raptor was only on station after the Cylons arrived though. And while it would make sense to hide some weapons caches in case the worst happens, we're talking about a group of people who are short on medical supplies and basically living in a glorified refugee camp, with practically no military or police force available to keep order. (There were few marines to start with, and I never saw any LEOs other than the president's bodyguards.) Giving those people access to a cache of automatic weapons seems to be a ticket to anarchy. --funkychinaman 23:33, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

That's what I am saying. The Raptor was only put on station after the Cylons arrived according to a prearranged plan between Adama and Tigh not on the random chance that the humans on New Caprica would be broadcasting some sort of SOS (look at this link http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Occupation) under "Act I" the 11th point I believe mentions that. It would go without saying then that the weapons were known only to a select few and, by the same point, trained or semi-trained personnel (most of the shooters on the ground were either former Galactica, Pegasus or Anders' people). --Charon68 00:13, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Right, I forgot. But they had to figure out that the Cylons would have lists of former military personnel and keep close tabs on them if not neutralize them outright, and Anders couldn't have brought that many people back from Caprica. And if they had a plan, you'd think they wouldn't have let the military readiness on both ships fall so far behind. If the arms caches were placed there before the Cylons came however, it's strange that most of them are non-military weapons, like Soviet-bloc weapons. --funkychinaman 01:01, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Well they never actually named any of the firearms used in the series. They just used them as props. It would be cost too much for "laser" gun special effects, and it would also cost a lot to invent prop guns or shells around existing guns anyway. But I've always wondered about the Cx4 and it is referred to as a "rifle". It fires a pistol round. It also seems that Galactica has a huge stockpile of guns and ammo. Excalibur01 03:09, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

The producers wanted to use "real world" technology, so they used kinetic weapons instead of lasers like in the original. That's why the Cylons used nukes to destroy the colonies, and not some death ray, or whatever the hell they did in the original. (They weren't really clear.) They also never wanted to be really specific with technical details, so they wouldn't be constrained later on. (Thus, no BSG technical manual.) As for ammo, they were able to draw ammo and munitions from a remote armory in the mini-series, and later on, it was shown that the Galactica (and presumably the Pegasus) had ammo production facilities on board. --funkychinaman 03:17, 3 June 2010 (UTC)