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Talk:In Search for Captain Grant (V poiskakh kapitana Granta)

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McNabbs Carbine

I don't want to be too importunate but still I would like to continie the discussion. Let's compare:

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Serbian Mauser M1908 Carbine - 7x57mm or 7.92x57mm Mauser
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1895 Spanish Mauser Carbine - 7x57mm Mauser
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Serbian carbine has a groove on the stock and the pistol shaped buttstock while the Spanish model lacks both these features. The screen rifle looks more like Spanish carbine, as for me.

Next point is the position of rear sling swivel. It differs from both models. And the last is some kind of a pin in the stock, placed between the rear sight and the barrel band. No Spanish, nor Serbian carbine has such detail (though it's possible to be some item added during the repair to reinforce the stock). Greg-Z (talk) 14:59, 6 December 2016 (EST)

Robert Grant's Gun

Looking on this and this screenshots, I have a doubt about Remington Rolling Block. Doesn't it look more like a hammerless single barreled shotgun? Greg-Z (talk) 15:16, 6 December 2016 (EST)

Concur with it. Pyramid Silent (talk) 12:37, 10 December 2016 (EST)

Talkav's Rifle

Maybe Talkav's rifle is some hunting version of Krnka M1869 Rifle? Here is a closeup of Krnka breech - as for me, the first screenshot shows something very similar. Greg-Z (talk) 15:25, 6 December 2016 (EST)

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Russian M1869 Krnka Rifle - 15,24x40mmR
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May be. But this does not apply to other rifles (which seems to be something out of this category: [1]). -Slon95 (talk) 13:54, 8 December 2016 (EST)
The only differ for me, is the more longer barrel (maybe, it's just another model af Krnka, or, even, mock up). But, this rifle has a short barrel, and, is wery similar to standart Krnka. Pyramid Silent (talk) 12:32, 10 December 2016 (EST)
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Indian chief (Petar Slabakov) holds percussion rifle with breech-loading conversion.
I don't think, that's a Tabatière rifles, due it's muzzle shape is differ. After a searching, I found image of the Cossack variant of Krnka, that's seems very similar on the top on the to, view from another side. A little differs maybe result of bad conservation of the antique guns. Pyramid Silent (talk) 12:50, 13 December 2016 (EST)
Cossack and Dragoon Krnka has a shorter barrel that the infantry one. Krnka were also converted to shotguns, like Berdan rifles later (here is a sample of Krnka-based hunting shotgun), and such guns could have elongated barrels. Nearly everything is possible with these old guns, especially in Bulgaria where Krnka were in still in service in 1915. I plan to re-watch the movie, so maybe I could guess more later. Greg-Z (talk) 13:19, 13 December 2016 (EST)
I add image of Krnka converted shotgun with a long barrel (Thanks to Greg-Z). The screen rifle is seen very similar. Pyramid Silent (talk) 10:35, 14 December 2016 (EST)
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Krnka converted shotgun.

Paganel's rifle

Maybe, I'm wrong, but on this shot, the curved stock is seen. So, may be it's a Hawken Rifle?

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Jacques Paganel (Lembit Ulfsak) with his percussion rifle during the Ben Joyce's attack.
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Jacques Paganel (Lembit Ulfsak) with his percussion rifle.
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Hawken Rifle - .30 caliber. Somewhat similar to the one in movie.
Was Hoken popular in the other hemisphere? For me it's more like one of these European old Schuetzen-style muzzle loaders. And the "single-barrel shotgun" looks more like one of these later European single-shot hunting rifles, like the Martini system. --Slon95 (talk) 12:31, 24 February 2020 (EST)
Hunting percussion rifles, generally of same outlook with Hawken, were produced in Western Europe (England, Belgium, Germany etc.) and in Russia ("shompolka", "sibirka"). So it's very possibly a European/Russian produced gun... but everything is possible. --Greg-Z (talk) 12:47, 24 February 2020 (EST)