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Could someone explain why blackpowder revolvers can't fire smokeless ammunition? Yes, i know they are too weak to handle modern ammunition, but why are they too weak? Why can a modern Colt SAA reproduction fire smokeless ammo when an original vintage one cannot, aren't they basically the same gun? What part of the gun is changed to make it able to fire smokeless? [[User:Z008MJ|Z008MJ]] ([[User talk:Z008MJ|talk]]) 18:31, 14 November 2013 (EST) | Could someone explain why blackpowder revolvers can't fire smokeless ammunition? Yes, i know they are too weak to handle modern ammunition, but why are they too weak? Why can a modern Colt SAA reproduction fire smokeless ammo when an original vintage one cannot, aren't they basically the same gun? What part of the gun is changed to make it able to fire smokeless? [[User:Z008MJ|Z008MJ]] ([[User talk:Z008MJ|talk]]) 18:31, 14 November 2013 (EST) | ||
: You kind of answered you own question, the old firearms aren't considered to be (and generally indeed aren't) strong enough to handle the added stress smokeless cartridges make. The reproductions made these days, while aesthetically similar to the classics, are made like modern guns, with modern materials and to stronger tolerances than the older stuff. Keep in mind the metalworking and manufacturing of firearms wasn't as good 100-150 years ago and therefore the guns as strong and durable as they are today. When smokeless powder came out, many gunmakers had to re-manufacture their weapons much stronger in order to handle it (Some might have been strong enough to handle it as is, but many makers wisely chose not to count on that) and smokeless rounds are a great deal more powerful than blackpowder rounds. Jacketed bullets came about because smokeless powder gave such a higher velocity and force that smokeless cartridges with plain lead bullets would potentially disintegrate when fired. In the case of revolvers, generally if you discount modern steel/alloys and metalworking, the frame and cylinder would be thicker/heavier, as would the trigger, hammer and other internal parts. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 22:14, 14 November 2013 (EST) | |||
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About revolvers and ammunition types ....
Could someone explain why blackpowder revolvers can't fire smokeless ammunition? Yes, i know they are too weak to handle modern ammunition, but why are they too weak? Why can a modern Colt SAA reproduction fire smokeless ammo when an original vintage one cannot, aren't they basically the same gun? What part of the gun is changed to make it able to fire smokeless? Z008MJ (talk) 18:31, 14 November 2013 (EST)
- You kind of answered you own question, the old firearms aren't considered to be (and generally indeed aren't) strong enough to handle the added stress smokeless cartridges make. The reproductions made these days, while aesthetically similar to the classics, are made like modern guns, with modern materials and to stronger tolerances than the older stuff. Keep in mind the metalworking and manufacturing of firearms wasn't as good 100-150 years ago and therefore the guns as strong and durable as they are today. When smokeless powder came out, many gunmakers had to re-manufacture their weapons much stronger in order to handle it (Some might have been strong enough to handle it as is, but many makers wisely chose not to count on that) and smokeless rounds are a great deal more powerful than blackpowder rounds. Jacketed bullets came about because smokeless powder gave such a higher velocity and force that smokeless cartridges with plain lead bullets would potentially disintegrate when fired. In the case of revolvers, generally if you discount modern steel/alloys and metalworking, the frame and cylinder would be thicker/heavier, as would the trigger, hammer and other internal parts. StanTheMan (talk) 22:14, 14 November 2013 (EST)