Talk:SOCOM 4: US Navy SEALs

Identification

Contrary to what all the Internetz say, the IAR 556 isn't a 416. Looks nothing like it.

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg35/scaled.php?server=35&filename=iar556.jpg&res=medium

It's definitely a piston carbine of some sort, but I've yet to be able to place this one. Spartan198 11:35, 8 March 2012 (CST)

The CNC SOCOM is also a hard one to classify it looks like a M14 or possibly something else. Sorry for no picture, but it won't let me upload any.--Commandoninja137 19:42, 8 March 2012 (CST)

http://wikicheats.gametrailers.com/images/5/52/SOCOM_4_CNC_SOCOM_01.jpg

Definitely an M14, but I don't recognize the stock. Maybe someone better knowledgeable in M14 variants and accessories can enlighten us. Also, to whoever is doing this page, I can't get screenshots (don't know how to on PS3, short of using the camera on my phone), but I'll be happy to help out in any other capacity. Spartan198 19:21, 8 March 2012 (CST)

I'd say it's a JAE-100, stock looks right in that small shot. - Wantabe_Warrior38

Also, while it's on my mind, the "AK-102" in this game is actually the 7.62x39mm AK-103. Spartan198 19:28, 8 March 2012 (CST)

The F-Edje MSR is also another undefined snipe rifle.--Commandoninja137 19:42, 8 March 2012 (CST)

It's a Remington MSR. Thanks for reminding me about that one, I'll add it to the page now.

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Remington MSR with Harris bipod, Leupold Mark 4 scope, and AAC Titan suppressor - .338 Lapua Magnum

Spartan198 19:50, 8 March 2012 (CST)

There are also a few other snipers rifles and assault rifles. They are downloadable weapons, two are assault rifles from the Demolition, one appears to be a G3(HS-C3) and the other a SIG SG 552(552), and the other from the EVAC pack two sniper rifles look like a M82(M82A1A) and a AS50(AM50.

The M14 stock looks like it is a J. Allen Enterprises JAE-100 G3 stock. --SmithandWesson36 19:31, 9 March 2012 (CST)

The IAR556 appears to be the M27IAR, while the CNC SOCOM looks like the Springfield Armory M1A SOCOM II.

No, the IAR556 isn't an M27. The magwell is wrong for the 416 lower and lacks the bullet selector pictograms, the handguard is incorrect, and the barrel is too short. Spartan198 02:39, 27 July 2012 (CDT)

Finish the article.

Finish the article. I am happy to see screenshots from the game. Take a chronology of firearms according to their types. (Handguns, Rifle, Shotguns, ETC.)

Mos-590

I think the Mos-590 is actually a customized 870. image --bozitojugg3rn4ut 13:12, 11 March 2012 (CDT)

It appears to have the 590 mag tube cap, in my opinion. --SmithandWesson36 14:55, 11 March 2012 (CDT)

Right, but the trigger guard is not mossberg-style. - bozitojugg3rn4ut 16:17, 11 March 2012 (CDT)

DLC Weapons

There are 2 rifles one that looks like a G3 for the insurgents (single player picture)http://static.wix.com/media/ff536d_5f5518180bdb7e6e2c40429a57ffd80b.jpg_256 and the other looks like a SIG 552 http://www.gamershell.com/static/streaming/38482/38482_medium.jpg for the spec ops.--Commandoninja137 02:17, 27 July 2012 (CDT)

Unknown AR ID

I'm pretty sure the "Unidentified Piston Carbine" is a Patriot Ordnance Factory rifle of some sort, possibly the P-416-11 (which I think is actually a regular DI rather than piston gun):

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Patriot Ordnance Factory P-416-11 - 5.56x45mm

--commando552 20:13, 17 August 2012 (CDT)

That actually fits almost to the T. Spartan198 02:55, 18 August 2012 (CDT)

And further examination reveals to me that the "C9MM", currently identified on the main page as a Colt 9mm SMG, has the same lower receiver with drooped trigger guard and fore-end as the P-416-11, making it simply a 9mm version of the game's "IAR-556". Does a pistol caliber version of the P-416-11 with a unique name exist? Google turns up nothing. I know such a configuration could easily be rigged up by swapping out barrel and bolt carrier and adding a magazine adapter. Spartan198 11:06, 21 August 2012 (CDT)

Not aware of a pistol caliber version being directly made by POF, I would assume the devs made it up. From this image i would say that they have just re-purposed the same model, replacing the mag and whacking a suppressor on the front. --commando552 11:52, 21 August 2012 (CDT)

There are 9mm conversion kits for POF rifles:[1]. --SmithandWesson36 12:40, 21 August 2012 (CDT)

To be fair you can convert pretty much any AR-15 to 9mm, but seeing as the game model appears to just be the same as the P416-11 with the mag replaced and a suppressor added, my guess would be that it is not actually based on a real physical 9mm gun (that is what I meant about the devs making it up, not that the concept of it was made up). --commando552 12:57, 21 August 2012 (CDT)

So then should we classify both the IAR-556 and C9MM under one entry or just make a note in parenthesis that it's a pistol-caliber conversion? I'd lean toward the latter, as the former might create some confusion. Spartan198 13:23, 21 August 2012 (CDT)

I'd agree with separating them, but would state that although it is possible to do a pistol caliber conversion of this rifle it is appears that in this case the developers have simply altered the original 5.56mm model. --commando552 14:25, 21 August 2012 (CDT)

Added a few screenshots

Mainly ones I found on Google. Still work to be done, though. Spartan198 03:45, 18 August 2012 (CDT)

It's almost like nobody has played this game. --DeltaOne 03:47, 18 August 2012 (CDT)

Well, it was pretty much avoided like the plague by most SOCOM fans and with good reason, too. :/ Spartan198 10:47, 18 August 2012 (CDT)

That, and it was released during the month and a half long PSN outage, and seeing as quite a few gamers today buy games for the online mode only, it's not hard to see that played a pretty big part in the game failing, as well as it being a bad SOCOM game. Kornflakes89 09:13, 21 August 2012 (CDT)

No, being a bad SOCOM game falls squarely on the fact that it played little differently than, although admittedly not identically to, a third person Call of Duty game. Some blame should also fall on that bizarre love story between Gray and Forty-Five that was part of the SP campaign, too. Spartan198 10:57, 21 August 2012 (CDT)

Alot of people still play this game, but I don't know how to add screenshots on pages.--Commandoninja137 10:58, 18 August 2012 (CDT)

Step one involves dropping $100+ on a capture device, for console games. Evil Tim 11:03, 18 August 2012 (CDT)

Either way, I'm working on it. I'll have to scour the web for un-watermarked screenshots and it's going slow, but I'm working on it. Spartan198 (talk) 10:31, 8 September 2012 (EDT)

On second thought, I'll just screencap off YouTube. lol Don't know why I didn't think of that sooner. Spartan198 (talk) 00:25, 17 September 2012 (EDT)

Forgot

Crap, I completely forgot about this page. I need to get up off my ass and finish it. :/ Spartan198 (talk) 05:56, 27 May 2013 (EDT)

Okay, I have been trying repeatedly to upload a screencap of the G36C in the weapon select screen, but every time I try, I get sent to a Cloudfire anti-spam captcha. It's only this specific image I've had this issue with. I've tried renaming the image several times all with the same result. What doesn't IMFDb like about this screenshot? Spartan198 (talk) 08:49, 12 July 2013 (EDT)

Why can't you just complete the captcha and upload it, or is this not working for some reason? --commando552 (talk) 11:33, 12 July 2013 (EDT)

It won't let me upload the screencap. I complete the captcha to upload, but it just sends me back to the blank upload page. I do it again and same result. Spartan198 (talk) 05:56, 13 July 2013 (EDT)