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Talk:Battle of Warsaw 1920
Several questions
Model 17 Stielhandgranate
Are you sure that it is Model 17? It seems to me that this is Model 24, as in every other movie with German grenades. I doubt that a real Model 17 could survive until 2011. Yes, O. K. But aim is perhaps to inform the viewer what weapons the his heroes to used in historical reality. I write about it here - All Quiet on the Western Front (1979)--Pandolfini 00:28, 14 May 2012 (CDT)
- I cannot agree. If we see Browning Hi-Power in 1920 we say that this is anachronistically used Hi-Power and don't say that this is a Model 1903, right? So if a Model 24 grenade is used, we say that a Model 24 is used in the movie though it stands for Model 17. I think so. Greg-Z 02:20, 14 May 2012 (CDT)
In the Browning Hi-Power to see at a glance, so I can blame. Otherwise, the presumption of innocence applies everywhere, right? Accuse the filmmakers of anachronism by blurred shot? It was there that I can write it straight, it's not a grenade, but the sand full dummy :)--Pandolfini 02:52, 14 May 2012 (CDT)
- A Model 17 doesn't need to survive. It's very easy to make custom props.Chitoryu12 00:51, 14 May 2012 (CDT)
- Of course. But I doubt that any movie maker would make such props when there are plenty dummy Model 24s. And the grenade on the screenshot looks more like Model 24. But I don't insist if you are completely sure that this is Model 17. Greg-Z 02:20, 14 May 2012 (CDT)
One more MG
I have found in Internet a screenshot from the movie:
This light MG is most likely based on Czech Vz. 59 which is disguised as MG08/15.
I think that it is definitely a Czech Vz. 59. Also if there are no objections as I mentioned earlier I have been trying to clear up the spelling and grammar on the page and will continue to do so. --6pulkpancerna 18:51, 13 May 2012 (CDT)
Thx very much. And this?--Pandolfini 06:15, 14 May 2012 (CDT)
BA-27
The armored car which is "playing the role" of Soviet BA-27 (which, in turn, didn't exist in 1920) is a modern replica of Polish Vz.34.
I am just trying to fix a lot of the spelling mistakes on this page.
- - Greg-Z 14:44, 13 May 2012 (CDT)
Thx for all repair.--Pandolfini 06:20, 14 May 2012 (CDT)
Unidentified MG
It will help someone identify what kind of light machine gun?
- Chauchat. The barrel looks a little long so it could be a modern replica. Greg-Z 03:56, 14 May 2012 (CDT)
And it's not by chance the model Vz. 59?--Pandolfini 06:02, 14 May 2012 (CDT)
The problem with identifying a rifles
After regaining independence, the Polish Army were armed with Mosin1891, Mannlicher M1895 and Mauser M1898. Along with the "Blue Army" soldiers French rifles appeared ( Berthier and Lebel ). But also Lee Enfield and Japanese Arisaka! Especially those last two I can not distinguish between them, so it is possible that the hero has not in his hand Enfield, but that is a Japanese rifle :)
- Arisaka rifles were purchased in Japan by Russian army in 1914-15. In 1917-18 when the old Russian army collapsed, its weapon including Arisaka rifles came in hands of the armies of Poland, Finland and other new states. So Arisaka in this movie is historically correct. Greg-Z 06:47, 14 May 2012 (CDT)