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:I only IDed the rifle in S4 based on the flash hider because it was the only identifiable feature shown, so it's entirely possible Tony had an A1 with a 3-prong flash hider. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 10:22, 17 October 2014 (EDT)
:I only IDed the rifle in S4 based on the flash hider because it was the only identifiable feature shown, so it's entirely possible Tony had an A1 with a 3-prong flash hider. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 10:22, 17 October 2014 (EDT)
::I've gone back and a flicked through to try and get a better look but I was not able to find a good look of the right side of the receiver. However, you can occasionally see that it has a screw head takedown pin which most likely means it is an SP1 (it could be a Sporter II but the SP1 is more common in films/TV). Just to point out, the 3 prong flash hider is incorrect for the SP1 as well, but they have quite often been modified to have them to make them look like more like original M16s. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 10:42, 17 October 2014 (EDT)
::I've gone back and a flicked through to try and get a better look but I was not able to find a good look of the right side of the receiver. However, you can occasionally see that it has a screw head takedown pin which most likely means it is an SP1 (it could be a Sporter II but the SP1 is more common in films/TV). Just to point out, the 3 prong flash hider is incorrect for the SP1 as well, but they have quite often been modified to have them to make them look like more like original M16s. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 10:42, 17 October 2014 (EDT)
== Bag of guns lie? ==
In the description it states that "Rick lied by telling him that in the bag was an "AK-47, .44 Magnum, Automatic weapons, Nightscore, compound bow and a machete with a red handle."" This isn't really a lie is it? Granted we did not see a machete or nightscope (which is what I'm assuming "Nightscore" is a typo of), but everything else was seen being put into the bag in the last episode of the last season. There are continuity errors, such as the M16 possibly changing to an M16A1 and the bow disappearing, but it I wouldn't call it a deliberate lie by Rick (if it was a lie, what was the point?). As for the machete with the red handle, I think they might have been talking about one of those orange handled Gerber "Bear Grylls"  machetes that have been used by various characters.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 08:01, 22 October 2014 (EDT)

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Scoped M16

It's not a MK12, just an M16A4-type rifle modded with a collapsible stock and low profile gas block. The barrel is 20" as opposed to the 18" barrel on a MK12. Spartan198 (talk) 09:10, 7 August 2014 (EDT)

Rick's Type 56

Polymer Fixed color is changed, it is dark brown because it comes on the scene and also a photo of the official website of The Walking Dead, Rick is with his Type 56 [1]

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Photoshopped Type 56 with Fixed Polymer Stock, grip pistol and Handguard as seen in The Walking Dead - Season 5 - 7.62x39mm

- PaulD21x (talk) 15:20, 12 August 2014 (VST)

Long Pistol

I can't understand that the long pistol Rick use in the trailer. More like this is AMT Automag III.

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AMT Automag III - .30 Carbine.
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Looks more like a Heckler & Koch USP Tactical with one of those Osprey suppressors. --Warejaws (talk) 06:20, 3 September 2014 (EDT)
No, not a USP, the trigger guard is wrong. The front of it bends inward, like a Mark 23, rather than sloping back from the top down like on the majority of USPs. Overall shape and dimensions also look like a Mark 23 to me. Spartan198 (talk) 05:51, 21 September 2014 (EDT)
Yeah, I think you're right.--Warejaws (talk) 06:42, 21 September 2014 (EDT)
This is from the latest trailer, same pistol?
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This one is definitely a Mark 23, you can tell by the raised base for the front and rear sight. Can't really see the suppressor particularly well as it is from above, but based on how slim it looks from this angle it could be one of those asymmetrical ones like the Osprey. --commando552 (talk) 13:22, 25 September 2014 (EDT)


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A production image of Rick holding his Python.

More examples in poor gun handling

It's always been noticeable in how a lot of the actors can't handle firearms. Yes, their characters most likely have no military or law enforcement background, but after awhile, you'd think they would learn how to hold a gun, but Rick is an exception since he's a cop. Just something about him holding the AK with the stock up high like that just bothers me Excalibur01 (talk) 14:08, 4 September 2014 (EDT)

Sasha carry an M16 or M16A1 ?

I think that Sasha carry Tony's M16 from last season. Tony carry the original M16. Rick buried the rifle in a bag with other claimers guns.

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The barrel can say that this is the original M16 seen in "Claimed" (S4E11).

FARID (talk) 10:56, 14 October 2014 (EDT)

The flash hider is a very easily changeable part so should not be used as the sole identifier for what a weapon is. I can't make out from that cap whether Sasha's gun has the 3 prong flash hider or a birdcage, but if you look at the receiver you can see that it has a forward assist, so is therefore not an M16 (or in fact an SP1 which is what 99.9% of the "M16s" that appear actually are) but rather an M16A1. To be honest, there is not really enough of the gun seen in Season 4 to ID it as being an M16/SP1 as the right side of the upper is not shown in the caps, so it is possible that it is an M16A1 that has just had the flash hider changed. --commando552 (talk) 11:41, 14 October 2014 (EDT)
I only IDed the rifle in S4 based on the flash hider because it was the only identifiable feature shown, so it's entirely possible Tony had an A1 with a 3-prong flash hider. Spartan198 (talk) 10:22, 17 October 2014 (EDT)
I've gone back and a flicked through to try and get a better look but I was not able to find a good look of the right side of the receiver. However, you can occasionally see that it has a screw head takedown pin which most likely means it is an SP1 (it could be a Sporter II but the SP1 is more common in films/TV). Just to point out, the 3 prong flash hider is incorrect for the SP1 as well, but they have quite often been modified to have them to make them look like more like original M16s. --commando552 (talk) 10:42, 17 October 2014 (EDT)

Bag of guns lie?

In the description it states that "Rick lied by telling him that in the bag was an "AK-47, .44 Magnum, Automatic weapons, Nightscore, compound bow and a machete with a red handle."" This isn't really a lie is it? Granted we did not see a machete or nightscope (which is what I'm assuming "Nightscore" is a typo of), but everything else was seen being put into the bag in the last episode of the last season. There are continuity errors, such as the M16 possibly changing to an M16A1 and the bow disappearing, but it I wouldn't call it a deliberate lie by Rick (if it was a lie, what was the point?). As for the machete with the red handle, I think they might have been talking about one of those orange handled Gerber "Bear Grylls" machetes that have been used by various characters. --commando552 (talk) 08:01, 22 October 2014 (EDT)