Talk:The Blacklist - Season 1

Unknown submachine gun

A quick guess as to the unknown submachine gun; how about the Armscor BXP? PeeWee055 (talk) 06:24, 4 December 2013 (EST)

I really can't make it out well enough to tell what it is, but a BXP is pretty unlikely for a production not filmed in South Africa. Whilst looking to try and find another shot of it, I found that one of the Wild Bunch carries a Special Weapons MP-10 with an EOTech and suppressor (can best be seen when you see them all in the back of the garbage truck and again when they are moving through the parking garage immediately after the title card), and another has a TDI Vector with an ACOG and suppressor (the last person who gets out of the truck although it is blurry, seen again in the background when Garrick is talking to Red as he starts treating Ressler's leg). --commando552 (talk) 13:53, 4 December 2013 (EST)

The one in the armory looks like a UMP, due to the open front, the other one to me looks like PP2000, don't throw rotten things at me. More likely its a MAC or MP9 or something along those lines, no way its a BXP. The second unknown pistol looks like a rubber prop, the front seems bent, it could be they both are since they are not used, pointed at anyone close to camera etc. --Iceman (talk) 17:08, 4 December 2013 (EST)

I would agree with the UMP one, it also has that similar ramped rear to the front sight. I did briefly wonder if it was an MP-10 with the flashlight hider machined off (have seen this mod and it makes it look a lot like a UMP), but a plain UMP is probably more likely. As for the PP-2000 I did briefly think this as well, particularly with how the supporting grip looks like it is holding a small vertical grip like on the PP-2000. However there are a couple of things that rule it out. Firstly, this is a pretty odd weapon choice as this has only appeared in one film, of Russian origin. To have one show up in a fleeting background role in something filmed in New York seems pretty unlikely. Secondly, if you look at the bottom of the magazine you can see that it has a sort of lip at the bottom, like a UMP mag. Lastly this has a too large an ejection port to be a PP-2000. For both the TMP/MP-9 and the MAC I would say that there is too much receiver behind the ejection port, and in the case of the TMP the ejection port is too large, and as for the MAC this gun is too rounded and doesn't have the slope at the rear of the lower receiver. I can't come up with a match though, am starting to wonder if it is a conventional layout submachine gun that the person is just grasping by the mag well of something like that. --commando552 (talk) 18:14, 4 December 2013 (EST)

I was sure that I saw a Vector too, but it looked too blurry that I thought it wasn't worth the time to get an image of it. Don't know if I can look through the episode again since I'll cap some images in the new episode. Ominae (talk) 20:57, 4 December 2013 (EST)

I'll get a couple of image of them from Part 1 as I know where to look. --commando552 (talk) 04:20, 5 December 2013 (EST)