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: Not saying you've done anything wrong but I think it would be preferable to just move his comments as they are here (excluding any redundant entries) to the discussion page, rather than summarize them on his behalf as you've done. At least that's how I'd have done it, anyway. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 22:30, 1 November 2015 (EST) | : Not saying you've done anything wrong but I think it would be preferable to just move his comments as they are here (excluding any redundant entries) to the discussion page, rather than summarize them on his behalf as you've done. At least that's how I'd have done it, anyway. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 22:30, 1 November 2015 (EST) | ||
Yeah, on retrospective it was a bit of a bad move to just rip them off of the page. Decision making while sleep deprived is not one of my strong suits. Looking at Lance's comments now still proves my point. The Hi-Power and M1911 used by Slit aren't Tokarev's in any way. The make of sawn off shotgun really isn't needed. The Bentley is almost identical to the Musler. The Enfields however are actually Snider conversions. The image we have is hard to see, but you can see the specific parts that make it obvious it's a Snider. --[[User:PaperCake|PaperCake]] 23:16, 2 November 2015 (EST) | |||
Revision as of 04:16, 3 November 2015
2014 Trailer
Here's the new Mad Max trailer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWNWi-ZWL3c
And with it are some new guns. Unfortunately, I don't know how to screencap so I'll mark the time where the new guns are. I watched this trailer at .25 speed to try and identify any of the guns.
At :32 seconds in, in the upper area of the screen on the right hand side in the background is a bandit with what looks like an AK-47.
At 1:25, a large bandit holding what looks like some kind of dressed up mounted machined gun. Not sure about caliber, you can see the brass of the shells in the drum. If you look closely at the guy's chest, right where the necklace is, a empty casing bounces off his chest meaning he's firing it into the air.
At 1:31, I almost missed this one. The guy in the middle has two revolvers strapped to his biceps from some reason. The bandit on the left of the screen has a bandolier of what looks like .50 caliber bullets.
At 1:33, Charlize Theron holding some kind of rifle, difficult to tell what kind since the shot is close up on her face.
At 1:37, Charlize holding what appears to be a SKS rifle. --Bad Boy (talk) 22:02, 12 December 2014 (EST)
- Please consult the IMFDB Screencapping Guide for screencapping instructions. --Funkychinaman (talk) 06:13, 13 December 2014 (EST)
--- I'm not sure it's worth adding this until the release (after all, this is not a race), but in production photos the SKS does get a custom "post-apocalyptic" scope attached to these rails. Again, I would add this after the home video release to be sure and to provide meaningful additions that are definitely in the movie.
- If clear shots/images can be put up from any official photos, trailers or other legitimate sources that help with weapon info and/or ID, I see no reason not to add it. The template notes that content is subject to change, and it'll be change when/if it needs to be. But if the page can have good content now, again why not add it? The point isn't about who can post content first, the point is about having as well-documented a page as possible. I don't think that changes simply because the page is a placeholder. StanTheMan (talk) 20:53, 7 January 2015 (EST)
- Here you go: http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:Furiosa_SKS.JPG --Seriously Mike (talk) 09:02, 3 May 2015 (EDT)
- If clear shots/images can be put up from any official photos, trailers or other legitimate sources that help with weapon info and/or ID, I see no reason not to add it. The template notes that content is subject to change, and it'll be change when/if it needs to be. But if the page can have good content now, again why not add it? The point isn't about who can post content first, the point is about having as well-documented a page as possible. I don't think that changes simply because the page is a placeholder. StanTheMan (talk) 20:53, 7 January 2015 (EST)
2015 Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woHTUsl66BY
At 0:31-0:32, we can clearly see a Taurus PT92AF held by Tom Hardy. This has been added in the movie's page.
At 1:20, I can't tell the brand/model of the sawn-off double barrel shotgun held by Max. Is it the same as the sawed-off double-barrel shotgun used in the original?
It is a Sara Squenta shotgun, not the original from the first set of movies. Lance Peters (talk) 16:41, 1 November 2015 (EST)
Who can tell the model/maker?
At 1:53, a guy fires an unidentified grenade launcher (or flare gun??). Could be a chopped off M79 grenade launcher fitted with a forward vertical grip. We can also see Imperator Furiosa (Charlize Theron) using a crossbow.
- How can you be sure it's a PT92? Original Beretta 92s have frame-mounted safeties as well. --Funkychinaman (talk) 12:34, 29 April 2015 (EDT)
- Got a slightly better cap, looks like it has the squared/recurved trigger guard, so it's not an early Beretta. I'd have to go with it being listed as a Taurus. StanTheMan (talk) 13:11, 29 April 2015 (EDT)
Webley No.1 MkIII* flare gun and Luger P08
I dug up a production photo with a Webley No.1 MkIII* flare gun and a barely visible Luger P08. Do we add both or just the former? --Seriously Mike (talk) 09:08, 3 May 2015 (EDT)
AK Variant and Sub-Machine Gun
Just saw this movie today (AWESOME movie, by the way!) and I did catch two more weapons. The Bullet Farmer wields two of some variant of a AK (Might be the AK-74, couldn't tell cause of the lighting) or an RPK with some attachments on them, one of which being a drum magazine, and not the MP5K-PDW (though he does wield them for one scene only, being the shot from the trailer). Also, I managed to catch a glimpse of a Sterling Mark 7 being used by a biker during the first canyon chase. --SeanWolf 22:21, 15 May 2015 (EDT)
Machine guns
I recall seeing an M2 Browning machine gun mounted on one of the War Boy vehicles (early in the film?), and a brief shot of an MG with a water jacket, possibly another .50 BMG. (Just an FYI.)—DocWatson (talk) 01:01, 23 May 2015 (EDT)
Vehicle Showcase
The Vehicle Showcase section on the official site's got some pictures of the vehicle-mounted guns.--Quarax (talk) 00:15, 24 May 2015 (EDT)
Prince Rictus Erectus' Gun
Any idea's on the multi-barreled machine-gun used by Rictus Erectus(Nathan Jones)? --The Mercenary (talk) 14:00, 31 May 2015 (EDT)
- Seemed to be a fictional gun, at least to me. Something like Mouse's shotguns from the original Matrix. --Seriously Mike (talk) 18:07, 1 June 2015 (EDT)
Toast's Mystery Derringer
After her weapons inventory, Toast holds up a small silver pistol with a wood grip. No idea what it is. She says, "But we can squirt off this little pinky a raunchy 29 times." Max Deployment (talk) 16:03, 4 June 2015 (EDT)
It is a single shot .22 home made pistol. It was found in a (fully licensed) collection of an ex-military officer and most likely confiscated during the Angolan war.Lance Peters (talk) 05:45, 15 June 2015 (EDT)
Th War Rig's Shotgun
In the movie both Furiosa and The Keeper of the Seeds both used a shotgun with pistol foregrip can anyone ID this gun.--Balin21 (talk) 19:28, 5 June 2015 (EDT)
Based on the magazine tube it appears to be a Winchester 1912, but I could be wrong. --Flavio (talk) 17:40, 31 July 2015 (EDT)
It might also be a Winchester 1300 with pistol foregrip.--Balin21 (talk) 15:56, 4 September 2015 (EDT)
Organization Peeves
Try organizing the guns alphabetically, not by their significance. Let's not forget to not include the actors' names more than necessary (just one or twice). Also, revolvers and pistols can both be categorized as handguns, people. --User:GunGenius1
- 1) It's actually been an accepted custom here that firearms be sorted by prominence and significance in the media page, and NOT alphabetically - Specifically, weapons wielded by main or major characters usually get listed first (With any screen-used or 'hero' pieces getting top listings in a category), and after that you can go however you want, though almost all go chronologically from there. The overwhelming majority of pages on the site are like this. Alphabetical listings can be misleading - If a pistol with a higher letter in its model name that gets used only once in the film is listed first while a gun used by the central character is listed near the bottom just because of the name does that make sense or is it just arbitrary and counter-intuitive? In the case of this page, I think it would be better to highlight not just prominent pieces but also sections that actually have screencaps for the time being until the movie can be properly screencapped.
2) Handguns are usually split into separate 'Pistols' and 'Revolvers' categories when there are a large number of said guns on a page (10 or more in total, at least 2 or more of either particular type, last I heard anyway). We've done this on other pages with other types of weapons (usually ones with a lot of rifles, we'll differentiate between Assault and non-Assault types). We do so to make particular types of weapons easier to find in a piece of media especially when there's a fair number of them in said media.
3) An actor's name can be linked as much as one desires, I've seen some only do it once per weapon listing, Some do it in the weapon description as well as screencaps where they are shown prominently (like myself), and I've seen pages where their name is put in every screencap they are in. It can be done any of those ways.
In conclusion, I don't care for you directing how anybody should do anything on this page with such an authoritative and condescending tone when 1) much of it is against the generally accepted and practiced norms of the site 2) you are not the original creator of the page and 3) you are not an administrator. StanTheMan (talk) 21:59, 14 August 2015 (EDT)
- I've always preferred by significance, or by appearances. If one extra has an AK-47 in one scene, it doesn't make sense to put in front of the hero who's armed with an M16 for 120 minutes. --Funkychinaman (talk) 12:30, 15 August 2015 (EDT)
Unidentified Firearms
- That last one definitely looks like a Beretta 92 variant. --yocapo32 (talk) 19:51, 1 November 2015 (EST)
- Don't see how you can tell that - The only readily distinguishable difference between the Taurus and Beretta is the safety, which you can't make out in that shot. That said, it's probably the same Taurus already mentioned on the page. The middle cap of the three looks like a pump shotgun with extended mag tube and side-saddle shell holder. StanTheMan (talk) 21:00, 1 November 2015 (EST)
S&W Model 30
I think that the revolver, identified as S&W Model 30, appears to be S&W Model 10HB that is much more common. Greg-Z (talk) 13:30, 6 September 2015 (EDT)
M1911
On the screenshot where Slit holds a pistol, it is a Hi-Power, not a 1911. Greg-Z (talk) 14:08, 6 September 2015 (EDT)
Mr. Peter's edits
Before I delete them off the page for obvious reasons, I'll compile Lance Peters comments below for a bit of evaluation.
The Musler is a Bently 12ga, actually Bentley 12ga.
The Enfield 1853's are actually Snider conversions.
Slit's Hi-Power/1911 is actually a Tokarev M57.
Max's sawn off shotgun is a Sara Squenta 12g shotgun, a CZ 12g was also used as a back up incase the older Sara Squenta failed.
The one that was correct was that the Jatimatic was actually just a crossbow, which it was. The rest have been deleted. I'll let the original poster and the admins take their final decision. --PaperCake 17:55, 1 November 2015 (EST)
- Not saying you've done anything wrong but I think it would be preferable to just move his comments as they are here (excluding any redundant entries) to the discussion page, rather than summarize them on his behalf as you've done. At least that's how I'd have done it, anyway. StanTheMan (talk) 22:30, 1 November 2015 (EST)
Yeah, on retrospective it was a bit of a bad move to just rip them off of the page. Decision making while sleep deprived is not one of my strong suits. Looking at Lance's comments now still proves my point. The Hi-Power and M1911 used by Slit aren't Tokarev's in any way. The make of sawn off shotgun really isn't needed. The Bentley is almost identical to the Musler. The Enfields however are actually Snider conversions. The image we have is hard to see, but you can see the specific parts that make it obvious it's a Snider. --PaperCake 23:16, 2 November 2015 (EST)