Talk:Sucker Punch

So they just released the teaser and some hi-res images for this film--thought I'd write down what I saw.

--MP7 with suppressor and red-dot sight --M4/AR-15 with red dot and vertical grip --UMP with suppressor and red-dot --Some kind of shotgun (I wanna say a Mossberg 500 CC with a folding stock, but I could be dead wrong) --Mauser Kar98k --1911 handgun --MP5k --Some kind of flintlock pistol

Anyone else?

Wait, so this movie is about women killing Huns with modern weapons? BeardedHoplite 19:42, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

No...by my understanding all this is happening in one of the girls head...shes a abused teen and uses this fake world to cope with problems and to deal with a escape from a girls special home or something like that.--Spades of Columbia 19:46, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

This had better not END like BRazil :(

The girl has a five day window to escape from the mental institution before she is lobotomized. This film had better not end with her getting lobotomized! Downer endings like that suck! The point is that she and the other girl inmates are trying to figure out how to escape, all within the backdrop of the girl's own dreams about a hero life. MoviePropMaster2008 20:22, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Ah, but I like Brazil's ending, it was a nice change of pace from usual (happier) movie endings BeardedHoplite 21:31, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Brazil's ending worked for Brazil. This film could potentially be much more cruel, since the victim of the unjustly administered lobotomy is an abused girl. Though Brazil was a dark look at a totalitarian society, this one could just be an exercise in cruelty. But then I really have a problem with Lobotomies in general. to me it's WORSE than death. MoviePropMaster2008 00:59, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

I always thought the worst thing you could do to a person you absolutely hated was an icepick lobotomy. That would be much crueler than death, not matter how slow. That being said, who still does lobotomies? Is the film set in the fifties? --funkychinaman 01:22, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

The 'real world' stories is set in the 1950s, but the fantasy worlds in her head prior to her 'fate' is a mish mash of different dreamworlds. Even though the weapons are anachronistic for her time, since they are all fantasy weapons in her head, it really doesn't bother me being that she is 'dreaming' the weapons and events. MoviePropMaster2008 04:09, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

And lobotomies aren't exactly rare today either, they still happen. But, just like most medical procedures, it's not like television. Mercer 06:10, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

WTF are you talking about? On WHAT do you base this comment? Nobody has done lobotomies since the 1960s. Modern Anti psychotic drugs have taken the place of this barbaric surgical procedure. One, the vast majority of Lobotomies done in the world were in either America, Canada, the Scandinavian Countries or the UK. MoviePropMaster2008 06:22, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Here's a start http://www.psychologistworld.com/biological/lobotomy.php Not to mention brain tumors. I didn't say it was used in psychological medicine anymore, but is still a medical procedure performed to remove malicious tissue from the brain. I wouldnt just talk out of my ass MPM. Mercer 06:36, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

But if you wanna call horseshit on it, that's fine. No harm , no foul. =P Mercer 06:39, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

No whoreshit called ;) , you were talking about lobotomies in the context of the surgical removal of brain tissue. I was talking about a FRONTAL LOBOTOMY which was a scrambling of the frontal lobes as a 'cure' for various mental illnesses. So there WAS No harm no foul, we were talking about TWO different things. MoviePropMaster2008 06:44, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Apparently they are still done in France of all places occasionally, at least since 2001 http://www.ccne-ethique.fr/docs/fr/avis071.pdf. I don't know if you read french though. Admittedly it has been a few years since I've been in psychology classes. =P Mercer 06:52, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Well that's because they're French. What else don't they do over there? Excalibur01 05:30, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Scary thing is that's just what i could find documentation for. I saw some claims that they're still performed in the US; but since no credible sources jumped out at me on my casual search and any links I post via my school's library database will probably end up as dead for you guys it doesn't seem to be worth the effort to pursue. =P Mercer 07:15, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

It's because of modern medicine, such a procedure is now considered obsolete and unnecessary Excalibur01 15:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

http://media2.slashfilm.com/slashfilm/images/ZZ275A92D4.jpg In the pic you can see Amber (Jaime Chung) has a Glock 17. Good pic of the Bunny robot and its guns.

It looks like that handgun has a hammer which would make it not a glock.--Spades of Columbia 15:01, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Might it be the blue finish 1911 shown on the page? --redram355 20:16, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

This movie is gonad suck

I mean from actresses (if you can name em that) their hiring to the idea hell I'm all for girl power but when the hell did girl power mean actual girls I mean think about aliens and all the other movies women are in powerful roles they usually aren't little girl who act in Disney movies, sure there are examples Summer Glau of course but since she was in firefly everyone already associated her with badass

I love how anonymous posters slam a film they've never seen .... and their spelling usually SUCKS! LOL! MoviePropMaster2008 02:25, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

As I said before. This movie's all about hot chicks in skimpy clothing, wielding guns, swords and fighting monsters, dragons and demon samurai...What's not to like? Excalibur01 02:49, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Well I kinda like Surrealistic films and this counts! :) And I gotta admit, the girls look uberhot! I think chicks with guns (When done right and these actresses look like they've had some training) is HOT! :) MoviePropMaster2008 02:52, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

At least they don't look like they're duel wielding or shooting from the hip like all hotties do Excalibur01 02:54, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Frankly the sight of them walking across that bridge or whatever in a spread tactical formation bodes well for me. At least they had some sort of training for this that, and this is based on the images, they seem to be holding their weapons in a professional manner not, as Excalibur said, in some amateur fashion.--Charon68 09:08, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

This article [1] says they were trained six hours a day for three months by Navy SEALS. --redram355 20:16, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

anachronistic

the look of there imaginary world look like they took fiction, past, present, and future and mash them to gather. this kind of visual style making the idea of anachronistic pointless. we have dragons chasing a B-25 and Robots gunning down WW1 biplanes. so if thinks are out of place, they are there for the visual style. an example if a character is a detective he would be dresses like a 1930s detective so say up fount that he is a detective

No, being Anachronistic is still relevant to the context of the film. Since the girl is 'dreaming' her worlds, having ANY of those items is understandable, except for the stuff which has not been invented yet. A girl in the 1950s dreaming of a B-25 Bomber and a fire breathing dragon is not anachronistic. Now if they had her make a call on an IPHONE, that would be stupid. The weapons anachronisms only 'work' because they could be things that she dreams someday could be real, but even that's a bit of a cop out. MoviePropMaster2008 02:27, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

The School girl outfit the lead chick wears might be anachronistic if this takes place in the 50s because I don't believe such a style would exist at the time because the whole "bad girl", slutty girl motif hasn't been invented yet. So pretty much most of the weapons shouldn't even be in the girl's mind because seriously. Hate to seem sexist here, but how many girls does your granddad knows that knows guns enough to imagine guns that would not exist for 40 years? Excalibur01 02:40, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

I mean, seriously, robots that look like those? From the mind of a girl from the 50s. Robots weren't that streamline looking Excalibur01 02:48, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

She was very forward thinking ;) MoviePropMaster2008 04:31, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Do you really want them to design a whole new set of firing prop guns (which would probably be lackluster or simply ugly, then you would complain about that) when they can use real ones and just get on with it? --Mr-Jigsaw 05:22, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Real ones that don't fit in the time of the movie, even though it's a lot of made up dream sequences, it is still the 1950s and NONE of the weapons, especially the plastic ones like the UMP, and MP7 would exist. Couple that with that this IS a girl and yeah, if a girl dreams herself looking all slutty like that, odds are, she's not a gun nut as well and would have just dreamed up guns that fit her timeframe on what she saw in movies and posters of the time. I don't know how a girl in the 50s America would have heard of Samurai. Dragons, sure, everyone knows dragons and we've got NAZI's apparently or Germans. So it is understandable that her weird dreams of awesomeness would have things that exist in her time period or at least made up guns that don't exist at all. This is me speaking in a movie story sense. I'll reuse and modify something I said in Call of Duty Black OPS. Just like SOG, the dream world can bring in whatever you want since you'd have unlimited imagination, but that imagination can go only as far as the reality it is based on. So like how SOG in Black Ops cant get guns that hasnt even existed on paper yet, this girl's dreams can't dream up M4s and MP5s because they havent even existed in paper yet. Saying this is all a dream is not an excuse, it should have been something for the prop guns to build fictional guns from nothing because this is a dream Excalibur01 05:34, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Of course, this is assuming the surrealistic dream world is only in her head. It is entirely possible that the movie has a supernatural twist that hasn't been disclosed yet.