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Talk:Man on Fire (2004)
Colt Gold Cup National Match Pistol
The Colt Gold Cup National Match Pistol was ID'ed by the Ellison Rear Sight in the photo. - Phoenixent
- Oh my, it was already ID'd? Some smartass seems to have removed it and assumed that the same 1911 Commander was used in that scene, which it evidently was not. --Joffeloff 18:39, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
- The Commander is sill there and that's a late Commander like a M1991A1 model. - Phoenixent
- I take back my comment on the optic rail comment in the page, that's something I can only find on the GCNM. RedJedRevolver
- The Commander is sill there and that's a late Commander like a M1991A1 model. - Phoenixent
Aurelio's 1911
The 'shadow' could also be front serrations, it's hard to tell.
- It has a standard Government Front and Rear Sights so it's not a Les Baer. - Phoenixent
http://www.lesbaer.com/images/thund.jpg LB TRS. http://www.lesbaer.com/images/con6.jpg LB Concept.
- I doubt it's a Les Baer anyway because those are super expensive and none of the accuracy and things are useful when it is a blank gun, so it's kind of a waste. On a different note, can the Grease Gun be confirmed as an M3 or an M3A1, or is the right side never seen? - Gunmaster45
- I agree, more knowledgeable people than me have discounted this on a prominent M1911 forum. I'm going to go ahead and remove my references to my guess. I just checked and the M3 isn't shown any more than that brief scene where it is put in the bag. There's tons of other old guns though, something I guess is pre-WW2 autoloader rifles and such, and some random handguns that aren't seen other than on the table. I just can't be bothered capping and adding guns that are shown for a split second and never used, but perhaps others would be interested in that? --Joffeloff 15:15, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
- It's encouraged though that you try your hardest to ID every gun in the film, because someone out there could watch the film, go "What's that gun on the table?" and then go here only to be disapointed to find the gun was skipped over. I'd do it, but I don't own the film. Great work with the page though. - Gunmaster45
- I agree, more knowledgeable people than me have discounted this on a prominent M1911 forum. I'm going to go ahead and remove my references to my guess. I just checked and the M3 isn't shown any more than that brief scene where it is put in the bag. There's tons of other old guns though, something I guess is pre-WW2 autoloader rifles and such, and some random handguns that aren't seen other than on the table. I just can't be bothered capping and adding guns that are shown for a split second and never used, but perhaps others would be interested in that? --Joffeloff 15:15, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
- I doubt it's a Les Baer anyway because those are super expensive and none of the accuracy and things are useful when it is a blank gun, so it's kind of a waste. On a different note, can the Grease Gun be confirmed as an M3 or an M3A1, or is the right side never seen? - Gunmaster45
Nice gun handling
^ I thought I'd comment on this, he places his hand on his chest because pros do this when shooting with one hand. It allows them to know their hand is not going to ever be in front of the muzzle. - Gunmaster45
^ This on the other hand, is not good gun handling. His grip is low, so his control won't be good. Usually it doesn't feel natural to hold the gun like this, since instinctively you hold the gun high, so it's wierd that actors do this so much in movies. In his defense, he's drunk here so maybe Denzel actually knew enough about gun handling to screw it up and appear more druken. - Gunmaster45
- He appears to use proper grips, both one- and two-handed throughout the film when he is actually in firefights so I would say this is deliberately sloppy. --Joffeloff 15:15, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
- I concur, since in that particular scene, he is supposed to be drunk, so that would mean that he wouldn't really be thinking about his grip more than he would be thinking about shooting himself. -500Magnum
- Yes, an actor of Denzel's caliber would certainly know how to differentiate between being sober and being drunk. So I think we are all in agreement, yes? -Gunman69 23:34, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
- I concur, since in that particular scene, he is supposed to be drunk, so that would mean that he wouldn't really be thinking about his grip more than he would be thinking about shooting himself. -500Magnum
Short barreled shotgun
Don't know if anyone will notice but I scored the actual shotgun carried by Denzel Washington in the movie :). IMFDB is the only place with this pic. But I checked that firearm all over. Aside from some import markings and proof stamps (which were hardly readable) I couldn't find any identifying manufacturer marks anywhere on the gun. I know it was a pre-1968 generic imported shotgun (many of which did not have serial numbers, so armorers had to add their own unique numbers later). It may be a Brazilian import rather than a Spanish one, so if anyone recognizes the full sized shotgun this was cut down from, please make a note. Thanks! MoviePropMaster2008 03:54, 24 October 2009 (UTC)