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Talk:Smith & Wesson Model 36 / 38
Other variants of the Model 36 / 38 / 49
Nickel vs. Stainless
There seems to be some confusion in this article, since two of the images of nickel-plated variants are actually stainless variants. Aside from the significant difference in the appearance of the finishes, you can look at the trigger and hammer, both of which are of a stainless appearance on older Smith stainless handguns.
Model 36 vs. CDS
How does this weapon match up against the Colt Detective Special? The most obvious difference is the Detective Special's 6 shot capacity as opposed to the 36's 5, but are their other advantages the Colt has or does the S&W have benefits that outweigh the Detective Special's capacity advantage? -Anonymous
- - I'm a bit Smith & Wesson biased myself. Still, objectively speaking, I myself (I had to choose between the two) would have chosen the 36 over the earlier DS because of Smith's ejector-rod socket (I never like fully-exposed ejector rods myself, they look goofy and are a very wee bit of a snag and damage hazard). However, later DS's have shrouds, so that problem is solved. Other than that, I'd have to say that the 5-shot J-frame Smith is probably slightly smaller (and therefore easier to conceal) than the 6-shot DS. Performance-wise, I'd say they'd have to be about even, but I'm not sure. As for the capacity difference, well, I don't think it means that much - As I alluded to somewhere else, if whatever the problem is can't be solved with five shots, I doubt the sixth will help that much. StanTheMan 02:29, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
- The CDS is slightly larger, wouldn't that help control recoil better? Anytime I fire a .38 special only snub-nose I feel like each shot breaks my hand. -Anonymous
- - Maybe you're just weak. :b Seriously, that might be a consideration. But again, I don't know - I've never fired a snub-nose myself (in fact, I've only ever personally shot one revolver thus far). StanTheMan 03:00, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
- The problem is so many of the .38 snub-noses are built ultra-light for convenient carry which means the gun itself absorbs virtually no recoil. I find it far more enjoyable to shoot standard pressure .38 loads out of .357 snub-nose revolvers. And as for me being a pussy, possibly a contributing factor, however, uncomfortable recoil is a very common complaint with snub-nose revolvers. -Anonymous
S&W J frame vs. Colt Detective Special. (Personal experience)
I carry a S&W Model 49 Bodyguard (all steel version of the Model 38 Bodyguard) as my off-duty gun. I've been qualified to carry it for about eight years now. However in 2006 I also qualified with my Colt Detective Special as an experiment. I found the larger sights of the Detective Special to be much nicer when firing at the seven yard line. Especially when making head shots. Also the Colt is a little larger and heavier and even with the 38 Special that extra bulk helps with controlling the recoil which in turns aids in rapid and more accurate follow-up shots. Also the DS has bigger grips which also helps with control.
I have carried the DS in an ankle holster in the past and it isn't too bad. However the larger cylinder of the Colt begins to make itself known after a few hours. It tends to dig in at the ankle. But the more compact S&W Model 49 can be carried for many many hours and isn't that uncomfortable. I think the Colt DS is more suitable for belt carry and shoulder holsters.
Basically both designs are good revolvers and they have their strengths and weaknesses. You have to examine your personal parameters and then make a choice. Incidentally the closest revolver on the market (being currently made) to the old Colt DS would have to be the Ruger SP101 with the 2.25" barrel. I had one of those for a few years and found it real similar to the Colt when carrying it. I even carried it in the same ankle holster that I carried the DS in. But the SP101 is only a five shot. So once again you have to make a choice.
I've retired the Colt to bedside nightstand duty. It's 36 years old now (it's 3rd generation with the redesigned grip and barrel and ejector rod shroud) and there aren't many Colt certified gunsmiths out there anymore. The DS has the older action which is real nice but a real bear to repair and does have the reputation of going out of time if one works it too hard. But it's still a very functional and reliable revolver. I like Colt revolvers even though I'm a self-described S&W nut. Hope this helped. --Jcordell 16:01, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
- - That it did, at least for me. Quite informative. StanTheMan 17:00, 7 October 2010 (UTC)