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Talk:Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol
What is the pistol used by Simon Pegg in the 3rd SIG screenshot? Am fairly sure it isn't a P226 as stated. Might be a Glock 17, but the front profile looks too tall/narrow. --commando552 16:37, 29 June 2011 (CDT)
- Has now been changed to say it is a Glock 17, which I admit is closer, but compare the pic of Renner with the Glock 17 to Pegg. They are both held at a similar angle, yet the front view of the guns looks drastically different, with Pegg's lookng much taller/thinner. Maybe it is just lighting though. --commando552 16:33, 1 July 2011 (CDT)
Not a Glock - that's for sure. Though that front sight looks Glock, the bore-axis is all wrong. If I look quickly, I think P250, but then I waiver. Definitely Sig though. --Gwhysow 17:47, 31 October 2011 (CDT)
I don't know, if you look closely on the slide, it looks like it has Glock type markings.Plus the slide release appears to be the same as other Glocks. Possible Non Gun? Bristow8411 17:20, 19 December 2011 (CST)
Some more screenshots
Some more weapons to be ID'ed. --Ben41 04:39, 4 July 2011 (CDT)
- Top one looks like it could be a USP compact. --commando552 06:34, 4 July 2011 (CDT)
- It is. - Mr. Wolf 16:39, 4 July 2011 (CDT)
USP Compact, Five-seven?, ???----JazzBlackBelt-- 21:33, 14 August 2011 (CDT)
- The bottom one looks like a H&K P7 with a suppressor and the slide locked back. Yay, unrealistic sparking bullets! :D - Mr. Wolf 17:28, 15 August 2011 (CDT)
- The second one is propably a 1911 variant --Warejaws 19:34, 9 September 2011 (CDT)
Another two photos from the latest trailer:
- A Cougar --Warejaws 17:11, 31 October 2011 (CDT)
The sig p226r
The bottom picture on the Sig p226r section is the P226 TACOPS. You can tell my the extended grip well.--Spades of Columbia 20:47, 10 September 2011 (CDT)
I don't think this pistol is a TACOPS as it lacks the beavertail. Closest thing I can come up with is that it is a P226 Super Capacity Tactical fitted with the "Magwell" grips the TACOPS has. Proof will really be in the trigger, as the SCT is an older model and has the traditional trigger, as opposed to the TACOPS (which seems to have replaced it in the current SIG line-up) which has the new short reset trigger. Trigger is not visible in the trailer though, so will have to wait for the movie to come out to be sure. --commando552 18:04, 31 October 2011 (CDT)
- If we're not sure that it's a P226 TACOPS, who the hell changed it? Personally, I don't think it is one...the screencap is too blurry to tell if the grip is extended, and Paula Patton might just not have very big hands (which most women don't). Until the movie comes out and we can confirm the identity of the pistol, let's just call it a P226R for now. -MT2008 11:04, 1 December 2011 (CST)
The picture is crappy...watch the trailer it does for sure have the extended grip and you can tell it has the tritium truglow sight on the front as well...yes it is possible someone put the extended grips onto a SCT but what would be the point of doing that? Its a Sig with all the features of the Tacops...i personally didnt change it but i think it the right gun.--Spades of Columbia 11:16, 1 December 2011 (CST)
- It doesn't have all the features of a Tacops as it lacks the beavertail, meaning that it is either a P226R with the slide changed for a Tacops one and magwell grips fitted, or it is a SCT with the grips added. Or it is a variant I am not aware of. --commando552 11:46, 1 December 2011 (CST)
Did some looking around and it seems like Sig did produce SCT models with the magwell grips on them...that would explain the lack of beavertail and why it has the tritium truglo sights.--Spades of Columbia 11:49, 2 December 2011 (CST)
- I'm not sure if SIG actually made SCTs with the magwell grips, but it was a common aftermarket mod as shown below:
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- I've also photo shopped the Magwell grips onto an SCT, think this is a better picture:
- --commando552 12:50, 2 December 2011 (CST)
Kremlin
The Russian Guards at the Kremlin wouldnt use a SKS in real life would they?--Spades of Columbia 20:15, 30 November 2011 (CST)
- Ceremonial guards, which those soldiers are supposed to be, use the SKS while parading: Kremlin Guards --Markit 21:25, 30 November 2011 (CST)
Sad!...how embarrassing for them.--Spades of Columbia 09:28, 1 December 2011 (CST)
- !? - Mr. Wolf 21:16, 1 December 2011 (CST)
What's embarassing? They are ceremonial guards much like the 3rd Infantry Regiment here in the U.S. at Arlington. The ones that the public sees are there for a specific purpose but the remainder of the unit is at the ready in case of an incident. Are you going to tell the guards at Arlington that you're embarrassed because they carry M1 Garands when on duty? --DeltaOne 22:25, 19 December 2011 (CST)
Random thoughts from seeing the movie in IMAX
Saw MI4 in IMAX this Saturday (the IMAX version was released a week early). It was an awesome visual treat, the 30 mins of IMAX footage look spectacular. The high-tech train car/safe-house that can be seen in the trailer had racks of what looked like G36Cs and and P226Rs, which have already been ID'd on the main page, and possibly the newest versions of the P229, not sure.
Question to you guys with real handgun service/repair experience, in the real world could some one reach over and remove the slide from a hand gun like Brandt does to the guard's Cougar? It seems to me that the slide should be much harder to get off, since wouldn't it fly off randomly in usage if it were as easily removed in the real world?
Also a kudos to the production team is that they seem to have gotten the actors (at least for Jeremy Renner) some decent firearms training because we see Brandt disarm Hunt of his handgun and then he releases the magazine from the gun AND releases the round in the chamber. Many actions movies seem to forget about the one already in the chamber when showing the hero removing the bullets from a handgun.
Also the fact that Jeremy Renner kept his finger off the trigger as he never intended on pulling the trigger.
- I think this is relatively easy to do with a Cougar as unlike other handguns you do not need to retract the slide at all. To remove it you just hold a button on the right side of the frame, flick the locking lever down and pull the slide forward. Not sure if you can do this with a loaded magazine in place though. --commando552 17:42, 19 December 2011 (CST)
- Fixed something in that third paragraph --DeltaOne 22:10, 19 December 2011 (CST)
- I know that pulling forward on the slide use to allow it to be pulled off, as that was one of the reasons given for police to stick with revolvers for a long time, and was even taught somewhere as a disarmament technique (I do not remember where). I do not know if something more modern would still allow you to do this, or even if it is that easy to do (never tried it) but at least at some point in the not so distant past it was. Dover500 08:16, 20 December 2011 (CST)
When they board the traincar, one agent was holding a sig 552.--James Woods 15:43, 20 December 2011 (CST)
Guns seen in movie (in theaters)
I definitely saw a Tokarev (or a copy) in the hands of one of the assassins in the river scene, the guy on the end. Also, Agent Carter was holding a Sig 552 when they enter the train. In the train armory, I saw some kind of Semi-Auto sniper rifle, possibly a Remington RSASS. It was too slim to be a Barrett. That gun that Dunn in holding in the above screenshot is definitely a Glock, for sure. The silenced pistol from the server room scene (and several scenes before that) looks like a .22, maybe a Browning Buckmark. Its trigger guard was angular, so that rules out a Ruger Mark III, and the slide was chrome. In the river scene I also saw an assassin with a modernized RPK with an under-folding bipod. -Cutter9792. 12/22/2011 17:54, two hours after seeing the movie.