Talk:16 Blocks

20 year old Spartan?

So in the context of this film (which I have not seen), a gun is 20 years old, thus it's considered surprising that it fires? WTF? A gun is not like a perishable fruit or something like that. Also the Spartan was made by Baikal for Remington, thus it can't be 20 years old. 20 years ago, there was still a Soviet Union and Baikal is a Russian manufacturer. I just found this statement funny... MoviePropMaster2008

I wouldn't go and shoot a gun that had been sitting around unfired and without maintenance for a couple years.-S&Wshooter 04:00, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

There are tons of weapons throughout households in the United States, which are oiled, put away in a safe for years that are just fine. What maintenance do you need? It's not like it's a CAR you drove 100K miles. I sure wouldn't hesitate to use a gun that was 20 years old if it looked okay. Like I said before, it's not like guns are perishable items like fruit. And yes, I own hundreds of guns that I have not fired in at least 20 years. There is nothing wrong with them.  :) MoviePropMaster2008 09:30, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

If I had to shoot it I would clean it 1st-76.31.5.208 11:43, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

And what if it was put away in a humidity controlled safe already cleaned and oiled? Doing a safety check is always recommended, but I need to put to rest this misconception that guns somehow become magically unsafe when stored for years in a clean, dry environment. They don't. I just recently pulled a Winchester Model 1200 that had been in a climate controlled vault (dust free) since 1989, I looked at it, threw it in a gun rug and took it to the range. Guess what? It shot FINE. MPM

Turns out I goofed when I made the original description; Willis' character actually said the SHELLS loaded in the gun were over 20 years old, not the gun itself. Using old ammo can be a rather dicy proposition. Orca1 9904 20:39, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

At the risk of dredging up an old argument, 20 years isn't that old for ammo. I've shot ammo from 1934 without incident. - Nyles

I was thinking. 20 years from the release of this movie would put you in the mid-80's, a time where paper shot shells were still pretty well used. Paper shot shells sitting in a shotgun under a bar, which isn't the best of conditions make Willis's statement reasonable.- Damocles1

Would it be possible to get some much bigger pictures for this article? Or make the existing ones bigger? I think it's a shame they're so small. --ManiacallyChallenged 21:05, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

I think we got of subject. He originally stated that the gun is said to 20+ years old, when the gun was manufactured by a Soviet factory when America and the Communists in Russia were not exactly on friendly terms, so unless it is meant to be an American made gun (and the movie makers didn't really care who made it), the shotgun should'nt be there. - Kilgore 21:55, 14 September 2010 (UTC)