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Talk:Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare
If we're using words like "resembles" or "based upon" for every entry on a video game page, I'm not certain about its eligibility. Halo and Turok and Monday Night Combat were disqualified under the same criteria. --Funkychinaman (talk) 13:37, 11 June 2014 (EDT)
- How did the Crysis games qualify then? Of course, it's really too early to tell much about AW's guns until closer to release.AgentGumby (talk) 13:44, 11 June 2014 (EDT)
- It's one thing to just change the name, either because you're lazy or you don't want to pay the licensing fees, but it's another to just invent guns. We allow one, not the other. But you're right, it's early. --Funkychinaman (talk) 13:54, 11 June 2014 (EDT)
Just a note, bar the 1911 how would alien resurrection qualify? All of the guns are fictional and not based on anything yet halos rifle is loosely based off f2000 and the sniper rifle a mix of barrett m82 and as50 --Forrest1985 (talk) 12:11, 11 August 2014 (EDT)forrest1985
- There was a debate on the talk page for Alien: Resurrection, but in general, made up guns that physically exists (props) trump made up guns that only exist in video games or animation. --Funkychinaman (talk) 12:36, 11 August 2014 (EDT)
Speaking of...
I'm pretty sure that in the reveal trailer, there was a brief shot of a Beretta ARX-160 and a holstered pistol that resembled the Steyr M9-A1 was also spotted. One of the devs even mentioned a SPAS 12 beign in the game I believe. Because you know, a shotgun that ceased production over 50 years before the game is supposed to be set is still considered relevant in the mid 21st century. --PyramidHead (talk) 16:34, 11 June 2014 (EDT)
Ak12?
Hiya brand new member so hopefully im doing this right? (Fingers crossed).
I wanted your guys opinions but i think the ak in advanced warfare is actually an ak12 not a 74. I have only caught a glimpse of the gas block and front sight from the reveal but im pretty sure its an ak12. The rifle can been seen in the hands of an enemy npc in lagos, Nigeria.
I know that the latest trailer and image on the page shows the bakelite magazine and i cant explain this, but given the advanced timeframe the game takes place in it would make more sense for an ak12 to appear. I have also read that COD games tend to re-skin some weapons from earlier instalments and of course the ak12 was in ghosts, but the 74 has not appeared in any COD game to date.
Also i noticed that the ARX160 appeared briefly in the same trailer, used by a few NPC's,mainly the soldier thrown over the railings.
I am using an iphone and unsure how to post screen-caps, despite reading the tips. If anyone can help i will happily post the images here in the discussion tab.
—Unsigned comment was added by Forrest1985 (talk)
- The thing is that CoD doesn't really care about timelines; as you can see in the Modern Warfare series, the AK-47 was still being used by Russian troops in 2011-2016, despite the weapon having been outdated from more than 50 years ago. By the way the AK-74 appeared in some CoD games, but only in the DS games Modern Warfare: Mobilized and Modern Warfare 3: Defiance. And next time please sign your posts using 4 tildes. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 05:51, 27 June 2014 (EDT)
Well i agree with the comment on the ak47, but i have noticed that since black ops 2 that COD is trying to keep up to date with its firearms. whether that has anything to do with the resurgence of battlefield on consoles who knows. Furthermore my point about re-skinning guns remains valid as the DS games are completely different franchises and not on the main stream consoles. Still convinced its an ak12 but i appreciate that as i cant upload my screen caps i cant justify my view. Sorry about the signing title, very new to the site. Forrest1985 (talk)
Not my picture, though this is definitely an AK-12. http://oi58.tinypic.com/qnk4me.jpg --Lemonificent (talk)
The one at the right appears to be a CZ 805 BREN. Any ideas? --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 18:32, 28 June 2014 (EDT)
- I think that being a CZ might be stretching it honestly. Looks more like a futuristic M4 thing to me. Also in the background, there is some sort of LMG- looks almost like an M60. --PyramidHead (talk) 20:36, 28 June 2014 (EDT)
Not sure on the cz805, but the carry handle and barrel length on the MG look more like a minimi/m249 to me. Plus looks too "handy" to be an m60. The games box cover shows the protagonist carrying what looks like a robinson armaments XCR. Forrest1985 (talk)
The Cz805/m4 weapon is called the ABRa3 according to latest MP reveal trailer, its pickup icon looks more like an ARX160 with an M4 style stock --Forrest1985 (talk) 15:59, 11 August 2014 (EDT)forrest1985
Unidentified/fictional weapons
- Not sure about the pistol, but I think the BAL-27 is a futurised MSBS 5.56B with a P90-style magazine mounted on top of the stock. I'm more interested in just how the hell the IMR rifle is supposed to work, it looks like it's indexing rounds into a tube mag from nowhere. Evil Tim (talk) 09:33, 3 November 2014 (EST)
- The IMR is the Integrated Munitions Rifle. It has an on board 3D printer that prints ammo back into the reserve. That explains part of it... I think it would make more sense for the IMR to put ammo back into the magazine instead of the reserve. --PyramidHead (talk) 16:53, 3 November 2014 (EST)
Ak12
Can we update the Ak74 please? A special custom version of the in-game AK12 has been confirmed by IGN. The Ak12G is part of the zero day pre-order pack. Therefore it stands to reason that a standard version of the ak12 is in game.--Forrest1985 (talk) 15:45, 11 August 2014 (EDT)
The ABRa3 pick up icon looks like an arx160 with m4 stock, but some decent screenshots show that is appears more to be a cz805/scar hybrid like ultimate94ninja said earlier. Check them out yourself at Scar/cz805 hybrid —Unsigned comment was added by Forrest1985 (talk)
MDL
I moved it here. It's a bit of a stretch, starting to skirt Halo territory here. Discuss. --Funkychinaman (talk) 15:52, 18 September 2014 (EDT)
The only part I can see that's definitely from the MGL is the barrel, the body isn't break-open (which at least makes sense, there'd be no need to expose the cylinder if you're using Trounds) and the grip area isn't the same either. I'd say it's more a novel design with the RIS of an MGL stuck over the barrel. Evil Tim (talk) 15:55, 18 September 2014 (EDT)
- Here's a full view of it. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 12:48, 1 November 2014 (EDT)
- Yeah, I mean basically the only common component is the RIS. Finished the game last night and the cylinder is just strange, it's modelled like the cylinder is made of Dardick Trounds but they're not detachable, you just put a rocket-grenade-thing into each so it's just a ridiculously bulky cylinder. I guess they saw the Dardick-style revolver in Human Revolution and liked the look of it but didn't research what they were actually looking at. Evil Tim (talk) 09:28, 3 November 2014 (EST)
