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Talk:Deus Ex: Human Revolution
I never played any of the other Deus Ex games but this looks interesting. I'm curious to see how this game turns out. But one question: The Hurricane TMP-18, it looks more like a modified Uzi with a stock of a MP5 then a Steyr TMP. I might be looking at it wrong and I might not be the BEST expert when it comes to weapons, but it doesn't look like its based on a Steyr TMP. User:SeanWolf
- I don't know, the Uzi does not have a fore-grip, that is why I wrote the TMP. Could be maybe the MP9 but that is technically a TMP. I'm not an expert either, but I think it is closer to the TMP/MP9 design. Anyways, someone with more "skill" with decide. bozitojugg3rn4ut 23:46, 9 March 2011 (MSK)
- Well I will give you credit, You did good work on this page! I was actually thinking about creating this page, but I think you beat me too it! User:SeanWolf
- Thank you. And your help is always welcome. And maybe you can help with this SR, cuz I have no idea:
- Well I will give you credit, You did good work on this page! I was actually thinking about creating this page, but I think you beat me too it! User:SeanWolf
bozitojugg3rn4ut 00:41, 10 March 2011 (MSK)
- Hm, wow this is tricky. It looks like a heavily modified PGM Ultima Ratio Commando.
User:SeanWolf
- Hm, wow this is tricky. It looks like a heavily modified PGM Ultima Ratio Commando.
- It seems to have the gas tube of an AS50, but the rest, eh. Looks like a real guess-the-components Frankengun. Vangelis 09:36, 10 March 2011 (MSK)
"Bullpup assault rifle."
Seen an image of this thing in a magazine, and, well, I'm not entirely sure it's actually a bullpup.
It looks more like some kind of weird en-bloc setup, a bit like most of the guns in Battlefield 2142 used. The "adaptable ammo" I'd guess is for the underbarrel launcher, though it's so long it'd stick clear of the front of it. Vangelis 09:58, 10 March 2011 (MSK)
- I have found a video in which we can see the reloading animation of the gun. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAXOTugQGvs&feature=related (Note: the audio quality is piece of sh*t.) The reload can be seen after 08:05. Jensen inserts the mag above the trigger, like you do with the P90. As far as I know the P90 is a bullpup weapon so I think this one can be too. bozitojugg3rn4ut 14:05, 10 March 2011 (MSK)
- Yeah, but the actual feed location of the P90 is way behind the trigger, which is at the front of the weapon; the same goes for the G11, which has the back of the magazine inside the stock. This one, the magazine is inserted right on top of the trigger group and the feed location would be in front of it, meaning it isn't a bullpup, just an unusual layout. Vangelis2 15:00, 10 March 2011 (MSK)
- If you are right and the feed loc is in the front of the rifle, then the barrel must be like 5 inch long... The game takes place in 2027 so could be. I will remove the "bullpup" from the main page. bozitojugg3rn4ut 17:19, 10 March 2011 (MSK)
- Well, unless it feeds from the rear of the flip-up loading port, and we'd need a much clearer video to say which way around the magazine / en-block clip is when he puts it into the weapon (one with the first-person reload would be nice); this, of course, operates under the assumption that they're trying to make the weapon workable rather than just cool-looking (BF2142 just threw around some BS excuse about "highly compressed ammo" to explain why a pistol-sized magazine could hold dozens of assault rifle rounds; perhaps they'll use the traditional series fallback of "it was nanomachines" as they did with DE: Invisible War's universal ammo). There does look to be something resembling an ejection port on the stock (presumably blanked off since Adam's wouldn't be lefty-configured), but I'm not sure that's what it is. Vangelis2 17:39, 10 March 2011 (MSK)
- If you are right and the feed loc is in the front of the rifle, then the barrel must be like 5 inch long... The game takes place in 2027 so could be. I will remove the "bullpup" from the main page. bozitojugg3rn4ut 17:19, 10 March 2011 (MSK)
- Yeah, but the actual feed location of the P90 is way behind the trigger, which is at the front of the weapon; the same goes for the G11, which has the back of the magazine inside the stock. This one, the magazine is inserted right on top of the trigger group and the feed location would be in front of it, meaning it isn't a bullpup, just an unusual layout. Vangelis2 15:00, 10 March 2011 (MSK)
That thing could only look more like a Masamune Shirow design (see "Ghost in the Shell") if it said "SEBURU ARMS" on the side of it. Atypicaloracle 05:33, 6 April 2011 (CDT)
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It's easier with this information
I created this topic 2 months earlier
on the official wikia of Deus Ex
=> http://deusex.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Deus_Ex:_Human_Revolution_weapons
cordialy,
ironintheskin from deusexwikia
- Well, if that whole block in the middle is the magazine rather than a flip-up loading port then it's certainly not a bullpup; given the shot on your Wiki shows the rear face of the magazine is flat, it must be feeding from in front of the trigger group. Vangelis2 12:35, 12 March 2011 (MSK)
- Yup, picked up my copy today. It's not a bullpup, even if it looks like one externally, since the mag seems to be loaded facing either forwards or up, not backwards; that puts the feed location in front of the trigger group. Also, I got the collector's edition, which means the game threw a huge bucket of free stuff at me as soon as I started the second level, and I got a "collectable" Adam Jenson figure. I guess in case I want to start a collection of many Adam Jensons. Evil Tim 07:19, 26 August 2011 (CDT)