User talk:Kingkolton9

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Black Mesa Source SPAS

The animation for the double fire is this. The wiki is wrong. It is also not mechanically possible to fire the SPAS twice in a row while it's still in in pump-action mode anyway. Evil Tim (talk) 19:20, 23 April 2015 (EDT)

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The wiki is official. If you do not like it, I suggest you take it up with the mod creators.

"It is also not mechanically possible to fire the SPAS twice in a row while it's still in in pump-action mode anyway."

Yes, you can: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrawMKpTscs

The wiki doesn't overrule reality, and I'm not convinced how "official" a claim added to a wiki which seems to have open registration by someone with a grand total of 11 edits is. And you cannot fire two sequential shots from a SPAS-12 in pump-action mode without operating the action between them. I know you can fire it more than once, there wouldn't be much point to having a magazine tube on a shotgun if it didn't use it. Evil Tim (talk) 19:59, 23 April 2015 (EDT)

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Oh, but yes it does. Content that has not been added to the game yet, redesigns, maps, and other info are posted to the wiki and forums before they are put into the game. By the creators, I must add. A good example: The screens above the security guard in Anomalous have been made bigger, the lighting is in the process of being redone, many appliances around the facility are being redesigned, and the game is being ported over to a different version of the source engine (Speculated to be Source 2, because of Black Mesa's NDA with Valve), etc.

"and I'm not convinced how "official" a claim added to a wiki which seems to have open registration by someone with a grand total of 11 edits is."

It's on the project's official website. Although, I am confused as to how someone edits a closed wiki 11 times without registration? But, you can always ask on the forums. If it's on the wiki, the creators will be happy to tell you whether or not it's already in there, planned, or not true, and the community at large are happy to berate you about the wiki.

"And you cannot fire two sequential shots from a SPAS-12 in pump-action mode without operating the action between them"

You cannot do that on any gun that is not automatic. That's teleportation, and if it happens, you should consult a physicist. Preferably one working in New Mexico at a top-secret research facility built on and inside a mesa who is working on teleportation and has used a Spas 12. [/sarcasm]

"I know you can fire it more than once"

Apparently not, "It is also not mechanically possible to fire the SPAS twice in a row while it's still in in pump-action mode anyway."

"there wouldn't be much point to having a magazine tube on a shotgun if it didn't use it."

If you didn't use the tube, where would you put the ammo? Just curious. You know, it's not like we're talking about a video game that's still in development or anything...

Lose the attitude, if you seriously read that as me claiming you can't fire a tube magazine shotgun more than once without reloading it you are assuming I'm an idiot. By "twice in a row" I mean you can't just pull the trigger twice without doing anything else and fire two shots, that should be obvious from context.

You are trying to convince me that a SPAS-12 can fire an ultrafast 2-round burst like it's an AN-94. It cannot do that. You can fire it in semi-auto, that's true, but I've seen videos of Patrick Flannigan unloading 12 rounds from a shotgun in 1.2 seconds and you can still hear individual gunshots and see the weapon recoiling with each individual round fired, which you can't here, it is literally just one sound and one action. To fire it as shown in the game would require you, in the space of a split second, switch it to semi auto, fire one shot, switch it back to pump action as soon as it's cycled (and probably faster than it actually can cycle), and fire another shot, all without actually touching the fire selector.

If the wiki is "closed" as you claim and everyone on it is official, how would any user have so few edits? Seems to me it's a normal wiki that requires registration, rather like this one. I'm not going to take that as meaning the animation in the game shows two sequential shots when it doesn't. If they intended it to show two shots, they failed to do so. Evil Tim (talk) 20:32, 23 April 2015 (EDT)