Talk:Splinter Cell: Blacklist

"HK416" not HK416?

I'm pretty sure the so-called M416 in SC:B is not a HK416. It lacks four unique, identifying characteristics of the HK416; the raised top rail, the shape of the handguard, the gas block, and the nearly horizontal magwell bottom.

As far as I can tell, it's some other modern AR carbine with a 10" barrel that has been misnamed by the developers. Anyone else got any input?

Ramell 14:51, 22 July 2012 (CDT)

I think what's got people automatically thinking it's a 416 is that front sight. I'll admit that's what did it for me when I saw the reveal trailer. Thought 'hmmm.....ditched the SC rifle for the 416' --DeltaOne 21:05, 22 July 2012 (CDT)

Are you telling that this is the first AR-15 you see in a game that has no gas block yet it can fire? BTW the selector has the HK416-style pictographs and let's not forget that these are pre-release images. - bozitojugg3rn4ut 05:56, 23 July 2012 (CDT)

@DeltaOne: Yeah, it looks like a HK front sight. A company named Troy Industries makes sights that look like those.

@Bozitojugg3rn4ut: No, it's not a lack of a gas block, but that specific gas block. Also, there are other AR lowers with the HK-style pictographs. They are pre-release images, sure, but it's not a HK416 in those. If it's changed to a real HK416 in release, it's all good, but right now, it's incorrect to call it an HK416. Ramell 06:33, 23 July 2012 (CDT)

SC3000

@Deltaone I'm glad that the SC3000 rifle got replaced. It was almost as annoying as the "hideous spawn of the devil" (http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Far_Cry_Instincts:_Predator#.22Assault_Rifle.22) --Speo16 06:45, 23 July 2012 (CDT)

What indication is there at this point to say it's been replaced? A few screenshots of Sam holding different rifles only means the ability to pick up enemy weapons is being carried over from Conviction. Besides, the SC3000 is far, far from the worst fictional design I've ever seen. Spartan198 08:18, 23 July 2012 (CDT)

yes but compared to sc2000k(im not sure i got that right) it is kinda bad, and in conviction pistols were basically the primaries

and rifles incl. sc3000 were useless. And me personally i think sc3000 feels like a downgrade than an upgrade--Speo16 14:44, 23 July 2012 (CDT)

SC3000 was a garbage rifle. Always wound up using the M468 (REC7) instead. --DeltaOne 22:20, 23 July 2012 (CDT)

You call it garbage, yet its performance in the game totally contradicts that. After putting a suppressor on the M468, accuracy and knockdown power seemed to drop drastically. This was where the SC3000 beat it out, as the addition of a suppressor didn't degrade its performance at all. If anything, accuracy in full-auto increased and bullet spread decreased with it. Spartan198 (talk) 16:23, 11 September 2012 (EDT)

A Few BTS Images

Link Some interesting weapons there...

I would love to see the ARX-160 in the game tho. bozitojugg3rn4ut (talk) 09:48, 6 September 2012 (EDT)