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Talk:Heckler & Koch AG grenade launcher series
From what I can tell from looking around, if it doesn't have a folding front grip it's not an M320, it's either an XM320 (the prototypes don't look to have had it) or an AG36. Vangelis2 12:31, 13 March 2011 (MSK)
- AG-C and AG-NL variants also don't have the vert grip. Spartan198 11:39, 28 December 2011 (CST)
- AG-C can have the vert grip, but if it does it's mounted to a front rail rather than directly to the launcher. Newer AG36 also has it, mounted directly to the launcher (Wikipedia has a picture of a Latvian soldier with one like this on a G36) but the AG36 is attached to a special handguard so that's the giveaway there. Evil Tim 11:59, 28 December 2011 (CST)
Battlefield 3?
The M320 is in Battlefield 3. Why isn't it on this page? Jeddostotle7 9:07, 1 February 2012 (PST)
PEQ box vs radial sight on a carbine
Does the radial sight prevent mounting of PEQs on the top rail of an M4's handguard or is it offset enough to fit both? Spartan198 (talk) 09:12, 26 October 2013 (EDT)
HK169
How on earth can this be described as an "updated version" of the HK69? They're two totally different designs. You wouldn't describe the M32 as an "updated version" of the M79, would you? The M16 as an "updated version" of the M14? How about the M1 Abrams as an "updated version" of the M60 Patton? Or IMFDb as an "updated version" of Wikipedia? Spartan198 (talk) 02:35, 10 May 2014 (EDT)
- The placement is odd since we DO have a page for the HK69. I'm going to move it there. --Funkychinaman (talk) 03:06, 10 May 2014 (EDT)
- From H&K webpage of the HK169: "The HK169 was developed by Heckler & Koch as a state of the art successor of the well-known HK69 to meet all the requirements for modern warfare or law enforcement applications." Also, I put it here because it is basically a GLM with a folding stock instead of the collapsing one. It is closer to the GLM than the HK69. - bozitojugg3rn4ut (talk) 07:13, 10 May 2014 (EDT)
- "Successor of" and "updated version of" are different. Either way, I've moved it to the HK69 page. --Funkychinaman (talk) 10:03, 10 May 2014 (EDT)
- No, I think it should stay on this page since it is just a GLM in a dedicated standalone configuration. I only found it odd that it was referred to as an "updated" HK69 because the two systems have no mechanical relation whatsoever. Spartan198 (talk) 11:41, 10 May 2014 (EDT)
- The HK169 should definitely not be on the HK69, it is a successor in name only. Aside from a similar name and the round it fires, it bears absolutely not relation whatsoever to the original HK69, it is simply a variant of the AG-C fitted into a stock, so I think it should go on that page. On the topic, does anybody else think these two pages should be merged? They are essentially the same weapon and in other situations like this we would normally put them on the same page separated by sections. --commando552 (talk) 05:53, 11 May 2014 (EDT)
- I was just looking into it, and it appears that there is now the M320 A1 which is being used by the US Army which has the grip attached to a rail, making it exactly the same as the current model of the H&K GLM, so there is in fact no difference between the two. Also, just to throw something else in the mix, I don't think the picture of the M320 fitted to the HK416 is actually a true M320, but rather the AG416 which is a proprietary variant for the HK416 which attaches via a cross pin at the front of the handguard.
- The HK169 should definitely not be on the HK69, it is a successor in name only. Aside from a similar name and the round it fires, it bears absolutely not relation whatsoever to the original HK69, it is simply a variant of the AG-C fitted into a stock, so I think it should go on that page. On the topic, does anybody else think these two pages should be merged? They are essentially the same weapon and in other situations like this we would normally put them on the same page separated by sections. --commando552 (talk) 05:53, 11 May 2014 (EDT)
- No, I think it should stay on this page since it is just a GLM in a dedicated standalone configuration. I only found it odd that it was referred to as an "updated" HK69 because the two systems have no mechanical relation whatsoever. Spartan198 (talk) 11:41, 10 May 2014 (EDT)
- "Successor of" and "updated version of" are different. Either way, I've moved it to the HK69 page. --Funkychinaman (talk) 10:03, 10 May 2014 (EDT)
- From H&K webpage of the HK169: "The HK169 was developed by Heckler & Koch as a state of the art successor of the well-known HK69 to meet all the requirements for modern warfare or law enforcement applications." Also, I put it here because it is basically a GLM with a folding stock instead of the collapsing one. It is closer to the GLM than the HK69. - bozitojugg3rn4ut (talk) 07:13, 10 May 2014 (EDT)