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User talk:Phoenixent
You're right. I failed to notice the difference in size. I guess the feattures did get it wrong, I remember them saying they used 7.62x51mm NATO blanks. - Gunmaster45
- You say you're a film armorer. Can you name a few movies you have worked on? - Gunmaster45
- He's got his IMDB profile linked in his username, Gunmaster. I'm not an armorer myself, but trust me when I tell you that this guy is among the most experienced of them. -MT2008 04:29, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
- I don't have the DVD with the Potato Digger... yet. I'll own all the DVDs soon. And for MT, I wasn't asking him for proof reasons, I just wanted to know. For some reason, it never even phased me to click the link. - Gunmaster45
- I was looking at the movies you've done. You've got a lot of great ones on their. I also noticed you were the armorer for some videogames. I remember MT asking about that, how exactly does that work? This site has a lot of the movies you did listed so feel free to add your knowledge to them. I'll make sure to get that episode one way or another for the Mail Call page (now that I realize you worked on that episode). At one point, I was planning on doing the two Charlie's Angels movies, so your knowledge would help out on the Full Throttle movie. - Gunmaster45
- Someone recently began work on an article for Charlies Angels: Full Throttle but it is still rather incomplete. If you have time your knowledge could really bring allot to the article.
- I was looking at the movies you've done. You've got a lot of great ones on their. I also noticed you were the armorer for some videogames. I remember MT asking about that, how exactly does that work? This site has a lot of the movies you did listed so feel free to add your knowledge to them. I'll make sure to get that episode one way or another for the Mail Call page (now that I realize you worked on that episode). At one point, I was planning on doing the two Charlie's Angels movies, so your knowledge would help out on the Full Throttle movie. - Gunmaster45
Re:Video Games
That does sound pretty annoying. It's a shame that they use all your hard work and still screw up how the guns shoot and reload. I have yet to see a game get it all right. The Rainbow Six: Vegas games are probably the closest to perfection (leave rounds in the chamber, sound changes inside and outside, almost all reload right).
For future reference, label your name after you message someone by using 3 ~ signs. This way others and I don't have to check the history to see it is you. - Gunmaster45
Re:Iron Man CAR-15
I screencapped that movie but MoviePropMaster added that shot. I'll change it as soon as I finish adding my string of shots to Mail Call. - Gunmaster45
M60E1
I'll be damned, you're right. I had somehow been told a while back that the M60E1 was the improved variant, but I thought it looked the same. No one had ever corrected me so I assumed it was right. My defense was going to be that We Were Soldiers was a 'Nam movie (where they would use older examples) but I guess they look different. I'm going to have to change a LOT of pages now. If you see any pages with M60s listed as E1s, please help me out and change it. - Gunmaster45
Re: Live Free or Die Hard
That would really be awesome! I notice you just posted the picture of the Titanic 1911 - is that a picture you just took? It looks really great, and I'm happy we have that up now. If you can take photos of the Mark 12s from Live Free or Die Hard, that would be just as well. Also, what kind of lowers were the Mark 12 uppers on in that movie? I'm guessing they were on transferable M16A1 lowers like a lot of the Hollywood M16 variants?
I see you're working on a page for The Shadow. Would you mind if we put a "See Also" section that links to that interview you did back in 2005 on the Silver Heat? -MT2008 02:32, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Your page format
I've noticed your page format is a little different then what we consider "standard". While I have no right to tell you how to make a page, I suggest you use "none" instead of "left" for image destination so the titles don't get all messy (you may notice how they go left and right). And possibly add descriptions because we have a lot of guns and actor pages and linking to them is kind of required on the site (look at some of the other admins. pages and you'll see what I mean. Also, adding gun images to go with the section helps people who don't know what the gun looks like to get a basic view and again, is standard requirement.
Again, it is your choice on how you make your pages but I'm just suggesting you follow format to fit the site. - Gunmaster45
Thanks
(Nice photos you got the other day from our friend. I did not mean to rub you the wrong way last week. We could work better together and put this behind us ) Thanks! Apology Accepted! :) Sorry I didn't respond earlier but I had a last minute gig that I had to run away to for a week. No problem. I must also apologize, one of my hot buttons is any implication that the hard work I do in photography is somehow 'easy' (something which I get from a lot of non-photographers, which just pushes my buttons. I just have to let it slide off my back...). You know what I mean. It's like the people who don't deal with firearms all the time, thinking that getting a full auto gun is just easy and cheap to do, or other things like that. Any way, I take about an 30 to 90 minutes per image to clean it up and post it, but I do my part to get clean shots of the firearms. If you have a chance to check out some of the gun pages, I have put a lot of new pics on alot of the pages. I have already posted about 250 original firearms images and intend to do more. I also heard from Mike that you're one of the best smiths in the biz (well, according to him). That's good since I was asking him about some recommendations for kicking down some work from my neck of the woods. Well good to speak to you :) And I hope you're busy (being that this SAG strike vote thing is killing all of us). :( best regards. MPM
Thanks again for the compliment
It was very appreciated! :) Yes that S.A.G. BS is just so full of crap. I was down talking with Mike P. because I'm doing a movie in April or May that might need more Military stuff than I have. (kinda a 'cloverfield' type of scene with tons of Army guys). He also highly recommended you and your abilities from the first time I walked in the door ;) (something to note, Mike immediately praised you and spoke highly of you! So you gotta be GOOD! ). Hahahaha, I bet you completely recognized the guns from that glass case (from all those movies! :) ) Best of luck on your other work. I have a bunch of non industry or semi peripherally associated work. Next time I have lunch with Syd and Mike I'll PM you to see your schedule! Lunch is always on me. best regards MoviePropMaster2008 08:36, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
Legends of the Fall
Thanks for the correction, I was under the assumption it was a Purdey .577 based on the rounds on his bandoleer. Make sure you don't correct the last picture on the page yet, doing that will cause an edit conflict and screw up all the new stuff I'm adding. By any chance do you know where I could find a pic of this shotgun? - Gunmaster45
Unforgiven
Thanks for the correction, I'm not a pro with shotguns and just followed what was previously listed on the page before hand. Those pictures would be great. I had to do Unforgiven because before I saw Heat, it was my favorite movie. - Gunmaster45
Colt 1903 Pocket Hammer
Thanks for the info. Of course. This model has a hammer. Thanks for the clear up. :) MoviePropMaster2008 21:23, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Winchester 1897
It is prefered you don't save over images with new ones. If the image is a superior picture of the same model, then it is fine, but you don't save over one model with another. Now all the images and pages intenting to use the Trench model 1897 have an image of a Riot model (some of which are still labeled as Trench guns). So for future reference, don't replace an image unless it is the same model, or images on pages get messed up. - Gunmaster45
Re:Appaloosa
I'm afraid I haven't seen Appaloosa but I'll look for it next time I go out. As for the Unforgiven shotgun, I appreciate you finding the image of the shotgun very much, the page needs it. I failed to notice you did have the proper pictures for the Winchester 1897, I just saw the Riot gun linked to pages where I remembered Trench guns being used, but they were indeed Riots. So ingnore what I said. Speaking of westerns, after I finish The Boondock Saints (which I really need to get done soon), I'm going to do the mini-series Lonesome Dove. I also plan to do Young Guns and eventually The Last Days of Frank and Jesse James. But first I have to finish the damn Boondock Saints. - Gunmaster45
- Someone built a page for Appaloosa and it has a nice picture of Viggo with the 8 gauge so I think your picture would work now. - Gunmaster45
Sgt. York
I see you did Sgt. York, which I'm glad to see because that's a famous movie that the site can boast about owning. I have just a FEW more notes to add about proper page format.
- When listing a gun, you see we usually do it like this:
--M1911-- (substituting equal signs)
Sgt. Alvin York (Gary Cooper) guns down six German soldiers with his M1911 pistol.
(PICTURE OF GUN|Caption:Colt M1911 - .45 ACP.)
(Screencaps)
What I mean is link all actors and guns to their appropriate pages by putting double brackets over them (that's why we have actor and gun pages, so the movie pages link to them). With guns, some pages have multiple categories, so linking them properly is prefered. Look at the edit to see how I write this: M16A1 Rifle.
Also, instead of writing "An example of said gun used in film", it is prefered you copy and paste what the image cpation says on its page or write it yourself and keep it basic. Like a 1911 picture could say "Colt M1911 - .45 ACP." This way caliber is listed as is the gun's name. (look at some of my newest pages and see what I mean)
But you have the right to make the pages however you want, it is just prefered you try to follow the site's format closely. Thanks. - Gunmaster45
- Thanks, there are still some users on here who are a little... ignorant of these guidlines. Glad to see you're willing to cooperate. - Gunmaster45
- I'm a little confused what you mean. Can you rephrase that somehow? - Gunmaster45
- BTW, I like your fixs to Sgt. York, but you don't need to link the title, just the info inside. And look at the Luger section, it is prefered you write a paragraph above the images instead of inside the images. The captions are usually used as guidlines so the viewer knows what's happening and when in the film. - Gunmaster45
Re: Mr. & Mrs. Smith 1911
I'm pretty sure it is not a left handed gun, the image is just flipped (look at the DVD cover in which he holds the gun in his right hand, it appears to be properly flipped).
The webiste didn't have any images I could find so I couldn't compare. - Gunmaster45
- I checked out that image and I'm not too sure the lefty gun is right.
Actor Pages
I don't block actor pages and anyone who does seriously takes too much pride in their work. As if an actor page, which is the easiest to make, is going to be destroyed by someone adding info.
In most cases, we protect pages from anonymous users. We see that the most serious people make a profile if they wish to knowledgabley add to the site. One too many anonymous users gave us garbage and trolled so we got sick of it. It usually isn't a concern but when I make a 40+ page, it is a pain to remove the dumb comments and such in a maze of information. So if we block the anonymous, the serious make profiles and the trolls move on. If they make profiles to continue trolling or saying dumb things, we ban them.
If anyone of the admins. blocks a page for sysop only access that doesn't need it at all, I'll have a talk with them. Only our profiles and rules pages need that protection. - Gunmaster45
Chamelot Delvigne Model 1873
You overwrote a net based image of the 1873 gun that I uploaded. Normally this is standard practice, since the replacing shot is much higher quality than the replaced image. I was just wondering. The original shot was of a blued revolver. Your replacing shots is of a revolver that's either 'in the white' or a different finish. Wouldn't it be better to have both images to show the different finishes?MoviePropMaster2008 08:12, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
Actor pages
I noticed you put in a lot of actors pages from classic films which is good since I don't even have those movies that you've listed, but when you're screencapping the movie pages, could you get a good facial recognition screenshot of the actor for placement on the actor's page? Some of the actors I don't know and since I don't have those films I can't put up a decent shot which shows their faces. I usually screengrab a good shot of an actor or actress that is not a gun pic since when we're all doing gun pics, we always focus on whether the gun is clear in the shot, rather than the person. Anyway, that would be really cool if you did that. Thanks again. MPM2008
Mauser
I didn't add the Mauser 98 entry. Someone else did it when I was updating the other Mauser pictures (so the history of the page looks like I did it when I was actually updating something else). As for my opinion, I'm with you. the Gewehr 98 and the Karabiner 98 should have their own pages since they are classic Mauser and way more famous than all the Mauser variants. I am going to remove the entry and put it as a footnote or a note in the summary. this page is for all of the 'forgotten' Mausers and also a guide to identifying them when we see them. Don't know if you noticed, but if you click on the image and click again, you'll see the picture at 1200 pixels wide. These are probably the biggest images of these Mauser variants on the web and can help non-Mauser experts see the details (I'm NOT a Mauser expert) but I will try to get pristine images of each variant that is listed on the page. best regards MoviePropMaster2008 07:39, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
Machine Pistol Category?
I just saw you created a category for Machine Pistols, isn't that a bit redundant? I mean, don't machine pistols fall into the Submachine Gun category? I know it's a bit controversial in some gases (such as the Glock 18 for example), but it just seems a bit unnessicary to me. Orca1 9904 21:28, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
In the Line of Fire Llama
Okay, I had no clue what I was writing when I did that, I was a total amateur when I added those pics. I have plans to add screencaps to that page at some point, Rafa was a little non-thorough. In fact, I plan to have a Clint Eastwood period, where I cap every Clint movie I own (and I own a LOT of them). A picture of the Llama would be excellent. - Gunmaster45
XM16E1
I just saw the picture you uploaded of the XM16E1. Did you take that picture yourself profesionally like MPM does or did you just edit it together with MPM's pics. Either way it looks great. - Gunmaster45
- I don't think he'll mind TOO much as long as editing his pictures doesn't become a new fad among users. IMO the little things make a movie and it is a shame when people fail to notice these things. I'm not very good with helicopters but that's pretty impressive that you guys got real Hueys. I own WWS on VHS, and I might just have to watch it again now. - Gunmaster45
- That's a really nice picture of a LaFrance M16K. I was actually looking for one myself, but Google didn't give me what I wanted. I believe Jackie Chan also used one in Police Story 3: Supercop, so I'll add it to that page. -MT2008 04:08, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
- BTW, speaking of We Were Soldiers, I remember Mike did an interview where he said that CW actually manufactured the AK-47s used by the NVA in the movie. Did you actually mill the receivers yourselves, or did you start with commercially available receivers (i.e. the PT Legend)? -MT2008 04:21, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
Firefly
Thanks, I really love this show. Gone before it's time. I pretty much screencapped every episode. Just need some help IDing some guns. Excalibur01 02:18, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
- Much appreciated. If you don't mind, take a look at my other pages and see if there needs correcting. And don't be afriad to change entire section titles for the correct one Excalibur01 05:42, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
Re:Lois and Clar: The New Adventures of Superman
I wasn't sure if it was miss-spelled or not, I'll fix it Steve. - Gunmaster45
XM16E1 Photo
Thanks! for the note on the XM16E1. It was appreciated. Well I am back from a pretty tough assignment (14 hour days and nothing but grief) Actually I didn't know who did what on the franken guns. I was not really paying attention for months to the m16 page and only concentrated on the AP74 22 clones at the bottom. I didn't even know that some guy (Kin93) out of Hong Kong had made so many franken guns out of my pics. But after a really BAD week (which I will go into on a general note later) I scanned up on the M16 page and saw literally a bunch of Franken M16 pics. It wasn't so bad, in just it was just the topper of a really bad week (where someone in the real world took a custom shotgun I built, replaced the buttstock, and then showed it off to various art directors as a gun 'HE' built even though I did 99.99% of the work). So it was kinda just the straw that bent (not broke! :) ) the Camel's back for that time. I KNEW I had to take a break, and I sure felt better when I put a stop to the 'picture requests'. like a weight was taken off my back. (Also I was getting a little TOO wound up over the wave of new anonymous/newbie users whose gun knowledge is only airsoft/Video Games making wrong edits on all the pages. It was bound to happen and is the risk we all take on an open wiki page. Anyway THANKS for the note. If you don't mind, I will try to build up a gun (I have a chromed bolt carrier somewhere) and actually do the pic. I am now motivated to photograph real versions of the Franken guns, also so that we (IMFDB) don't get accused of 'creating virtual/fictional weapons' on the Internet.) Hope you've been doing well. best regards MPM
Colt 1903
I deleted that page once now, someone brought it back again? I'll delete it once more... - Gunmaster45
LaFrance Specialties M16K Question
Hi Steve, I'm screencapping The Dead Pool right now and one of the assassin's trying to kill Dirty Harry is wielding an AR-15 pistol which I'm pretty is a LaFrance Specialties M16K, except it has a forward assist, unlike the picture you took, which is a slab-side:
Are there versions of the gun that have an A1-style reviever with a forward assist or can you steer me towards what it would be with an A1-reciever? Here's an image I just made:
I'll probably be done with the page later tonight. - Gunmaster45
- It helps greatly, I'm working on the page now. I'll have it done relatively fast, it is the gun weakest of the DH films. Thanks much. - Gunmaster45
- Thanks! - Gunmaster45
re: Barb Wire
Thanks for the additional info! You should add it to the page.
Also, do you know anything about the P228 from "Barb Wire" (and "Virtuosity"?) Was that another gun that you built at Ellis? -MT2008 21:16, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
- It seems to be gone from my talk page now, but thanks for the info on the P228s. Much appreciated. I knew I had seen that type of laser-control grip before, just couldn't remember the brand name off the top of my head. -MT2008 05:10, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
Collateral
Hi Steve, I have a quick question for you. On the Collateral page, Matt said that the Jericho 941 in the film was the only gun we see used by the club security guard, I'm assuming because he discussed it with you? Anyway, the gun clearly has a different slide design and trigger guard, so I don't think it is a Jericho. Do you have any information on the matter? - Gunmaster45
- Thanks, but no need to hurry over it. Whenever you can find the paper work is fine, I'm patient. BTW, I had so much free time I got FOUR movies ready to upload. They are:
- Any Which Way You Can (one of Eastwood's less macho films)
I took a huge amount of DVDs out of my box tonight! - Gunmaster45
- Thanks, I really appreciate you finding out what guns was used. - Gunmaster45
Winchester 1892
I reverted your upload over my Winchester 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine image because the image you saved over it with is a Winchester 1894 Rifle...
Can you re-upload it again, because I figured if I uploaded it people wouldn't know it is your picture. - Gunmaster45
- No need, I can get the image back for you. - Gunmaster45
RE:Category:Flare Pistol
Done. - Gunmaster45
Widescreen
If it weren't for all the modern movie pages people made with FULL screen DVDs.... sigh... that would be interesting. Also quite a few films were shown wide screen, but only released full screen (some of the lower B movies from the 1990s for example, including movies that I myself worked on). How would we reconcile the tag "released in widescreen" when we can only get FULL screen "Screenshots" for the movie page. best regards and a Happy Easter MoviePropMaster2008 02:12, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
AMT
Fascinating :) I don't profess to be an expert on the AMT. That pistol I photographed is my own gun from blank adapted inventory (which is usually the case with 85% of my gun pics) and I looked at the gun in my hand from several angles, and that screenshot sure looks darker than possible with just lighting. I wonder if the propmasters on set 'subdued' the finish some how with black paint. I know of some people personally who have subdued their Stainless guns because of personal preference. Anyway, I always welcome insider information like that :) the pistol I have is a BACK II, don't know what the Back up I or previous variation is like. :) If you have access to a good historical summary I would love to see it on the Backup gun page :) thanks and best regards. MPM
PS. It's funny. I have a lot of these guns but I don't catch the tell all details that enable someone to Identify it. Only when someone IDs the gun I pull it out of the vault and look at it from different angles (which is really helpful) and sure enough, it's THAT gun (something I should have known but didn't notice). Anyway, for any other page as well, feel free to pipe in when my eyes misidentify a gun! :)
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Thanks for all the help with weapons IDs! -MT2008 01:28, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
- I have a question about Man on Fire. There's something weird about the Glock 34 used by Denzel. Here's a screenshot taken from Legion's Fate's blog:
- You can see that in this shot, the Glock has a Gen 2-style frame, but in the shots which appear on our page, it has a Gen 3 frame with accessory rails. And Legion's Fate himself also notes that the barrel of this Glock is not ported, which it should be. Plus, I'm not sure the Glock 34 was ever available with the Gen 2 frame (as best I know, it was introduced after the Gen 3 styling had been introduced), so was one Glock 34 a custom job that CW did for the movie, while the other was a standard factory weapon? -MT2008 01:36, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Re: Dukes of Hazzard, The (TV Series)
Thanks! I noticed you made some adjustments and I certainly appreciate the help! I just finished the first two seasons tonight and I'll try and do the rest of the show during the next week or so, so feel free to make any more adjustments you see as you'd be the expert. The show certainly had a lot more guns than I remember, especially considering that the two main characters never handled them at all! Speakeasy804 01:22, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Old movies
For the record, I must say I am delighted that you have become the 'custodian' or 'gate keeper' of classic B&W war and noir crime/gangster films. I don't particularly watch these films myself, so I would never have contributed them, but they ARE an important part of film (and guns in movie) history, and I am happy that you are adding so much rich movie history to IMFDB. MoviePropMaster2008 20:31, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
- I agree with MPM all the way on this, I think your collection of such classic movies is very impressive and great for imfdb! You're very good at identifying the firearms (even if the film's resolution isn't that great, which can really hinder me when I try and work with older films). I noticed you were able to help out on some of my pages like White Heat, but I know there were a few weapons in Little Caesar, The Public Enemy, and Scarface (1932) that I was having trouble with. If you'd ever be able to check those out, I'd greatly appreciate it! I have some other older B&W films I'll be putting on soon (once finals week is over) so you can always feel free to check them out and make any adjustments (I trust your word over mine, I'm certainly no expert!) Thanks for all your great contributions! Speakeasy804 04:12, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
- Great, thanks, I appreciate it! That's an interesting and clever way of ID'ing the images, I wish I could do something like that. And I look forward to seeing your job with the Thin Man series; I haven't watched those in awhile but I remember some of them seemed pretty ahead of their time. Speakeasy804 04:46, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
SAG
Yes, I knew about that. I track Nikki Finke and also get the L.A. Weekly, they seem to have a real pulse on the issue. What I Don't like is how they estimate all of the lost $$ because of the 'lack of signing' of the contract, but the idiots in the press only count ACTOR'S WAGES, not everyone else's! So all of the caterers, art designers, costumers, grips, carpenters, couriers, lighting designers, camera crews, and of course, the rental houses like GUNS or the all important, Armorer ;) ... our lost income isn't counted. If they did, the cost would be immeasureably higher. I love how all of the rest of us in the industry are INVISIBLE. Anyway, Rant OFF ;) MPM2008
CDS
Hi! Thanks for that new Colt Detective Special 3rd Gen picture. Perhaps I can get your opinion on something that's piqued my curiosity...
John and I did some work on a page for the movie Hard Boiled, but we weren't sure what kind of snub-nose revolvers are used by the CID undercover inspectors in the movie. We IDed them as Taurus Model 85s, but do you think they're actually CDS 3rd Gens, like the one you pictured?
Here are John's screencaps:
If I could your opinion really quickly, that would be awesome. Thanks! -MT2008 03:55, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
- OK, thanks, just wasn't 100% sure. -MT2008 20:19, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Re: Lupara
Yes, that would be incorrect if they made a Lupara page. I'm on it... -MT2008 03:43, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
Re:
OK, I moved it. Sorry it took so long to get back to you. That move I mentioned to you a while ago is coming up in a few days, so I've spent this last week (and the week before) trying to do everything in Austin that I never got around to doing earlier. I've had basically zero time for IMFDB. -MT2008 01:31, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
Oh, and one other thing, do you want to help with the page info on those launchers? I don't know too much about them myself, whereas I realize you've probably worked with them quite a bit (since CW were the armorers on T3). -MT2008 01:57, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
Taurus Model 66 in Pulp Fiction
I noticed that on the Pulp Fiction page, you said that the "hand cannon" used was a Taurus Model 66. I just wanted to confirm this since it's a big subject of debate on that page and I just added a few caps today and I want to try and clean the page up and move all the debates to the discussion page. Speakeasy804 00:56, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks; I noticed all the Thin Man pages, they look great! Also, I was curious if the other Pulp Fiction guns were correct, I had basically the same labels as were on before but someone on the page was wondering the MAC-10 was a MAC-11 and the revolver I have labeled as a Smith & Wesson Model 36 appears to be a hammerless model. I'm looking forward to the new B&W contributions! Speakeasy804 00:12, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks again, I greatly appreciate all the help there! Speakeasy804 04:13, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Appaloosa
I finally got Appaloosa, I just watched it (great film) and am going to start screencapping now. I was very impressed by the 8 Gauge, excellent work. In the special features, they talk about it but never credit you as the designer :(. Anyway, I'll be sure to give you the credit you deserve when I revamp the page. - Gunmaster45
- Thanks, I'll try to get the screencaps done too. BTW, was it just me, or did they keep the original gun shot sounds used during filming for the final cut? Usually you hear the standard issue gunfire sound effects but there was something different about this. The guns didn't have the echo like in Heat though. - Gunmaster45