Talk:Miami Vice (2006)

Why is a picture of the S&W Sigma listed under the S&W 99?

A S&W Sigma is not the S&W 99 and does not even appear in the movie.

The OA-93

The picture on the left is an OA93 while the picture on the right is someone who is most likely using a K23. The biggest noticeable difference is that the K23 has a buffer tube on the end, in the OA93, the charging handle and recoil buffer are both integrated into a flat top upper receiver eliminating the need for a buttstock or a buffer tube

It's not a K23; otherwise, it would have a regular triangular AR front sight, which it clearly doesn't in this movie. If you read our OA-93 page, MoviePropMaster explains that many of the OA-93s seen in Hollywood films have had buffer tubes installed by the armorers because it's necessary in order to make them function reliably with blanks. -MT2008 18:30, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

From what I can see, it is a K23, yes the OA-93 has been modified by armorers so that they have the ability to fire blanks, but this is not one of those conversions. First, the gas return system uses a standard gas tube connected by a low profile gas block, which is why there is no standard front sight post. On a OA-93 there should be a return tube located above the handguard leading back to the upper receiver. Second, the charging handle on a regular OA-93 is a side charging handle raised above the upper receiver, the charging handle on this weapon is a standard charging handle located within the upper receiver. I'm not new to AR-15s, try consulting with others who may know more before dismissing other peoples opinions.

First of all, I don't like your tone. There is no need for such hostility, and furthermore, the evidence you cited originally to prove it's a K23 was vague enough that I felt compelled to point out something you might not have known. Second, every K23 I have seen - either the LEO full-auto carbine or the more recent civilian pistol versions - had a regular AR front sight post. The gun in this movie does not, so unless it was specially modified, I just don't see how it's a a K23. You are right that it does have a regular AR charging handle, which the OA-93 doesn't have. Third, looking closely, I realize I failed to notice that the receiver of the gun seems to have no forward assist or brass deflector - characteristic of both the OA-93 and K23. I now suspect it may be a Rocky Mountain Arms Patriot Pistol instead.

After watching the whole finale shoot out at least seven times in HD, and looking at as many pictures of the RMA patriot as i could. i am almost certain that it is a patriot that has been fitted with a collapsable stock, and a C - More red dot sight. what perplexed me was the raised rail on the upper reciever. i did not know too much about the patriot pistol. but if someone who knows more about the patriot wants to watch the shoot out, i think they will find that it is a patriot. and the the "ruger mini 14" does not look to be a shotgun, but a rifle based on the width of the mag.

Just to add come conjecture to this- I don't think what is listed as an OA-93 in the page is actually an OA-93. It has the raised top rail caracteristic of the OA-93, However is lacking the main element that makes an OA-93- the recoil spring mounted above the barrel. Also missing is the Charging handle unique to the OA-93, mounted above the receiver in-between the rail and receiver. As someone has mentioned above, I believe it is a Rocky mountain arms patriot pistol, fitted with a full stock tube and a carbine stock. And the c-more tactical sight ofc. I have some Hires screencaps from a Blu-ray of the movie and some pics of the Rocky patriot, if no-one minds me updating the article? Also, I belive that an OA-93 does actually appear in the movie, but in the hands of one of Tubbs and crockets team in the final shootout- the dude who gets shot in the leg while moving between cover.