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Talk:Red Heat
Question about the Sleeve Device
If anyone can answer this, how does a sleeve device work? I've been wondering how he can pull the gun out from under his sleeve. -500Magnum
- Spring-loaded.-protoAuthor
Model 66 or 629?
I moved this to the discussion page. --Predator20 19:54, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
A Snubnosed Smith & Wesson Model 66 with Pachmayr combat grips, is the sidearm of Chicago Police Detective Art Ridžić (James Belushi) in the movie.
- Looks too big to be a K-Frame S&W 66. You can also tell by the barrel and the subtle difference in the shape of the ejector shroud (compared to a 2.5" Model 66 barrel.) that it is probably an N-Frame 629 with 3" barrel in .44 Magnum. This makes sense if Belushi's character gives Arnie a full-sized Model 29. He probably really liked the "big" Magnums! - --sidspappy 20:16, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
- I think you're on to something there!!!! :) Something to look into! I will try to find a 629 snubbie to photograph for comparison! THANKS! MoviePropMaster2008 01:52, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
I also believe it is a Smith & Wesson model 629 with a three inch barrel. Another possibility is the .44 Special N frame M624. However, I cannot see the typical barrel taper of the M624 in the pictures and the cylinder also seems to fill the frame almost completely. The model 624 features a slightly shorter cylinder, as the .44 Special rounds are shorter in length as well.
I took this screencap only to show the muzzle. Looks like a .357 to me not a .44. -Predator20 17:47, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
- After comparing the 66 to the 629, I agree with Predator. This is definitely a model 66. 1) the muzzle is definitely that of a .357 revolver. 2) the barrel on Belushi's gun looks a bit too long to be a 629, but it looks EXACTLY like a model 66. The first shot is a dead giveaway. -Gunman69 18:05, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
I would agree that in many of the shots it looks like a 629 with a 3inch barrel, they existed at the time, and in the first shots the barrel and the cylinder appear too large for a .357, the gun itself is too large as well. Belushi has large hands but that gun seems to dwarf them. In the final picture I could see how that is a .357, but the first shots are without a doubt a .44 RedJedRevolver 18:36, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
While in some of the shots the gun seems large. I don't think people realize that k-frames like the Model 66 or 19 are full size guns. A snub-nose Model 66 or 19 is not the same size as a j-frame Model 36. Here is a pic below for comparison. Now if the gun Belushi is using is an n-frame, I think it would be a Model 27 - .357 with a stainless finish. --Predator20 20:16, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
We understand perfectly, but the barrel size is just too large, I have rather large hands myself and I own a full size revolver, and my hands make that gun seem diminutive. My point is not that I think you are wrong with the muzzle shots, but the others that gun is too large.RedJedRevolver
I don't think Ridžić used the model 66. He definitely used a .44 Mag. He most likely used the S&W 629 3" barrel w/ different grips. He didnt use a .357
Model 64 or 60?
- Det. Sgt. Gallagher (Richard Bright) carries what looks like a S&W Model 10 snubnose, except in Stainless steel, which would make it the S&W Model 64.
- The cylinder looks like it only holds five shots, meaning it would be the Model 60 snub. - Gunmaster45
- It may be, but it also looks like a 6 shot to me. It's always hard since actors have different sized hands and this looks larger than a Model 60 to me. I will scroll through the film again and scan for better pics of the cylinder. -MoviePropMaster2008 04:33, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
- I think its a Model 64. On a Model 60, when looking at the gun from the right side, you cannot see the ejector rod, but on a Model 64, you can. Notice how can most definitely see the ejector rod on Gallagher's gun. -Gunman69 07:34, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
Actually, looking at it now, while you can see the ejector rod, the barrel on Gallagher's gun is a little too long to be a model 64. But it IS the right size for a nickel Smith & Wesson Model 36, which also has the ejector rod exposed on the right side. That's definitely the gun that Gallagher uses. -Gunman69 07:47, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
Polish P-64
The gun listed as a Hungarian FEG MAK380 used by a Russian police officer Yuri Ogarkov (Oleg Vidov) actually appears to be a polish gun called P-64.
