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:Just barely beat me to making this article! I had the screencaps lined up and everything. Anyways, I believe the "M16s" and "CAR-15s" used by the regular security forces (at least until Ep 04) are non-firing replica props based on their appearance to include parallel forward assist/pin (see the non-firing prop segment of the [[M16]] article). If this is true, then it kind of spoils that those particular rifles will never be used in a firefight. The same can not be said of some of the other, more impressive hardware like the Vz. 58s and MTARs. --[[User:HKUrban|HKUrban]] ([[User talk:HKUrban|talk]]) 02:03, 23 July 2014 (EDT) | :Just barely beat me to making this article! I had the screencaps lined up and everything. Anyways, I believe the "M16s" and "CAR-15s" used by the regular security forces (at least until Ep 04) are non-firing replica props based on their appearance to include parallel forward assist/pin (see the non-firing prop segment of the [[M16]] article). If this is true, then it kind of spoils that those particular rifles will never be used in a firefight. The same can not be said of some of the other, more impressive hardware like the Vz. 58s and MTARs. --[[User:HKUrban|HKUrban]] ([[User talk:HKUrban|talk]]) 02:03, 23 July 2014 (EDT) | ||
::I'm not so sure about that. Firstly, as far as I can tell the forward assist correctly sticks out diagonally (particularly visible on the M16 shot) as opposed to being parallel to the barrel axis like on the MGC replicas. The thing that I find particularly odd about these guns is the fact that the upper is absolutely perfect and appears to be genuine upper from an actual gun, as opposed to the lower which is really crude with awful ergonomics and only vaguely resembles that of an AR-15. To me it sort of seems like that for whatever reason they had some uppers but no lowers, so just whipped something up from scratch that looked sort of right from a distance. Why this would be the case though, I have no idea. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 12:57, 23 July 2014 (EDT) | ::I'm not so sure about that. Firstly, as far as I can tell the forward assist correctly sticks out diagonally (particularly visible on the M16 shot) as opposed to being parallel to the barrel axis like on the MGC replicas. The thing that I find particularly odd about these guns is the fact that the upper is absolutely perfect and appears to be genuine upper from an actual gun, as opposed to the lower which is really crude with awful ergonomics and only vaguely resembles that of an AR-15. To me it sort of seems like that for whatever reason they had some uppers but no lowers, so just whipped something up from scratch that looked sort of right from a distance. Why this would be the case though, I have no idea. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 12:57, 23 July 2014 (EDT) | ||
:::On second review you are right, at least about this particular piece. I think there may be a few different models floating around depending on proximity to camera, screen time, etc. Because of that I may have noticed mock-up features on one piece and fallen victim to confirmation bias when examining others. I will look back through my screen grabs and see if I can pick out some of these different versions. It is indeed strange that they have access to top-of-the-line Israeli firearms like the MTAR, X95S, and Galatz, but not to standard M16s and M4s which are fairly prevalent in Israel where much of this season was being filmed prior to escalation of conflict in that region. --[[User:HKUrban|HKUrban]] ([[User talk:HKUrban|talk]]) 15:22, 23 July 2014 (EDT) | |||
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AR-15 variant
I can't understand what exactly AR-15 variant in the hands of the soldier. Note the shape of lower receiver.
Bednardos (talk) 17:49, 22 July 2014 (EET)
- Just barely beat me to making this article! I had the screencaps lined up and everything. Anyways, I believe the "M16s" and "CAR-15s" used by the regular security forces (at least until Ep 04) are non-firing replica props based on their appearance to include parallel forward assist/pin (see the non-firing prop segment of the M16 article). If this is true, then it kind of spoils that those particular rifles will never be used in a firefight. The same can not be said of some of the other, more impressive hardware like the Vz. 58s and MTARs. --HKUrban (talk) 02:03, 23 July 2014 (EDT)
- I'm not so sure about that. Firstly, as far as I can tell the forward assist correctly sticks out diagonally (particularly visible on the M16 shot) as opposed to being parallel to the barrel axis like on the MGC replicas. The thing that I find particularly odd about these guns is the fact that the upper is absolutely perfect and appears to be genuine upper from an actual gun, as opposed to the lower which is really crude with awful ergonomics and only vaguely resembles that of an AR-15. To me it sort of seems like that for whatever reason they had some uppers but no lowers, so just whipped something up from scratch that looked sort of right from a distance. Why this would be the case though, I have no idea. --commando552 (talk) 12:57, 23 July 2014 (EDT)
- On second review you are right, at least about this particular piece. I think there may be a few different models floating around depending on proximity to camera, screen time, etc. Because of that I may have noticed mock-up features on one piece and fallen victim to confirmation bias when examining others. I will look back through my screen grabs and see if I can pick out some of these different versions. It is indeed strange that they have access to top-of-the-line Israeli firearms like the MTAR, X95S, and Galatz, but not to standard M16s and M4s which are fairly prevalent in Israel where much of this season was being filmed prior to escalation of conflict in that region. --HKUrban (talk) 15:22, 23 July 2014 (EDT)
- I'm not so sure about that. Firstly, as far as I can tell the forward assist correctly sticks out diagonally (particularly visible on the M16 shot) as opposed to being parallel to the barrel axis like on the MGC replicas. The thing that I find particularly odd about these guns is the fact that the upper is absolutely perfect and appears to be genuine upper from an actual gun, as opposed to the lower which is really crude with awful ergonomics and only vaguely resembles that of an AR-15. To me it sort of seems like that for whatever reason they had some uppers but no lowers, so just whipped something up from scratch that looked sort of right from a distance. Why this would be the case though, I have no idea. --commando552 (talk) 12:57, 23 July 2014 (EDT)