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Predator (1987)

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The following guns were used in the film Predator









AR-15/SP1

Billy (Sonny Landham) and Dutch (Arnold Schwarzenegger) are prominantly seen armed with AR-15/SP1 slab-side M16 rifles fitted with M16A1 birdcage muzzle flash suppressors to apear more modern (they are likely AR-15/SP1s over genuine M16s, converted to full-auto by the armorers for the film). Dutch's AR-15/SP1 is fitted with an Fake M203 Launcher and a perforated forend typical for the M203, while Billy's AR-15/SP1 is fitted with a Mossberg 500 shotgun and M16A2 foregrips. These particular SP1 rifles are clearly fitted with blank adapters (which are visible sticking beyond the muzzle, out into the flash hider), which means they were real guns converted to fire blank rounds. Many other guns in the movie also have these adapters visible.

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AR-15/SP1 with M203 grenade launcher - 5.56mm and 40mm. (edited from two of MPM2008's pictures)
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AR-15/SP1 with A2 handguards and A1 bircage muzzle break - 5.56x45mm. (edited from two of MPM2008's pictures)
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Dutch armed with his AR-15/SP1 fitted with a fake M203 launcher.
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Dutch with his AR-15/SP1.
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Dutch trades his AR-15/SP1 for a pair of binoculars when scouting the Guerilla camp.
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Dutch fires his SP1 rifle at the Guerillas.
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Billy armed with an SP1 rifle, yet his Masterkey shotgun is missing in this shot.
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Dutch with his SP1 rifle.
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Dutch with his SP1 rifle.
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Dutch helps chop down the forest with his SP1.
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Dutch reloads his SP1 rifle.
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Dutch with his SP1.
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"RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNN!"
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MGC M16 Replica Rifle.
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The Predator blasts Dutch's SP1 in half with its Shoulder Cannon. This appears to be an MGC replica hence the mock forward assist.

Fake 39mm M203 Launcher

Fitted on Dutch's AR-15/SP1 is a Fake M203 Launcher with a 39mm bore diameter. This particular faux launcher was popular at the time before the Cobray launcher was produced and was used in several other '80s movies, including Heartbreak Ridge. Gun gun is innacurately seen capable of detonating its rounds at close range, yet real M203 rounds have a safety device in which they must spin for a certain amount of time before detonating, giving it a range limit. Dutch later uses his spare 40mm rounds (which actually don't fit his launcher) to make explosives to face the Predator.

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M16A1 fitted with a fake M203, this is an IMP Cobray 37mm flare launcher, which is not the same device, but close - 37mm Flare.
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Dutch fires his fake M203 launcher at the Guerillas. Note how the SP1 rifle has a blank adapter protruding from the barrel into the muzzle break.
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Dutch with his SP1/Fake M203.
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Dutch takes out a helicopter with his fake M203 at a far too short distance. Also, when he fires the gun, a considerable amount of smoke exits the muzzle...
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...yet as the chopper blows up, no smoke is visible.
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Dutch takes out his two 40mm rounds, which don't actually fit in his fake M203.
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Dutch dumps the powder out of the 40mm round to make explosives.

Mossberg 500

Billy's AR-15/SP1 is fitted with a Mossberg 500 underslung under the barrel. While never seen firing the shotgun in the film, he is seen pumping it closed after the men cut down the forest with weapons fire, implying he had been firing it during that scene. In the original screenplay, Billy's SP1 rifle was to be fitted with an M203 launcher. During the helicopter scene, he was to be seen opening and closing the breech repeatedly. Since the fake M203 launchers don't open in such a matter, I guess someone decided to change it to a Mossberg 500 shotgun (although they seemed to have forgotten the helicopter scene).

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Mossberg 500 - 12 gauge.
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Billy with his SP1 rifle fitted with a Mossberg 500 shotgun.
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Billy with his SP1/Mossberg 500.
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Billy with his SP1/Mossberg 500.
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Close up of Billy's Mossberg 500.
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Billy's with his SP1/Mossberg 500 before carelessly tossing it away to face the Predator hand-to-hand.

M60E3

An M60E3 machine gun is carried by Sgt. Mac (Bill Duke). Like the gun in Commando, this M60 appears to hav a professionally shortened barrel. They actually could be the same gun supplied by Stembridge Gun Rentals.

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M60E3 Machine Gun - 7.62x51mm NATO.
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Sgt. Mac with his M60E3.
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Mac fires his M60E3 at the Guerillas.
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Mac with his M60E3.
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Mac with his M60E3.
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Note how a blank adapter is visible on Mac's M60E3.
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"SEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAARRRRGEEEEEEEEAAAAAANNNNNNT!"
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Mac with his M60E3.
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Mac fires his M60E3 at the Predator.

GE M134 Minigun

Nicknamed "Ol Painless", a hand-held M134 Minigun is the main weapon of the movie carried by Blain (Jesse Ventura). It has been modded for Commando use with an M60 handguard and a rear pistol grip. The weapon was powered by an electric cable hidden in the actors trousers and fired reduced power 7.62 blank rounds to ease the recoil force. It is believed in real life a similar weapon was tested by US special forces in the 1970s but found impractical(This statement is false, anyone with the least bit of knowledge about this weapon system would know that a soldier cannot fire a multi barreled 7.62mm machine gun). Although rumoured to be an XM214 'Microgun' which fires the smaller 5.56mm NATO rounds, It is the larger M134 hence the barrel cluster. The gun is operated in the movie also by Mac shortly after Blain's death. A second minigun can be briefly seen door-mounted on one of the Hueys that the Commandos ride to their insertion point in the jungle.

An interesting note, after Mac fires the Minigun and chops down half the forest, he claims he fired off 200 rounds, a full pack. With what Blain and Mac had fires combined, it is more like 2000 rounds.


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Blain firing the Minigun during the battle with the guerillas
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Another shot.
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After witnessing the death of Blain, Mac picks up the massive weapon and attempts to kill the Predator.

Heckler & Koch MP5A3

The MP5A3's are the mainstay weapons of the rest of the squad. Blain (Jesse Ventura), Poncho (Richard Cheves), Hawkins (Shane Black) and Dillon (Carl Weathers) all carry them. The weapons are distinguishable by their slightly curved buttstocks. Ponco keeps an MP5A3 slung in a back poach, along with his grenade launcher. Apparently they were originally civilian HK94 carbine rifles with 16" barrels cut down and modified to full-auto fire by the armorers of the film. They can be noted based on the lack of a paddle mag release, a lugged barrel, and a push pin set.

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MP5A3 with stock extended - 9mm
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One of the many MP5-A3's carried by the members of the commando team. This one carried by Blain (Jesse Venture) right after the arrival to the jungle.

M18A1 Claymore

The commandos can be seen using M18A1 Claymores several times in the film; first as part of the defense perimeter when camped out for the night after Blain is killed, then when Dutch orders the other commandos to make a stand against the Predator in the jungle.

The pistols

It can be easily spotted, that at least Dutch, Mac, Dillon and Billy carry handguns of unknown type in shoulder holsters. None of these are ever used, however Dillon's holster is different to the rest in the way that it is an old US army black leather "Enger Kress pistol holster" usually meant for the Colt M1911A1 pistol. Therefore it is logical to assume that at least Dillon was carrying a Colt with him. Look carefully at Billy's shoulderholster just before he finds the skinned Green Berets - the holstered pistol appears to be an IMI .44 Desert Eagle.

Also, the guerilla girl by the name of Anna (Elpidia Carrillo) can be seen pointing a pistol of some sort (possibly a Walther PP or PPK) towards Dutch at the end of the attack against the guerilla base.

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Anna's pistol seconds before she is disarmed of it.

Guerilla weapons

The jungle guerillas engaged by Dutch's commando team carry only a few sorts of firearms. Aside from the yet again unknown pistol used by a guerilla to execute the POW, AKM's are mostly seen. One type of light machine gun used by the guerillas is the Valmet M78/83. The M78 has an RPK style 'clubfoot' stock, whereas the M78/83 was the version of the Valmet Light Machinegun that came with a black synthetic "Dragunov style thumbhole stock" and was the variant used in Arnold's previous film Commando..

It is first seen when Mac and Blain are infiltrating the camp. Later on one can be seen in the middle of the guerilla base during the fighting. The weapon does resemble an RPK light machine gun a lot, but has a different muzzle brake, front sight assembly, and other structural differences to distinguish it from the the RPK.

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AKM 7.62x39mm
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Valmet M78 7.62x39mm with high-capacity ammo drum and standard magazine
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Valmet M78/83 # 1
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Valmet M78/83 # 2
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Also a Valmet M78/83 # 1
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Also a Valmet M78/83 # 2

Custom 37mm Launcher

A custom launcher built specifically by the armorers is used by Poncho. It is built from H&K MP5A3 parts(mainly the stock and pistol gips) and uses parts ftom an AN-M5 aircraft pyrotechnic discharger (a 37mm flare launcher).

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Additional weapons

Dutch can also be seen wearing a few M67 Grenades on his vest at the beginning. These grenades are also thrown around by the various commandoes during the raid to the guerilla base. Satchel charges are also used by Dutch to blow up a pickup truck after he manages to make it fall through a wall and right into a small gathering of the guerillas.