Talk:Sa vz. 61 Skorpion

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SA Vz. 61 Skorpion with 10 round magazine - .32 ACP

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What's with the SA? This is a Samopal Vzor 1961 submachine gun, commonly shortened to Vz.61, made by Česká Zbrojovka Uhersky Brod, usually known as CZ. Nothing in the name ought to be abbreviated as SA except concievably Samopal, and that not in English. Surely this article ought to be called "CZ Vz.61 Skorpion"

Submachine Gun vs. Machine Pistol

A machine pistol is a type of submachine gun. Why is this even an issue? BurtReynoldsMoustache 18:27, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Vz.61 or Vz 61?

Which is correct? - Mr. Wolf 10:12, 25 May 2011 (CDT)

I think it's a Mr / Mr. thing, both are but the dot is more formal. Evil Tim 10:16, 25 May 2011 (CDT)

Actually the correct form is vz. (all small letters). Source, official CZ site: [1], scroll down to see the Samopal and Skorpion. bozitojugg3rn4ut 10:51, 25 May 2011 (CDT)

Well, vzor isn't a proper noun; vz. 61 is basically Mk. 61. In English you'd capitalise it if you were saying "Skorpion Mk. 61," so I think it's right to do that here too. Evil Tim 11:21, 25 May 2011 (CDT)

Thanks a lot. :) - Mr. Wolf 12:22, 25 May 2011 (CDT)

M61?

Was this weapon ever referred to as an "M61" in any official form? The reason I ask is that I read part of a (sadly misinformed) critic's article on Pulp Fiction, which referred to the MAC-10 in that film as a "Czech M61 submachine gun", and the Skorpion was the closest thing I can think of that fits the name. MrOshimida27 20:09, 6 August 2011 (CDT)

well the Skorpion is called "Vz .61", so there might be version of the Skorpion called "M61" but I'm not really sure. - Mr. Wolf 02:01, 7 August 2011 (CDT)

"Vz" stands for "Vzor" which means "Model". So they basically meant "Model 61" with "M61". - bozitojugg3rn4ut 03:47, 7 August 2011 (CDT)

Right. ;) - Mr. Wolf 14:38, 7 August 2011 (CDT)

Skorpion family

If this page covers all the different variants, should it be renamed? Doesn't vz. 61 only describe the .32 ACP model? --Funkychinaman 16:42, 29 December 2011 (CST)

Well, the correct name would be something like "CZ Skorpion series" or similar. (Or just get rid of the "Sa." part. I speak Czech, but I have no idea why is it there. Obviously it stands for "samopal" (English: automatic weapon), but that was never part of the Skorpions' designation. Tho, I am afraid the renaming the page now would mess up all the redirects. If someone renames the page, he will have to correct the links/redirects too, and that is not a 2 minute job... --bozitojugg3rn4ut 16:55, 29 December 2011 (CST)

Just noticed that someone else was also protesting against the "Sa." part in the name. --bozitojugg3rn4ut 16:57, 29 December 2011 (CST)