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Please note who makes it, what country issued it, etc. when speaking of a relatively obscure non-American firearm. Thank you. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] | Please note who makes it, what country issued it, etc. when speaking of a relatively obscure non-American firearm. Thank you. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] | ||
::Thank you Commando552 for the summary. It is necessary when the gun is not commonly known [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] | ::Thank you Commando552 for the summary. It is necessary when the gun is not commonly known [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] | ||
The Ussaro Mod 1786 is actually a replica made by Davide Pedersoli of Italy (you can check it out on their product catalogue) of the French Model 1777 "Dragon" version of their "Charleville" Musket. You can tell the weapon designation is Italian because "Ussaro" is Italian for Hussar (in French it's "Hussard"). Also carbine versions of infantry longarms of the period were traditionally designated "dragoon" models since dragoons, as notional mounted infantry, were expected to carry longarms as part of their regular armament (other cavalry units might or might not). | |||
"The Ussaro Mod 1786 was a light cavalry musket derived from the Charleville Musket. It became the standard weapon for all the French cavalry corps (hunters, cavalrymen, grenadiers, lancers, carabineers and dragoons) including the hussars, who preferred this rifles for it's lightness and short length. With slight modification this gun was distributed to some infantry corps and to the navy." | |||
Some grammar issues aside, there's also plenty of factual inaccuracies. There's no such thing as a "light cavalry musket", it's called a carbine. French "hunters" are called "Chasseurs". There's no such thing as grenadiers in the cavalry, although there were "grenadiers a cheval" or Horse Grenadiers. Neither the Napoleonic-era carbine or musket are rifles, since both are smoothbore. And the infantry never received carbine versions of the Charleville, though the artillery did. -Phalanx | |||
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Please note who makes it, what country issued it, etc. when speaking of a relatively obscure non-American firearm. Thank you. MoviePropMaster2008
- Thank you Commando552 for the summary. It is necessary when the gun is not commonly known MoviePropMaster2008
The Ussaro Mod 1786 is actually a replica made by Davide Pedersoli of Italy (you can check it out on their product catalogue) of the French Model 1777 "Dragon" version of their "Charleville" Musket. You can tell the weapon designation is Italian because "Ussaro" is Italian for Hussar (in French it's "Hussard"). Also carbine versions of infantry longarms of the period were traditionally designated "dragoon" models since dragoons, as notional mounted infantry, were expected to carry longarms as part of their regular armament (other cavalry units might or might not).
"The Ussaro Mod 1786 was a light cavalry musket derived from the Charleville Musket. It became the standard weapon for all the French cavalry corps (hunters, cavalrymen, grenadiers, lancers, carabineers and dragoons) including the hussars, who preferred this rifles for it's lightness and short length. With slight modification this gun was distributed to some infantry corps and to the navy."
Some grammar issues aside, there's also plenty of factual inaccuracies. There's no such thing as a "light cavalry musket", it's called a carbine. French "hunters" are called "Chasseurs". There's no such thing as grenadiers in the cavalry, although there were "grenadiers a cheval" or Horse Grenadiers. Neither the Napoleonic-era carbine or musket are rifles, since both are smoothbore. And the infantry never received carbine versions of the Charleville, though the artillery did. -Phalanx