Talk:Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2

Brazillian Militia?

They better make the main character waste the militia alongside the Brazilian Army or the BOPE or i am not buying it.-Oliveira 19:07, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Guns from the new teaser

Can someone identify these guns?

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I thought it was a MP5K but if we look closer, it doesn't seem to be one.

It could be a K with the forward grip removed? Spartan198

looks like an MP5 with a tactical end-cap, kinda like the end cap on the MP5K. no idea why there's a 15 round magazine though

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And this one looks like a UMP but the the silhouette isn't exactly the same (maybe the model of the game was not loaded enough).

--PhantomT1412 08:27, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

It definitely resembles a UMP, it probably has rails on the handguard, as well as the front sight removed, as they did in the last game ~Revolver

The one in the first picture is I think a Special Weapons MP-10. Check it out at the bottom of the mp5 page.

The forearm doesn't look as large as the MP-10 though... everything else looks like a MP-10 indeed.--PhantomT1412 11:10, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

The two guns look similar minus the stock and clip. I could be wrong but I'm sure that if it isn't a special weapons mp-10 then it is an UMP.ShaDow XPS

Magazine goddamit!Oliveira 23:30, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

What's wrong with saying clip? It means the same thing.

.. Uh, no. It's not. A 'clip' is the device that loads a magazine. You either use it to load your detachable magazines, or you carry the clips to load the fixed magazine in your rifle (on old rifles). You don't carry 'clips' around any more. They're two different things. It's like saying rim and tyre mean the same thing. --Joffeloff 12:44, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I've never heard that before. I can see where clip comes from stripper clip that they used in rifles. Everyone around me says clip and mag is interchangeable but people use mag more often. If it really bothers you that much then I'll just say mag then.

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Special Weapons MP-10 9x19mm

The second one looks like an UMP. I'm pretty sure we're dealing with two guns here.

Yeah but there is no rear sight on the one in the screenshot, and it's disturbing me... maybe they took it away because of the Red Dot on it.--PhantomT1412 11:10, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Actually if you look closely that kinda square shape towards the back of the gun is the iron sight so it's pretty much an UMP with what looks like an ACOG. If you're talking about the front sight for the UMP which does appear to be missing, remember that they removed the front sights from the M4/M16 when you attach a sight even though that's not standard.ShaDow XPS

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Heckler & Koch UMP .45 ACP

ShaDow XPS

what AK is this?

http://www.gamegrep.com/showimage.php?pos=2&newsid=20387 http://www.gamegrep.com/showimage.php?pos=4&newsid=20387 http://www.gamegrep.com/showimage.php?pos=5&newsid=20387

In the first image I can see that it has a waffle magazine. In the second image I can see that a muzzle brake is present, and in the last image I can see what appears to be a Tapco Intrafuse AK-47 Handguard. So what is it? Oh and it appears to have a synthetic stock. 72.133.253.21 21:10, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Guns from the trailer

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FN FAL or Imbel MD-3 (brazilian variant of the FAL)?

I hope it's an FAL. You barely ever see them in video games-S&Wshooter

Me too. I love fals. And the gun above looks like a IMBEL MD2. Heres the wikipedia article: [1]. Note how it has a STANAG Magazine like the MD2.I also love how ridiculous looking the Brazilian gang members are.Oliveira 17:39, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

rather MD-3 isn't it? Since it hasn't a foldable stock.--PhantomT1412 18:51, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Yeah without the folding stock it is a MD3.Oliveira 20:38, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

However, the gun's long barrel looks more like a FAL... ahh sh*t! This fuc*ing game is driving me mad, every guns don't look exactly the same as their originals^^--PhantomT1412 21:11, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I think there are Imbel MD2s or MD3s with the regular barrel.Oliveira 21:14, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok, there are no Imbel MD3s with regular barrels. It's most likely a design error by the developters.Oliveira 21:59, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

(comment: It better be a FAL. I'm getting tired of M4's, M16's, AK's and G36's. I want to be able to use a gun ingame that in't too small for me in real life.-S&Wshooter)

I agree. the game better have G3s and IMI galils. I also love the fact that is a Brazilian made Fal. You don't see those in movies.Oliveira 23:45, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

I also want a MG3 or some kind of big, dumb machine gun chambered to 7.62x51mm NATO. Machine guns chambered to 7.62 tear shit up.Oliveira 00:04, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Hell yeah man! Thats exactly what I'm saying. I would also like to see some more bolt action jobs that aren't crappy( DSR-1, Enfield Enforcer, Steyr SSG) in video games- S&Wshooter 00:22, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

This would probably be the IMBEL MD-2 (folding stock) or MD-3 (fixed stock) which is manufactured locally in Brazil. The weapons are based, pretty much, on the FAL with the exception that they fire a 5.56 round Charon68

And are fed from STANAG Magazines and have different handguards.Oliveira 16:31, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm tired of .223 guns. I would like to see a FAL, M14 or G3 that isn't emasculated (made innacurate, weak or make ammo for it scarce)-S&Wshooter

I want a M14 that is not tricked out with rails like the one in Call of Duty 4. I want a M14 like the one below:

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A real M14.

I do like the Mk 14 Mod 0 EBR rifle though. I also want A M16A4 that doesn't fire on Full Auto and a AK-74. AK-74s don't get enough love.Oliveira 18:02, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

CoD 7 will be about Vietnam War according to rumours, maybe they'll put in one.--PhantomT1412 19:33, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

And smaller conflicts in africa. I hope they also put atleast one level that takes place in the portuguese colonial war.

Oliveira 01:29, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Now i think the FAL above may be a FN FAL with rails on the handguards and a 30 round magazine but i think it's too curved and big to be 7.62x51mm NATO.Oliveira 17:06, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

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--PhantomT1412 16:54, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

• A Kriss Super V?

Cool. The pistol is a Desert Eagle, by the way.-protoAuthor

I think the pistol is a Jericho 941 since it's too small to be a desert eagle.Oliveira 18:38, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

No, it's an Eagle. Check out the ejection port.

I concur. It's not terribly visible, but there's that familiar slide mounted safety in both shots. It appears to be a totally game-created custom finish though - the barrel and the underlying section of the frame (where the gas pistons are housed) look to be blued and the grips and the rest of the frame looks silver. On a couple of related notes, wow at the graphics - I took these for pictures of the developers testing out their guns at first - and wow at the handling of the Desert Eagle by this guy. Usually in these games, you see handguns being handled only somewhat compentently at best. This guy looks like he sleeps with the damn thing. ---Clutch 02:09, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Also, take note of the sound it makes when it fires. Exact same sound as the Desert Eagle in CoD4.

The machine gun

I think the machine gun that the russian terrorists are using is a M240.Oliveira 17:42, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I think it's a M249 SAW, the M240 (GP Machine gun) is bigger.--PhantomT1412 18:00, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Could it possibly be a Mk. 46?

Makes sense since most of the guns are special forces guns.Oliveira 17:52, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

New AK

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I think its just an amped up AK-47. It has an AR-15 stock, waffle magazine, and has a synthetic handguard. Found a similar image:

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Rock and Metal 22:22, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Good god, look what they did to that AK! That's just horrible. I hope the AK in the game isn't like that.Oliveira 22:37, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I watched the trailer again. I am sure that i saw a AK with a AK-74 style flash hider.Oliveira 22:55, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Maybe a AK-101 since NATO forces use 5.56mm.--PhantomT1412 11:05, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

I think it could be a AK-74M or just a AK-74 since the russian army might make a apparence and they need to arm the russian soldiers.Oliveira 18:38, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

I said "NATO forces"--PhantomT1412 22:42, 26 May 2009 (UTC) because the one having it in the screenshot is Soap... well, maybe or surely, he captured because he had a M14 at the beginning.

Well...the game's plot is a about a Uber badass special forces unit that works alone and is headed by our buddy Soap up there. So, i guess the badass special forces unit is not part of NATO.Oliveira 23:35, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Neither AK-101 or AK-74, the magazine in the image holds 7.62x39mm. Rock and Metal 00:16, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Maybe theres the tricked out AK up there and the AK-74 style AK.Oliveira 16:26, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Well, seems like we won't know until we'll have a level walkthrough with the name of the weapon in it...--PhantomT1412 15:45, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Unrealeted

Ok, i know this has nothing to do with the game or releted to guns but, i was reading the Modern Warfare 2 thread on the Something Awful forums and they were calling the Brazilian gangters africans. What the fuck? and they seen to think the scenes in Rio De Janeiro are set in Africa. What the motherfuck? it offends me that people are dumb enough to ignore the line "he's got a contact in rio" and Christ the Redeemer and the huge mountains with favelas full of illiterate drug dealers and the Brazilian made Imbel MD-3.Oliveira 23:43, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

What do you expect? It's Something Awful!

To be fair all the favela gangsters that are seen so far are Afro-Brazilians, even if there are plenty of gang members of all races in real life. With so many games having levels in destroyed urban areas in Africa it's not surprising that some people would get a Black Hawk Down style vibe from the pictures.

Personally I hate something Awful as they break their own rules on posting. One member has a post on there with my first and last names and it's a bloody poison pen hitpeice. I asked the frigging syop to remove the shit and he laughed at me. Personally I find the site the home of a bunch of elitist idiots who have at least one member dumb enough to set the fuel line for a weilding torch on fire.Rockwolf66 19:17, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Hey, i like something awful but you have to be really dumb not to see the Christ the redeemer.Oliveira 16:26, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Hopes For New Game

Want a little realism and some weapons like standard battle rifles not all trick out with rails. Hoping russians have ak-74s and makarovs or that new 9x19 pistol they developed, not ak47s. Militias and gangs should have a mix of guns, not all berettas and 1911s. A makarov, cz-75, hk or two, glock, model 19 smiths.....just variety.

What the fick is an "akarov"? Lol-S&Wshooter 03:08, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Makarov, a 9x18mm pistol that has been issued in several variants to the russian military. Come on, seriously, sticky keys some things are mspelled.

I knew that. I was just kidding-S&Wshooter 03:35, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I think the brazilians should use taurus and stoeger guns too, that would be realistic. And the militia should have some sxs coach guns and taurus revolvers, you know, the non tatcticla stuff. And psitols should be portrayed as hard to shoot, not coming back exactly on target after each round and it should wobble a bit while aiming.

The Brazilian gangsters are using tricked out guns with rails. At least the IMBEL MD-3 up there has a Eotech reflex sight and what looks like rails on the handguards but they could be the regular MD-3 hand guard. We know the AKs are going to be tricked out as fuck like the image above but i think i saw a AK-74 that was not tricked out. I hope they have a AK-74.Oliveira 16:26, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Winchester 1200

We all know the 1200 is old and not used since vietnam. The 1300 is used. Would it be safe to say these are mis-named winchester 1300s? Or is it more video game nonsense?

The 1200 in this game is the same 1200 from Modern Warfare 1 so it's safe to say that the Winchester is a 1200 even though is pretty retarded to militarys still be using the 1200 today.Oliveira 18:52, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

I seriously doubt the 1200 was ever made in this configuration.

Me too but it is a video game and video game developters are pretty retarded when it comes to guns. Still, this and COD4 have the best Gun porn in video game history atleast by now.Oliveira 20:11, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Alright

Alright you son-of-a-bitches there's a gameplay video in gametrailers. It's pretty low quality but some new guns were seen, including the gun with the heartbeat sensor and some others. Now, i don't know how to screencap trailers so someone else will have to do it.Oliveira 20:58, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Here they come:

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--PhantomT1412 21:15, 2 June 2009 (UTC) YOU FOOL! It's "sons-of-bitches". That's a pretty awesome-looking cap, though.-protoAuthor

Thanks for the correction. I am sure Soap and Roach we using AKs with AK-74 flash hiders. Anyone have any idea what kind of AKs were those?-Oliveira 21:20, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Oliveira, do you think you could post a link of the trailer for me, please? Thanks so much. --Blemo 04:43, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Which trailer?-Oliveira 12:11, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

gameplay demo

did anyone see the new gameplay demo for Modern Warfare 2 it showed "Roach"(main protagonist) with a IMBEL MD-3 with a dot sight and a...radar im not good with gun attachments but is there really a radar attatchment?

It's a heartbeat sensor and the gun wasn't a MD-3. it looked like a fictional gun of some sort.Oliveira 17:52, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

some says it's a SCAR--PhantomT1412 21:16, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Makes sense since the charging handle is on the right side. But i think the SCAR charging handle is on the left side.Oliveira 21:46, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

-It looks like a Sig 556 variant to me - Mythekal

Yeah looks like the sig556 itself thogh, not the military versions? Also, would it be safe to say the glock is a glock 18, no idea how anyone would mistake a full auto as a g22/.

It could just be a fully automatic Glock 22. Gun rules dont necessarily matter to video games - Mythekal

Mythekal is right. Hell, Modern Warfare 1 had a M16A4 that fired on full auto.Oliveira 22:30, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

All that matters is the real weapon that the in-game version is modeled from. Call of Duty 4 had an Aks-74u modeled from an Airsoft gun - Mythekal

I'm starting to think that this rifle could be a Bushmaster ACR, as it shares similar traits, except for the placement of the charging handle - Mythekal

My thoughts too. The charging handle is consistent to the ACR, but the SCAR has the same kind of charging handle. We can't see the stock and both could accept a thermold mag. So it could be either. I really doubt they make up an entire fiction rifle for the sake of it. Modern Warfare was always all about guns that are real. Excalibur01 02:34, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Though the weird part is, the ACR has a slide release right next to the trigger, similiar to the XM8. You reload and just press forward with your trigger finger, no need to slap or pull the charging handle. The SCAR has the slide release like the AR-15 rifles, you can just slap it to release, but yet in the gameplay, you don't slap a slide release or push a slide release, you pull the charging handle back. Strange Excalibur01 02:36, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

It could be a Magpul Masada. It is very similar to the weapon in the videos, and has a charging handle on the right side of the receiver. In the video, the stock has a hinge, indicating a folding stock, which looks almost identical to the Masada. - Mythekal

The rifle also has ambidexterous charging handles - Mythekal

That sumbitch is most certainly a Masada.

new gameplay vid says it's a silenced ACR with heartbeat sensor.

I think it is a Magpul Masada Choi117

I watched the Gameplay and i'm sure that the gun is a ACR.Oliveira 22:32, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

ACR is the masada. Same gun, switched manufacturer.

Sorry, i didn't know that.Oliveira 00:07, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

But the stock is that of the Masada - Mythekal

ACR man, I know the Masada sounds cooler, but it isn't call that anymore. It's like people still calling the REC 7 a Barret M468 Excalibur01 04:42, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Or any of the M16 series of weapons a AR-15.-Oliveira 16:20, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Well if it's called AR15, you would be referring to the civilian M16 rifles. M16 is a military weapon and an AR-15 isn't. Excalibur01 04:11, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

i think the pistol is a Glock 18C

Most likely since it was firing on Full auto.Oliveira 18:13, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

It was pointed out that the firing rate wasn't the same speed as a real Glock 18, but it could be that the developers couldn't quite get the slide and sound speed for a Glock 18. Excalibur01 19:31, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Or it could be a Glock firing on semi-automatic. Oliveira 20:16, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

that little fucker fires fast if its semi auto(pardon my language)

Weapons-trailers

Been seeing trailers online annoncing weapons and perks. How much cred do they have? Theres no footage to back it up, bt several announced weapons are in the screenshots. They also list the 110 SASR, L85, L85 mg version, etc.

Weapon trailers? Where the hell can i find those? They could be really useful for the article.Oliveira 00:07, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Youtube, theres a "weapons" one that just lists guns, and a weapons and perks thing, the perks it actually ahs proof from the original teaser.

I wouldn't trust any of those youtube bull. One said there might be an XM8 in the game. I hope it does not. That's one more step towards having all the guns Rainbow Six have. Excalibur01 04:55, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Those videos are pure speculation. I'm sure those are all bullshit. We will only document weapons that are confirmed by the developters and seen in gameplay.Oliveira 16:20, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Hbar?

I don't want to offend anyone but, what the motherfuck is a Hbar?-Oliveira 22:19, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Its the Heavy barreled variant of the Aug meant to be a squad based machine gun - Mythekal

Hbar could also be refering to anything really. Heavy barrel anything. I've seen plenty of AR-15 variants in movies with Hbars. Excalibur01 04:01, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

[2] Sometime when the player passes over ennemies' corpses, he can take their weapons. One of them (the other is often a FA-MAS) is a AUG. There is four letter after it, a H at the beginning and I don't see well the other 3. But there is only one variant of the AUG with a "H" in its name, and that's the HBar.--PhantomT1412 08:24, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Could someone upload a image of the icon in the above video? The link isn't working for me.-Oliveira 21:43, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

I just watched the E3 gameplay again. The AUG HBAR pick up symbol looks amazingly like the SA80 British service rifle. Might be a place holder or something.ShaDow XPS

Correct Name

I think we should call this game Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 instead of just Modern Warfare 2 because we have a entire alphabetized series of Call Of Duty in the Video Games Category and just putting this in the "M" section does not look we even have this page. If somebody knows how to put this in the "C" section with out changing the name that will be organized.

Well that's the problem. Originally it WAS called Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 and some still do, but officially, the publishers decided to shorten the title for some reason. We COULD for alphabetize sake, put Call of Duty in front so it fits with the others. Excalibur01 04:08, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

And I've successfully changed the name Excalibur01 04:10, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Wait, I thought the reason that this was called Modern Warfare 2 was because Infinity Ward no longer wanted to make any more WWII related games and as such gave the "Call of Duty" moniker to Treyarch. Modern Warfare is supposedly now a separate series from Call of Duty. Markit

Modern Warfare is its own series now and isn't a CoD game anymore.-S&Wshooter 04:39, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Or we could make a new "Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2" page which bring it here.--PhantomT1412 08:12, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2--PhantomT1412 08:19, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Actually, this game is still being published by Activision that published the previous game. It is STILL apart of the Call of Duty franchise, they just chose to officially call this game just Modern Warefare 2. Excalibur01 08:33, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Keep it modern warfare 2, but link them together, like GM did linking all the dirty harry movies together.

Taskforce 141 = Rainbow Six

A multinational commando unit? The moment I read that, I immediately thought Rainbow and well we really can't complain what kinds of weapons these guys uses since they are a fictional unit like Rainbow so they can use whatever they want. Excalibur01 21:18, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

I was expecting the task forece to be from the UN. That would be cool.-Oliveira 21:35, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

But if they say they are are UN taskforce makes the team sound kinda...pointless Like the UN does anything. Excalibur01 21:39, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

I though Rainbow Six was a UN Task Force? Anyway, a movie or televison series about a UN Uber badass task force that were formed to catch international criminals would be really cool. The problem with the UN is that they try to be neutral and being neutral doesn't do anything. The UN should be reformed to be more of a International police that works against international criminals and make international laws.-Oliveira 21:50, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

More weapons comfirmed

It seems that p90 is making a return and spas 12 will also be ingame http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFKBEQoSpu8

That guy got a lot of the guns wrong and that AUG Hbar looked more like a SA80 to me. And what the hell is up the people thinking that the FAL in the trailer is a AK? It looks nothing like it!-Oliveira 13:00, 6 June 2009 (UTC)