Talk:Terminator Salvation

bullets work on robots in this movie? That's a new thing. Every movie we see humans shoot these toasters with bullets, they just bounce right off. Unless the humans in this movie are using some new kind of bullets, or the guns are just props for "plasma" weapons

Connor's rifle

I don't think it's a 416. Take a closer look at that promotional still. The rifle has flip-up sights that the 416 doesn't have. Unless there were a modification added, but I think it's just a regular M4 with a full rail on top.

i agree look at the barrel lug, that screams M4.

and because somebody is gonna come around bitching heres some proof. look at the barrels.

H&K 416 http://world.guns.ru/assault/as75-e.htm

Colt M4A1 http://www.imfdb.org/images/e/ed/ColtM4.jpg

I could be wrong, but when I was looking at the .PNG, i saw what looked to be part of an H&K Safety/Fire Selector. I don't ever recall seeing that type of fire selector on an M4A1, and i don't think it was a piece of debris either, as what I saw was a white rectangle aligned with the reciever

Its definitely an HK416. The selector switch is painted white where it should be. You can also see the gas block is correct for an HK416 even though the flashlight is partially in the way. Seems like too much work for it to be simply a custom m4.

It could be a barrett m468

First off, why the hell does everyone start thinking a "cool" looking rifle is a Barrett REC7 all the time? I've seen plenty of that here. I have yet to see a movie or TV series that shows Barrett REC7 outside of Future Weapons. Excalibur01 05:45, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

And yes it is a 416, I took a closer look at the selector switch. I guess they gave the one used by Christian Bale, a longer barrel and swapped out the sights for those we see. Looking closer, the rails fit the kind H&K uses for the 416. Excalibur01 05:45, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

You guys DO also know that HK manufactures a 416 upper receiver for the M4, right?

Yeah, it's the same 416 upper reciever for all the H&K 416s. It was proposed that to cut down cost for the military to adopting the 416, they just buy the upper reciever, which can easily slap onto any M4. Excalibur01 00:32, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Another Reason it cannot be an M468 is that it is lacking the M468's signature SIR handguard. Without it the gun is again put into question whether it is really an HK416 instead of the M468.

Jeez, this is messy, someone cut and paste all this into "discussion", I'm sure when people open this page they don't want to just see some big argument cluttering up the page - User:AdAstra2009

Done. But it's not like cutting and pasting arguments into the Discussion section is something you couldn't have done. -MT2008 05:15, 4 January 2009 (UTC)