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Unknown Grenade

I don't have time to research this properly. Does anyone know who this character/actor is and what this grenade type is? It doesn't have a head like most of the known German grenades. von Tresckow

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Unscrewing cap.
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Pulls out arming wire.
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Holds primed grenade to his head.

I don't want to add this to the main page until I'm sure. - Gunmaster45

Confirmation would be appreciated ;) - Gunmaster45
Maybe it's a sawed down Model 24/43 that he made for the purpose of suicide, I can't imagine such a weapon like that with a purpose on the battlefield. --96.244.252.231 02:51, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Oh yeah, above was me -I forgot to log in. --AdAstra2009 02:52, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

The short shaft makes me think it might not be a Stielhandgranate, but one of the various other versions. The German "potato masher" was 14 inches long, this Bulgarian one is 11 inches with a much bigger percentage of that the head:

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And it's also possible it might be a Finnish M41 or even a Japanese grenade handle. Regardless, it looks like he's killing himself using just the detonator; this should project outside the grenade body, which supports the idea that this is something he made himself. Vangelis 03:36, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Also, according to IMDB, that's Kenneth Branagh as Major-General Henning von Tresckow. Vangelis 03:48, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

rifle grenade is even historically correct. Branagh acts it out better some frames later (watch his eybrow).

why not refer to the bomb as well, since it is well researched too.


The grenade that Kenneth Branagh is holding is a Gewehrpanzergranate 30 also known as GewPzGr. 30 Rifle Grenade. - Phoenixent 18:05, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

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In this picture there's written: "an SS officer...", he isn't an SS soldier. Look at the neck insignias, it has the Wehrmacht symbols. Pz.Abt.100 21:43, 28 July 2009 (UTC) Error creating thumbnail: File missing

Yeah, I'm a gun person, not a uniform person. ;) - Gunmaster45