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Talk:Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines

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Upside-down foregrip

Am I the first to notice that the M500AB foregrip on the SWAT officer's M4A1 in the first screencap for that weapon is actually upside-down? Spartan198 16:38, 11 May 2009 (UTC) Spartan198

Have NO IDEA what you are talking about. Post the screenshot here because I don't see anything close to what you are talking about. MoviePropMaster2008 19:06, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

The guy on the right holding the M4, note the flashlight hanging from the lower left side of the foregrip, instead of sitting on the top right where it should be.

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A SWAT officer (right) armed with an M4A1 carbine during the cemetery shootout

Spartan198 09:39, 12 May 2009 (UTC) Spartan198

"Miniguns"

The weapons on the T-1 robots are not Miniguns. They are prop weapons that use CGI muzzle flashes. The gun itself looks nothing like a Minigun is considerably larger. According to the novelization these weapons fire .50BMG rounds.

Novelizations of films count for exactly nothing about a movies page.Usually a novelization is vastly different than a film. The people writing the literary version of a film know even less about the firearms acctually used in a film than the director.The Miniguns are mock ups but they are representing Miniguns. They are too small to be GAU-19s.Rockwolf66 07:30, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

I didn't say they were GAU-19s. Not every gun in a movie necessarily has a real life counterpart or is event supposed to be representing a real weapon. What I said was that these were prop weapons that are larger than Miniguns and have a dissimilar structure from Miniguns and according to canon they fire .50BMG rounds. Obviously the scene pays a homage to T2, but they aren't actual Miniguns, and if they are intended to be, then Stan did a pretty poor job of mocking them up, because at a casual glance it is apparent that they are not M134s.

The Shotgun while on Motorcycle

Motorcycles are designed to stay straight as long as you are balancing it. I personally adjust my helmat, shirt, etc while riding at 40 mph. I can see Arnie pumping another round while riding no problem. -The Winchester

Snarky sarcasm from noobs

We are seeing more obnoxious commentary from noobs on pages that alot of veteran IMFDB members and mods have worked on. Though we encourage active participation by new members, being obnoxious or WRONG is not encouraged. One can be sarcastic only if the 'goof' is so obvious that everyone's eyes will be rolling. But we are getting a lot of nasty comments about trivial things, and that creates an atmosphere of negativity that is not good for IMFDB. Just my 2 cents.  :) MoviePropMaster2008 05:48, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

I apologize for my comment, it was one of my first posts and was I told not to post on the page itself, but rather the talk page instead, by several other peole on different pages and have since stopped. I probably should have erased my post from this page, sorry. But I don't think my comment was 'nasty' or 'wrong'. It really only has 3 AKM parts were added to it, the front sight block, pistol grip and reciever cover(the gas port block is debatable, some chinese guns have the akm bayonet mount, but most didn't). Judging from the pistol grip and top cover, I'd assume that the parts came from an egyptian maadi(given that the gun was used in some older films, the maadi is the mostly likely canidate, Hungarian top cover is a little too short to fit properly and has a different pistol grip, and romanian guns had only just started to be imported and had thumbhole stocks) As far as gunsmithing goes, they shortened the barrel, gas tube, gas piston and drilled a new hole for the gas port. That's not really that big, since it's a blank gun(live fire would be inaccurate since you'd most likely mess up the rifiling). I am of course assuming that the gas block is chinese, if it too was egytian they would have had to remove the barrel from the trution block and likely need to add shims for the maadi barrel to fit. which would be a royal pain in the ass getting everything lined up properly. when I think of a heavily customized AK, I think the folding saiga shotgun that was used in Firefly(I forget what movie it was originally made for at the moment). Maybe my idea of 'heavly customized' is too different from your idea. And I cannot figure out why they felt the need to mix and match parts. Is the AKM front sight more sinister looking? Thats the drawn out and hopefully more polite version of my critique of the weapon. I have built several AKs and while yes, the dimensions are not idetical from country to country, the AK isn't a precision instrument and most parts can be made to fit on another with little effort. PS pleasedon't ban me. Zurak-47