Talk:Hot Dogs, Horseshoes & Hand Grenades

Fabarm naming

I couldn't find any consistent naming conventions for the Fabarm series (complicated by it being an obsolete model). H&K, Fabarm (FABARM?), SDASS, etc. Any knowledge welcome.Temp89 (talk)

Regarding the "KWG1"

Hey, everybody. I think that I may have found it: [1]; and here's someone's 3D render of it: [2]. Sincerely, Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 22:06, 12 October 2016 (EDT)

Coming updates.

So, apparently there's a serious update in the works, both in terms of functionality and content. In the case of the latter, there are apparently some WW2-era guns coming up, judging by the recently added ammo types, including 7.92x57mm Mauser and .30-06 Springfield, which could be in a few different guns, as well as some that are pretty obvious in terms of purpose, namely: 7.63x25mm Mauser, 7.62x38mmR Nagant, 10.6x25mmR German Ordnance, and .30 Carbine. Also, given the addition of the 7.5x54mm French round, which the MAS-49/56 was rechambered in (would someone let me know what it was chambered in before, please?), a MAS-36 is possible. Thoughts? Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 10:56, 20 July 2017 (EDT)

Also, completely unrelated, but can anybody who's actually played the game and/or seen gameplay tell me if the S&W 327 is left-handed? I'd heard talk of a left-handed revolver over on their Reddit page, and I wasn't sure if this was the one, or if the screenshot we have is just mirrored. RSVP, ASAP. Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 15:59, 20 July 2017 (EDT)

It is. All the screens I took are un-mirrored.Temp89 (talk) 09:33, 25 July 2017 (EDT)

And, following an update, the C96 is now a thing, along with a VERY interesting take on the LAPD 2019 Blaster. Not to mention that there's apparently a crank-operated Gatling gun in Wurstworld, which follows the standard video game logic of "it can't run out of ammo if you never loaded it to begin with". I would add these right now, but it's 12:17 in the morning, and that means that I have memes to browse. See ya later, Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 00:18, 31 July 2017 (EDT)

Well, now that it's later, and I have had my daily hourly minute-ly (is that even a word) dose of fresh, crispy memes, I've added them to the page. Until we meet again, Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 20:45, 1 August 2017 (EDT)

Even later now, and I could use some help with this. Anybody know what this "QC9 PDW" is? I mean, I know that it's some sort of 9mm AR setup, but I'm not sure about the specific model. Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 19:17, 16 September 2017 (EDT)

Well, I've done some checking about, and what I've found so far is that it seems to have a VLTOR upper and a QC10 9mm lower, but other than that and some obvious stuff (i.e. the Magpul MOE stock), I'm not certain. I'm also not quite sure what we should call this, or what we should use as a reference image. Thoughts? Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 21:49, 1 October 2017 (EDT)

This is very close to the in-game configuration, I'd say just call it "custom 9mm AR15" since it's a nonstandard configuration that could potentially be built from real parts rather than a completely fictional weapon. Evil Tim (talk) 22:56, 6 October 2017 (EDT)

Heh, funny you should show that picture, since that was also the exact one that I looked at to find out the receiver's name. Well, the idea you have is nice, and I'll get to it right away, but what should we do about a reference image? Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 08:38, 7 October 2017 (EDT)

Beretta Cx4 listing

I've replaced it back into the SMG section and would ask for some input on this. Basically, I can't really support it being listed in any 'rifle' section, and have to suggest it be listed in with the SMGs. If this is based on barrel length, well, there are plenty of long barrel pistol-caliber subguns that are still submachine guns. Yes I know, this is semiauto only. Well, conversely to my previous, some subguns and machine pistols have semiauto only civilian variants that are legally considered 'pistols' but even so we still list them under SMGs, not handguns/pistols. Ditto for the few 'legal pistol' SBRs which are listed in rifle sections. So I don't think lack of selective fire is a real solid metric here, and I know we don't use legal specifications as any standard for classification. Given about 99% of all firearms we call 'carbines' on here are similar long-barrel SMGs or short-barreled rifles (and keep in mind by rifle, I mean it fires a rifle caliber cartridge, which this doesn't) I think sticking to that classification is simply rather arbitrary in this case, and trying to shoehorn it into a 'rifle' section on that basis even moreso. I know it's done elsewhere (and I'll even change those entries myself if it gets to that), then again I've seen them listed as SMGs, as have Calicos, even long-barrel versions. Bottom-line I just don't feel listing it in a Rifle category is appropriate. It fires a pistol cartridge akin to a SMG, there it should be listed. The gun isn't a rifle. Not in the proper sense, and not as we generally list on pages. StanTheMan (talk) 02:30, 26 August 2017 (EDT)

PS - Maybe have a 'carbines' section and put it there perhaps.. Granted doing that would, I feel, really compound a larger issue, but for here and now, perhaps that would work as an alternative. StanTheMan (talk) 02:35, 26 August 2017 (EDT)

Screenshots

Not that I'm confident that anybody really cares, but getting screenshots for this game has been rather... interesting. Obviously, I don't own the game, so my first thought was to get screenshots from the official devlogs on YouTube. However, the standard YT screenshotting site doesn't work on Macs, which led to the first failed upload (which wound up being a tiny little thumbnail, rather than the image that I actually wanted to screenshot). Upon further investigation, I found out that by hitting command+shift+4, one can create a click-and-drag screenshot box. Trouble is, if a YouTube video is paused, then the progress bar at the bottom is always present, and will show up in the shot, so instead, I have to select the point in the video I want to capture, go about 10-15 seconds before it, set up the box, and try to the best of my ability to get the timing right. This isn't exactly a quickly repeatable process, so certain things, such as a shot of the M1 ejecting its en-bloc clip, are going to be pretty much impossible to obtain (honestly, that one Luger shot was pure luck). Hope that this is okay with everybody. Anyways, now that you're done not reading my entirely pointless rambling, it's time for Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 22:30, 27 November 2017 (EST) to say goodbye.

I actually did a similar thing with some screenshots from the first COD WWII trailer. In other news, my buddy has a VR room at his home and I dropped $20 to play this game in his steam account lol. Frankly, VR wasn't as discombobulating as a lot of people claim it is.--AgentGumby (talk) 00:41, 28 November 2017 (EST)

Well, that's interesting to hear. Glad that I'm not the only one to have done this before. How're you liking the game? Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 17:09, 28 November 2017 (EST)

Regarding the Skorpion

So, the one in-game is called a Vz. 64, and chambered in .380 ACP. Now, obviously it's visually based on a Vz. 61, but the problem is that from all of my searching, I can't seem to find any conclusive statements as to whether the .380 version was the Vz. 64 or the Vz. 83, or perhaps both. I was going to put in an image of a Vz. 64 for comparison, but it doesn't seem that we have one. So, does anybody know what the .380 variant is actually called, and what I should do about a reference/comparison image? Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 15:06, 2 December 2017 (EST)

Fallout connection?

I haven't seen Blade Runner, but I was under the impression that the LAPD 2019 Blaster wasn't depicted as a revolver until the Fallout games. If this is the case (which it might not be), should the info be added?--H3nry8adger1982 (talk) 12:27, 11 December 2017 (EST)H3nry8adger1982

Well, in the official devlog that preceded the 2019's official introduction, Anton did mention its appearances in the Fallout games (more specifically, its New Vegas moniker of "That Gun"), but I'm not sure that this is the only reason that it's a revolver in-game. I think that could also have something to do with it both visually resembling one, and it being relatively common knowledge that it's partially made out of one. Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 17:18, 11 December 2017 (EST) P.S.: You haven't seen Blade Runner? Man, you're missing out.

M1911 Tactical

So, a new devlog was released recently, and it included, among other things, a new handgun. It's a modernized M1911A1 with a permanently attached RDS, and it looks like this:

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The extended magazines hold 11 rounds, and are interchangeable with standard 7-rounders.

Does anybody know exactly what type of M1911 this is? There are a lot of different models out there nowadays, and I'm not sure which one, if any, this is. Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 12:49, 23 December 2017 (EST)