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I just got the entire season and I'll be working on this in the next week or so Excalibur01 09:12, 22 March 2009 (UTC)


Anyone else notice that the "Ambulance shutle" in Ariel is.. An Mi-24 HIND?

Those were the fiberglass HIND drones that a defense company made in Florida with the intention of selling them or leasing them to the Dept of Defense for training purposes. They were RC controlled FULL SIZED drones of the HIND-D model. They were awesome, but the sudden END of the Cold War eliminated the DOD's interest in them as training tools. The Company went under and a few of the fiberglass models were purchased by Movie Props houses. There was an article in Soldier of Fortune about these very same fake Hind replicas. MoviePropMaster2008 15:38, 19 May 2012 (CDT)


ZOE “Preacher, don't the Bible got some pretty specific things to say about killing?” BOOK “Quite specific. It is, however, somewhat fuzzier on the subject of kneecaps.” Rex095

L85s?

Is it actually possible to tell if the Alliance rifles are A1 or A2 models? Because I seem to recall that the ones in "The Train Job" had no charging handle at all, which is usually the easiest wat to tell the two apart. The Wierd It 21:44, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

It's possible those could be Airsoft replicas. Excalibur01 14:22, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
Whilst it's more than likely that these L85s are Airsoft replicas, there are ways to tell apart A1 and the orrigional A2s (The A2 has since had 2 futher upgrades and is going through another)

The mag-release catch on A2s has a metal cover around it. The safety is more prominant on the A2, and the trigger has a slight re-design. However - due to the date the show was made - these are A1s. No-one made airsoft A2s at this point, because the British armed forces were only just getting the real things back from H&K. User:195.93.21.8

Janes Shotgun

Why is Jaynes shotgun somewhat famous? Am i being a moron cus i dont know what else it is from? Im on about the Ithica.--Captain Snikt 03:39, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Unknown Revolver

Anyone know what the revolver on the right of this picture is? It appears to be break-open, and the barrel doesn't seem angular enough to be a Webley or Enfield. A Schofield of some type maybe? I'm not too good with revolvers.

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Jimmoy 14:11, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

I'd say it was a Webley.

It's large, so I would say Webley Mk VI MoviePropMaster2008 18:44, 19 May 2012 (CDT)

Mals gun

Mals gun is call a "Moses Brothers Self-Defense Engine Frontier Model B" in-universe. Also i Think that name is a mouthfull

That name was given to the gun after the movie by the now defunct prop company that created a licensed replica. QMX. The prop handlers who built the gun called it the oil can gun. QMX is still trading.

Just changed the image on the page from the Serenity gun back to the firefly version.

Para-Ordnance P-10

I removed this one entirely and moved the pics to the Colt Mustang section, no offense intended to anyone, because the weapon is clearly the Mustang. --Charon68 23:33, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank You. (I got tripped up because the article's reference photo shows the 'Government 380 ACP' w/caption 'Colt Mustang 380 ACP'). JimK

Same Star Firestar M-45 from Kill Bill?

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Image with no lens flair showing the extended barrel

They're both custom longslide models and you're not going to see them very often.--Predator20 00:50, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Zoe's Mare's Leg

Was the same prop used by Lord Bowler in The Adventures Brisco County Jr. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventures_of_Brisco_County,_Jr.#Props

I keep seeing this attribution, but I don't think it's accurate. I've seen ABC fairly recently, and can't recall Lord Bowler carrying anything other than an SAA and his preferred weapon, a pistolized side-by-side shotgun. The only mare's leg I remember seeing was used by the female bounty hunter, Crystal Hawks, in the episode of the same name.

I've been watching the episodes recently to try and find where the Mare's Leg was used and Lord Bowler only used the sawed off shotgun as his preferred weapon. --Ben41 02:25, 13 July 2011 (CDT)


SMG used in "Out of Gas"

It isn't an MP40. It's a Belgian Vigneron M2. The longer barrel, front sight, and wire stock by the ejection port give it away. All it takes is just a few more minutes of research... Cozmo 14:47, 18 March 2011 (CDT)

AC556

One of the robbers at the beginning of the episode "Our Mrs. Reynolds" has a Ruger AC556. He strafes the front of the wagon that Mal and Jayne are driving, while disguised as villagers. Don't have the DVD so I can't cap it. MoviePropMaster2008 04:40, 24 October 2011 (CDT)

You mean this one? I'm horrible at this wiki stuff, so I won't make an ass of myself by attempting to add it to the page. The Kaptain 22:49, 24 October 2011 (CDT)
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AC556

Unknown pistol

One of the angry drinkers uses an unknown pistol. Maybe a Smith & Wesson 4506? --Funkychinaman (talk) 13:40, 12 May 2013 (EDT)

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Circled in blue.
Not sure about that, bushing looks wrong for a .45 S&W, either 2nd or 3rd gen. Also the sights are not the adjustable S&W ones, and look like they are too far back for fixed ones. The slide markings with what looks like that round logo are wrong for a S&W, and the slide is also too long for a stock 4506. Although it looks like there is a slide safety, I think that may be an optical illusion as there also appears to be a 1911 style frame safety. My guess is some kind of AMT, but not sure. --commando552 (talk) 17:28, 12 May 2013 (EDT)

More unknowns

It bothers me a bit that I've only seen one episode and yet I still came across three undocumented guns (these two plus the S&W 629 PC.) --Funkychinaman (talk) 03:21, 1 June 2013 (EDT)

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Sheriff Bourne (Gregg Henry) is armed with some sort of carbine. I had initially thought a Sharps, or a Spencer, but it doesn't appear to be either.
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Jayne with what appears to be some sort of a dressed up revolver. Does it show up later?

Jayne's revolver is his LeMat revolver that he uses throughout the series. And the gun on top appears to be a double-barrel shotgun. --Mormonpowerranger521 2:19, 1 June 2013 (MST)

The revolver looks more like the 629 PC to me. Rifle is deffinitely a Remington Rolling Block of some sort though.
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Remington Model 1867 Rolling Block Carbine - .50-45
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It looks a bit short to be a S&W 629 PC. And it looks a lot shorter than Jayne's LeMat. Thanks for the carbine ID. I knew it looked familiar. --Funkychinaman (talk) 04:29, 1 June 2013 (EDT)
I can't really tell the length as it is pretty much head on. I was going by how the front of it looks with that open chamber underneath the barrel to the other pic of the 629 PC, and to me they looked similar. However, on looking at it on a petter computer screen, I think it may be the LeMat as well. It looks like it has a large unfluted cylinder with more chambers than a typical 6 round revolver, and I also think I can see that rib they have put over the barrel. Triger guard also looks like a match for the LeMat. Also, I know that IMDB lists the episodes in this order, but I think we should list them in the intended order rather than the bastardised FOX one. Firstly, the FOX order that IMDB uses makes no sense, with episodes being shuffled around all over the place. I'm gonna guess that 99% of people who have seen Firefly have seen it in DVD form rather than when it originally aired, so I think we should use the real order that is on the DVDs (how it is listed on Wikipedia). Or do VOD providers use the original FOX order as well? Because if so that is ridiculous. --commando552 (talk) 06:33, 1 June 2013 (EDT)
Yes, I struggled with that too. The discs don't bother reshuffling episodes, they just have them in air order. As for the pistol, I'll just keep an eye out. --Funkychinaman (talk) 11:08, 1 June 2013 (EDT)
Are you capping it from a bluray with the episodes in the aired by FOX order then? That surprises me, my British Bluray has them in the intended order, which makes a hell of a lot more sense. --commando552 (talk) 14:14, 1 June 2013 (EDT)
It's the Region A Blu-Rays. I'll check again. --Funkychinaman (talk) 21:59, 1 June 2013 (EDT)
Looks like you're right. Whoops. --Funkychinaman (talk) 22:12, 1 June 2013 (EDT)


Jayne's (Adam Baldwin) Guns

Need ID'ing (all of them)

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Ruger MkIII, Jericho 941 w/ a stainless finish, some FABARM shotgun, I think that the closest handgun is a Springfield XD, one of his many shotguns is a Winchester 1300.

The farthest gun, based on the muzzle break thing looks like VERA to me. The closest gun, to me, looks like a Ruger semi-auto. A p-89 maybe. I also see a Ithaca stakeout with a pistol grip in there.

My guess on these closest to farthest is a Browning BDA, two tone Jericho 941, Ruger Mk III, FABARM FP6, Mossberg 590 mariner with a top folding stockm Winchester 1200/1300, the Savage in the Choate stock, Vera, and then I guess the one against the wall is the Ithaca he uses. Where do you see the stakeout? --commando552 (talk) 05:12, 17 October 2013 (EDT)
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Wildey Magnum, a Mossberg Persuader of some sort, A Blaser R93, 37mm Tru-Flite Police Tear Gas Gun appears again in the centre, I think I see a Smith and Wesson 629 Performance Center model,

I don't think that is a Blaser, I think it is a Ruger 10/22 in a custom stock (a "Zero Shark" I think). There is also the Goncz pistol and carbine in there, along with a Magnum Research Lone Eagle (the kind with no handguard) that is fitted with some kind of boxy barrel shroud. I think the bottom pistol that is mostly cut off could be a Smith & Wesson 4563, but not sure. --commando552 (talk) 05:35, 17 October 2013 (EDT)
On second look, I don't think that is the Goncz pistol seen in another episode, but rather a Claridge Hi-Tec with a non-finned muzzle extension. --commando552 (talk) 05:48, 17 October 2013 (EDT)
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Savage with a Choate stock?

Heart of Gold

In the heart of gold episode I believe I saw one of the brothel wielding a Winchester 100 for a brief second when they fired there first volley can anyone id?--Balin21 (talk) 05:19, 17 October 2013 (EDT)

Unknowns from "Bushwhacked."

I found two unknowns in "Bushwhacked" (S01E03). --Funkychinaman (talk) 18:58, 17 October 2013 (EDT)

Jayne loads an unknown revolver before he and Simon go aboard the derelict. It's not his LeMat, since there's a swing-open cylinder. Rossi Model 971?

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Thick this is a Dan Wesson Supermag with an 8" compensated barrel. Can't find a page worthy pic of this configuration though. --commando552 (talk) 19:32, 17 October 2013 (EDT)
This'll do for now:
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Dan Wesson Supermag - .455 Super Magnum
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Thanks. --Funkychinaman (talk) 19:52, 17 October 2013 (EDT)

Commander Harken's (Doug Savant) two-tone Beretta turns into another pistol in a continuity error. At first I thought it was a Jericho 941, but the barrel looks wrong.

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Jayne's guns from "Bushwhacked"

Have at it. #3 looks like a Tru Flite 37mm Super Long Range Gas Gun. --Funkychinaman (talk) 19:52, 17 October 2013 (EDT)

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  1. is that Magnum Research Lone Eagle with a cosmetic barrel shorud.
  2. is a modern derringer repro, my guess is an American Derringer Model 1
  3. is a Tru Flite
  4. is a LaserAim Series III
  5. is a SAA "Quick-Draw"
  6. is an AKMSU (I think, looks like the mag is too curved for a 5.45x39mm)
  7. is a COP 357 Derringer
Also, did you spot the Sterling with the forward pistol pistol grip on the far right? You can just make out the magazine well and pistol grip to the right of the SAA. --commando552 (talk) 20:13, 17 October 2013 (EDT)
This is the model of Magnum Research Lone Eagle that 1 is based on:
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Magnum Research Lone Eagle - .45-70 Govt
Don't know what the stock is indicative of though (as in earlier/later or just an option). --commando552 (talk) 20:20, 17 October 2013 (EDT)
The LaserAim looks like a stunt prop. I thought it might be a Sterling too, but this was the best shot I could get. --Funkychinaman (talk) 20:27, 17 October 2013 (EDT)

Ugh

Really, they couldn't hire ONE Mandarin dialect coach? This is painful. --Funkychinaman (talk) 18:49, 24 October 2013 (EDT)