I think the sight we see on the spetsnaz` AK in the cave is the KOBRA Collimator sight, wich can be purchased today.
Excellent work with the page, it came out great. Thanks for adding his knife and bow, I appreciate it. I also like the trivia section at the bottom. -GM
Do you like the few shots I added? -GM
thanks for the deleted scenes, I don't have them on my DVD. FYI, I don't like the M203 shot that you replaced my shot with. Though it shows him firing, it is blurrier than my shot and I posted the previous shot to get a clearer view of how the weapon was mated together. I'm reverting it back. Also thanks for the RGD-1 grenades, but I've already uploaded the files but haven't had time to do the section yet. Great shots of the Knife and bow! I did have some shots of from the grenade 'field' but yours had better color so I ended up not using mine.
I should have asked before I changed the M203 shot. Your right, yours was better. Sorry I stole your grenade section.
It should be noted that while the armourers uses MISRs because authentic Russian weapons were unavailable, they are correct for the Mujahideen because Egyptian rifles were supplied to the Mujahideen by the United States.
The MISRs were identical to the Soviet AKM. Since they could easily have been equipped with captured AKMs from the puppet Afghan communist troops this is a non issue. Armorers in the US used ARMs (which was the U.S. imported named of the Egyptian MISR). We should NOT call it an MISR because later, just before the CLINTON BAN, cheaply made crap rifles CALLED the MISR were imported and were not on par with the original ARMs (AKMs). MoviePropMaster2008 15:15, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
-Actually Norinco made a copy of the M203 40mm grenade launcher to be used with AK type weapons. As does Romania. So this setup is believable -Spectre85
No it is ridiculous ... since the weapon is supposed to be RUSSIAN, not Chinese (since the weapon was taken off of a Spetnaz Sergeant) and the Russians never used M203 or clones of the M203 during this time period. Also I've never heard of a Norinco M203 so please furnish a link or something to prove this. This is very intriguing information.
It's still ridiculous because it's anachronistic. None of these M203 rip off clones were made in the 1980s when the film was shot and set. So the set up is ridiculous. MPM2008
Did'nt the Mujahideen use captured AK's with a M203 attached? Obviously supplied by the CIA with GL's ammo, and the rifle ammo they scrounged for. I do vaguely remember an abs model kit version with wooden stock AK & M203GL that was available in the mid 1980's.
I collected all the ABS kits from the 1980s and I think you're remembering something which did not exist. As for the CIA, except for the Stingers, all the small arms they supplied were Soviet in design.
- As far as the multiple shots from the M203, Rambo picks up at least two grenades from the sand after defeating Sgt. Kourov. With one already chambered in the launcher, he could have three or four shots. He is seen reloading it when he and Trautman are taking cover in the ditch.
I think the loading scene is the FIRST grenade. He never reloads after the battle starts, of course this could have been edited out or not shot. There is another scene mentioned in the film where Rambo picks up an enemy gun and the shot was removed by the editor and makes it look like Rambo magically as a new rifle. MPM2008
T-64
Based on the Western-style fume extractor I suspect the tank is an Israeli Ti-67 with a 105mm gun vice a true T-64, same as was used on The Beast.
Wrong. It's a T-62. Sure they may have added on some mods, but it's NOT a T64. The the Ti-67 from the Beast is a modified T-55, not a 62.
Also, the FN MAG isn't really missing the butt, that's the correct configuration when firing from a mount. The butt comes off and you just attach the rear plate.
By the way, the Soviet army used in Afghanistan, the only type of tank - T-62. All references to the T-72, T-64 or any other types of tanks are wrong. Slow Rider 20:19, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
Since the page is locked I can't add this
I've seen photos showing the slit in the survival knife was originally intended to accomodate an extremely silly "wing blade" accessory that never made it into the movie; I could probably find one if there was any chance of it being added. Vangelis 10:16, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
I guess originally the Soviets were going to make Rambo fight a Klingon or something. Evil Tim 08:50, 20 April 2011 (CDT)
Also, apparently the T-72 is built on the running gear of a surplus US Army M8A1 Cargo Tractor, which in turn was based on the M41 Walker Bulldog chassis. The fake ZSU, there's contradictory information about whether it was built on a second M8A1, an M41, or a Sheridan. Evil Tim 00:31, 29 June 2011 (CDT)
It ain't no Sheridan (not even close) and it isn't a M41 Walker either. Check it out. SIX lower bogey wheels. The M41 has only FIVE and the Sheridan has no smaller upper bogey wheels at all. The M8A1 matches the best in both cases. MoviePropMaster2008 01:42, 29 June 2011 (CDT)
Just checked the Red Dawn page and fixing it. They're both M8A1 Cargo Tractors.
Just a note about the info at the top of the page about the production, Pete Wilson was A U.S. Senator at the time, not a California state senator. --AndCA 17:46, 9 September 2011 (CDT)
