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Now, HAPPY EDITING! bunni (talk) 15:27, 3 January 2019 (EST)
Civilization V
Are you still working on the Civilization V page? --Funkychinaman (talk) 07:40, 11 January 2019 (EST)
Yes, there's a few weapons I can ID that have to be added and I'll put the ones I can't on the talk page. --Tamarin88 (talk) 08:40, 11 January 2019 (EST)
Regarding some recent edits...
First off, I just want to say thank you for joining this site, and for all the work you're doing to improve it. That being said, I'm a bit confused by some of your recent edits. Many of them seem focused around paring down certain pages' text, which is understandable, but many of them also remove certain bits of interesting info in the process. Take, for instance, the incongruous file names for weapons in the CS:GO page, or the bit about the manufacturers of the Hi-Power on the Fallout: New Vegas page, or a number of other things. Sure, they might not be necessary per se, but there's no real harm in keeping them there (barring a notable exception, for which I am largely to blame, we're not exactly struggling to keep pages small enough); besides, if nothing else, they're at least interesting little tidbits of information. And while I can understand that you might want to make certain pages a bit more buttoned-down and serious-sounding, this can often make pages seem dry and bland - a certain user on this wiki has described some pages as "reading like a filing cabinet" or "sounding like an EULA". One of the main things that this wiki prides itself on is being able to provide useful, legitimate information, while still maintaining a certain level of lightheartedness that makes it more enjoyable to read. So, in the near future, I'll likely be rolling back some of your edits; I hope that this makes it clear as to why. Best of wishes, Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 18:46, 16 January 2019 (EST) P.S.: Also, regarding the Battlefield 1 info with the locked-back pistol slides, the main reason that I put the "justifying" bit in there is because you really can't notice the slides locking back on their own automatically unless you're really watching closely (or watching in slow motion), so anyone who's played the game and hasn't paid very close attention would take a look at your statement and think, "What? That's not true, I was playing the game just the other day, and I saw the gun lock open right when I fired out the last round, not when I started reloading." My explanation wasn't so much to "justify" as it was to "clarify"; without it, the statement might seem a bit confusing, or just plain wrong to someone who's not actively checking for stuff like this.
- I removed the New Vegas Hi-Power info because it's speculation. It doesn't enhance the reader's knowledge of the gun's depiction in the game to speculate on how a ficitious gun company is making Hi-Powers. As for the CS:GO info, I deleted it because I was under the impression that datamined info wasn't something we did, and in any case the only really worthwhile piece of information there is there is the SIG556 having its correct name in the files. If you have any other concerns about my edits, please state them specifically so I can give my reasoning. As for humour, while I don't have any specific objection to it on the wiki, someone should tell the rulewriters if this wiki is meant to be somewhat lighthearted... --Tamarin88 (talk) 05:54, 17 January 2019 (EST)
- With all due respect, Tamarin88, I have to point out that you don't really have the authority to go ahead and make such many decisions on your own, especially when you've only joined this site recently. Datamining inconsistencies that are worth pointing out are indeed allowed here, and humor is very common as well (we have admins that do it even more than regular users). As such, I must ask you to not make sudden changes for major stuff that was established here long ago (including your recent edit of the StG 45(M) on the WWII page, which you mainly did because you personally didn't like the joke), unless it's totally justified. Plus, Pyr0's point above regarding the slides locking back on their own is valid, and in regards to this you shouldn't go and cause edit warring (especially against many long-time experienced users regarding the same edit), and instead discuss it on the article's talk page. If you have issues about something major, please discuss them either on a specific topic's talk page, or on the Main Page's discussion. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 10:51, 17 January 2019 (EST)
- I removed the joke because it was a confusing joke that could mislead readers as to why it is dirty. I could readd the Far Cry 2 part if it's that important to you. The rules also specifically state that humour is not allowed, so if the mods are engaging in it they should probably change the rules. If you have complaints about any other edits, please tell me. --Tamarin88 (talk) 12:48, 17 January 2019 (EST)
- For the record the rule is to 'keep media pages as encyclopedic as possible', not 'absolutely no humor allowed on media pages whatsoever'. Yes humor and fun are meant to be kept more in discussion pages but media pages themselves aren't totally exempt from a bit of in-good-taste fun here and there as I understand it. Otherwise U94N said it, when in doubt, always use the talk page, it's what they're there for. Also, make sure to make any reply to discussions made on your page on the talk page of the one who made the discussion, as every user gets notified of any edit on their talk page and thus they know you've replied. StanTheMan (talk) 17:06, 17 January 2019 (EST)
- The rule is, explicitly, "Humor and teasing to be kept in the Discussion pages, please". If this actually means "some humour is okay" it should be changed. Also, are you serious? Reply to users making posts on your talk page on their talk page? That is bizarre, totally contrary to any logical principles of how a talk page should work, totally contrary to how talk pages work on any other wiki, and makes discussions unreadable. If people can't bother checking the talk page of someone they're having a discussion with (or notice the notification on the recent changes list) that's their prerogative, but I'm not going to indulge them. --Tamarin88 (talk) 19:38, 17 January 2019 (EST)
- It also says 'you don't have to check in your sense of humor at the door'. Ultimately it's not a complete and utter absolute - at least as I and others have understood it. I'm sorry if it isn't worded explicitly enough to suit you, but the site shouldn't and indeed doesn't prescribe every little thing down to the inth degree. That said here's dozens of pages that have scant little blurbs and quips that while not absolutely necessary certainly don't hurt anything. That it may or may not suit you and only you is why you should check before making such changes. As for the talk page thing, again replying on the other gives them an automatic notification so they know someone said something on there, which they do not get if you edit your page unless they mark it as such. I suppose it isn't absolutely necessary given some of your points but it - like discussing certain edits - is meant to be a courtesy. Something that seemingly never even crossed your mind. Having said that I have to say here and now that I find that that - and much of your other remarks and actions of late - to be indicative a whole attitude of what I can only describe as contempt for how we do many things on this site. An attitude that, while how we conduct ourselves may be odd or irregular, is still one I for one feel is both troubling and unwarranted. If I'm misunderstood then I apologize but it is the vibe you're displaying here as I see it and, well, like anyone else I can only call things as I see them. StanTheMan (talk) 21:57, 17 January 2019 (EST)
- The rule is, explicitly, "Humor and teasing to be kept in the Discussion pages, please". If this actually means "some humour is okay" it should be changed. Also, are you serious? Reply to users making posts on your talk page on their talk page? That is bizarre, totally contrary to any logical principles of how a talk page should work, totally contrary to how talk pages work on any other wiki, and makes discussions unreadable. If people can't bother checking the talk page of someone they're having a discussion with (or notice the notification on the recent changes list) that's their prerogative, but I'm not going to indulge them. --Tamarin88 (talk) 19:38, 17 January 2019 (EST)
- For the record the rule is to 'keep media pages as encyclopedic as possible', not 'absolutely no humor allowed on media pages whatsoever'. Yes humor and fun are meant to be kept more in discussion pages but media pages themselves aren't totally exempt from a bit of in-good-taste fun here and there as I understand it. Otherwise U94N said it, when in doubt, always use the talk page, it's what they're there for. Also, make sure to make any reply to discussions made on your page on the talk page of the one who made the discussion, as every user gets notified of any edit on their talk page and thus they know you've replied. StanTheMan (talk) 17:06, 17 January 2019 (EST)
- I removed the joke because it was a confusing joke that could mislead readers as to why it is dirty. I could readd the Far Cry 2 part if it's that important to you. The rules also specifically state that humour is not allowed, so if the mods are engaging in it they should probably change the rules. If you have complaints about any other edits, please tell me. --Tamarin88 (talk) 12:48, 17 January 2019 (EST)
- With all due respect, Tamarin88, I have to point out that you don't really have the authority to go ahead and make such many decisions on your own, especially when you've only joined this site recently. Datamining inconsistencies that are worth pointing out are indeed allowed here, and humor is very common as well (we have admins that do it even more than regular users). As such, I must ask you to not make sudden changes for major stuff that was established here long ago (including your recent edit of the StG 45(M) on the WWII page, which you mainly did because you personally didn't like the joke), unless it's totally justified. Plus, Pyr0's point above regarding the slides locking back on their own is valid, and in regards to this you shouldn't go and cause edit warring (especially against many long-time experienced users regarding the same edit), and instead discuss it on the article's talk page. If you have issues about something major, please discuss them either on a specific topic's talk page, or on the Main Page's discussion. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 10:51, 17 January 2019 (EST)