The Dark Knight: Difference between revisions
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The Dark Knight: Difference between revisions
The Joker ([[Heath Ledger]]) uses a [[Glock#Glock 17|Glock 17]] that has been converted to full-auto, as the gun lacks the Glock 18's firing selector switch on the side of the slide. His tutone Glock is fitted with a G18's standard 33 round magazine. He is seen using it as his main weapon several times in the film. A fun fact, to make the gun sound more impressive, the report of a [[GE M134 Minigun]] is used to dub the gunfire of his Glock. Despite the extreme cyclic rate difference (roughly 1300rpm to 4000rpm), this sound fits quite nicely. For someone as bizarre as The Joker, the gun fits him well as it is very rare, destructive, stylish although in some ways impractical. The extremly high cyclic rate makes it difficult to control, although in the hands of an experienced shooter, it is all the more deadly.
The Joker ([[Heath Ledger]]) uses a [[Glock#Glock 17|Glock 17]] that has been converted to full-auto, as the gun lacks the Glock 18's firing selector switch on the side of the slide. His tutone Glock is fitted with a G18's standard 33 round magazine. He is seen using it as his main weapon several times in the film. A fun fact, to make the gun sound more impressive, the report of a [[GE M134 Minigun]] is used to dub the gunfire of his Glock. Despite the extreme cyclic rate difference (roughly 1300rpm to 4000rpm), this sound fits quite nicely. For someone as bizarre as The Joker, the gun fits him well as it is very rare, destructive, stylish although in some ways impractical. The extremly high cyclic rate makes it difficult to control, although in the hands of an experienced shooter, it is all the more deadly.
*It would be a pretty wild assumption to say that his is a converted Glock 17 just because there isn't a visible selector lever. It is much more likely that this is supposed to be a Glock 18 and the prop gun simply didn't have a selector lever-since it's a small detail. Especially considering he fires single shots with it and that would be impossible to do with a machine pistol, converted or otherwise, unless it was a select-fire weapon.
*It would be a pretty wild assumption to say that his is a converted Glock 17 just because there isn't a visible selector lever. It is much more likely that this is supposed to be a Glock 18 and the prop gun simply didn't have a selector lever-since it's a small detail. Especially considering he fires single shots with it and that would be impossible to do with a machine pistol, converted or otherwise, unless it was a select-fire weapon.
:What do you think "prop guns" are? They're real weapons that have been converted to fire blanks. Very commonly, however, movie armorers use civilian weapons converted to auto because the real deal is more expensive/difficult to acquire, which is why you often see HK94s made to look/function like MP5s, semi-auto AR15 carbines made to look like XM177s, etc. in movies. So, the "prop gun" you see is a real Glock 17 with a nickel slide that was given some type of drop-in unit to function on auto.
**The only time he fired it single-shot, it was a flashpaper pistol.
**The only time he fired it single-shot, it was a flashpaper pistol.
[[Image:Glock_17.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Glock fitted with a chrome slide - 9mm.]]
[[Image:Glock_17.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Glock fitted with a chrome slide - 9mm.]]
One of the Joker's henchmen uses a 40mm grenade launcher to break a window and to fire a grappling hook on the bank's roof. They are later seen used once more by his men to fire a line between two buildings to take down a helicopter.
A Beretta 92FS equipped with a suppressor is used by one of The Joker's henchmen, "Happy" during the bank heist to kill "Dopey". An officer is also seen pointing his 92FS at The Joker when he takes Detective Stephens (Keith Szarabajka) hostage with a shard of glass, demanding to get his one phone call.
"Grumpy", one of The Joker's henchman in the bank heist, uses a Glock 17 to kill "Happy" in the vaults. He also uses it to hold up The Joker, suspecting he will kill him as well, only for Joker to tell him he is going to kill the bus driver. This confuses Grumpy until he is hit by a bus that smashes into the building. Several other Glocks are seen in the hands of henchmen and police throughout the film.
The Joker (Heath Ledger) uses a Glock 17 that has been converted to full-auto, as the gun lacks the Glock 18's firing selector switch on the side of the slide. His tutone Glock is fitted with a G18's standard 33 round magazine. He is seen using it as his main weapon several times in the film. A fun fact, to make the gun sound more impressive, the report of a GE M134 Minigun is used to dub the gunfire of his Glock. Despite the extreme cyclic rate difference (roughly 1300rpm to 4000rpm), this sound fits quite nicely. For someone as bizarre as The Joker, the gun fits him well as it is very rare, destructive, stylish although in some ways impractical. The extremly high cyclic rate makes it difficult to control, although in the hands of an experienced shooter, it is all the more deadly.
It would be a pretty wild assumption to say that his is a converted Glock 17 just because there isn't a visible selector lever. It is much more likely that this is supposed to be a Glock 18 and the prop gun simply didn't have a selector lever-since it's a small detail. Especially considering he fires single shots with it and that would be impossible to do with a machine pistol, converted or otherwise, unless it was a select-fire weapon.
What do you think "prop guns" are? They're real weapons that have been converted to fire blanks. Very commonly, however, movie armorers use civilian weapons converted to auto because the real deal is more expensive/difficult to acquire, which is why you often see HK94s made to look/function like MP5s, semi-auto AR15 carbines made to look like XM177s, etc. in movies. So, the "prop gun" you see is a real Glock 17 with a nickel slide that was given some type of drop-in unit to function on auto.
The only time he fired it single-shot, it was a flashpaper pistol.
Lau (Chin Han) is seen pulling a Walther P99 from his desk when Batman (Christian Bale) cuts the power in his building and fires several shots at him before all of his men are dispatched and he is captured.
During Harvey Dent's (Aaron Eckhart) introduction in a trial of Sal Maroni (Eric Roberts), the crime family leader, a witness in Maroni's payroll draws a Glock 26 cosmetically changed to look like a different gun and tries to kill Dent with it, only to discover the gun is out of working order. After dissarming the would-be shooter, Dent identifies the gun as a "Carbon fiber... 28 Caliber, made in China." Though, admittedly, this is just movie-talk, and therefore not actually pertaining to the gun.
The Joker takes a Smith & Wesson Model 19 Snub off of one of his men at Harvey Dent's fundraiser after Batman knocks him unconcious and uses it to hold Rachel Dawes (Maggie Gyllenhaal) hostage before shooting out the window behind him and dropping her out of it.
Bruce Wayne (Christian Bale) is seen using a custom built automated gun built from a GE M134 Minigun to test bullet impacts on slabs of wall to test which type of round matches the bullet he found used by The Joker to kill a police officer.
Detective Stephens (Keith Szarabajka) uses a SIG-Sauer P229 as his sidearm in the film most notabley during the funeral when The Joker's men fire at the mayor.
M4A1 carbines are used by the GCPD SWAT teams throughout the film, and police snipers during the funeral. The M4A1s are seen mainly fitted with reflex sights, foregrips, and M900 Surefire tactical lights.
Error creating thumbnail: File missingColt M4A1 with LE stock and factory grips - 5.56x45mm.File:TDKM4A1-1.pngA SWAT sniper fires his M4A1 at a window when a timer opens the shades to distract the snipers from The Joker and his men.File:TDKM4A1-2.pngA SWAT officer guards Harvey Dent in the transport van.File:TDKM4A1-3.pngA SWAT officer loads his M4A1 fitted with a Surefire M900 light before breaching the building.File:TDKM4A1-4.pngBatman disarms a SWAT member of his M4A1.File:TDKM4A1-5.pngSWAT members ride the elavator armed with M4A1s.File:TDKM4A1-6.pngSWAT members do a sweep armed with M4A1s and MP5A3s.
Heckler & Koch MP5A2
Heckler & Koch MP5A2s are used by GCPD SWAT teams and SDU teams in Hong Kong throughout the film.
Blaser 93 sniper rifles are used by the GCPD SWAT snipers over looking the building The Joker is in from the neighboring rooftop. While the poor light makes them kind of hard to see, the basic shape of the rifle and the obvious straight pull bolt-action makes it easy to identify.
Error creating thumbnail: File missingBlaser 93 - 7.62x51mm NATO.File:TDKBlazer93-1.pngA SWAT sniper trains his Blaser 93 on the "clowns", unaware they are hostages disguised as henchmen against their will.File:TDKBlazer93-2.pngA SWAT sniper waits for the order to fire.File:TDKBlazer93-3.pngAny sniper with a brain would find such easy shots bizzare. The fact they are standing still with their hands bound would likely cause suspicion as well.File:TDKBlazer93-4.pngThe sniper chambers his Blaser 93 which clearly has a straight pull bolt-action.File:TDKBlazer93-5.pngLike in most films, the rifles are shown to have lasers which reveal to the target they are under a sniper scope. In reality, lasers are very tactically unsound. Also, snipers aims for the head, not the torso (unless a headshot is not available and it clearly is here).File:TDKBlazer93-6.pngA sniper prepares to fire his Blaser 93.File:TDKBlazer93-7.pngA sniper fires his Blaser 93.
M1 Garand
The Joker (Heath Ledger) and his men use M1 Garand rifles during the assassination attempt on the Mayor while disguised as the officers who carry out the 21 gun salute salute during the funeral of Commissioner Loeb (Colin McFarlane). Since funeral procession guns are blank converted or fitted with blank adapters (they could lack both but these guns clearly fire in semi-automatic), the guns are either following the movie myth that blanks and live rounds both work in live guns, or they removed the adapters and are firing live rounds into the air for the first two volleys!
A Chinese Norinco Type 69 copy of the RPG-7 is used by the Joker during the armored car chase scene. He uses it to destroy a police cruiser, but fails to hit the armored car protecting Harvey Dent (Aaron Eckhart). When Batman (Christian Bale) joins the chase, The Joker fires on the armored car again, only to hit the Tumbler inadvertently (after Batman bridges his Tumbler in front of the van). The Tumbler damaged beyond viability, Batman is forced to switch to his secondary vehicle hidden within the Tumbler, the Batpod. For some reason, an educated SWAT member refered to this rocket propelled grenade launcher as a "bazooka".
A Ruger Mini-14 is used by one of the Batman copycats who attacks the meeting between Scarecrow and the Russians. Batman twists the barrel on the rifle with his super-strength gadget before knocking him out.
During the bank robbery, the Bank Manager (William Fichtner) uses a sawed-off Remington 870 shotgun (unless this guy is paying his class 3 license, this gun is illegal) to kill "Chuckles" and fires at Joker and Grumpy, firing five shots in total. Grumpy asks Joker if he is out and when he jumps up to fire, an unexpected sixth round grazes him before Joker shooters him. After he kills his remaining men, Joker takes the shotgun for himself. He is later seen using it to gun down a traffic cop who walks up to his semi-truck and to fire at the SWAT van transporting Harvey Dent before switching to his RPG. Multiple times in the film he is seen firing the gun with one hand, which in reality would kick the pump back most every time. Since blanks produce little to no recoil, this factor doesn't present a problem in movie guns.
-Last I checked, William Fichtner's character was a criminal, and I don't really think criminals could give a you-know-what about their firearms licenses and tax stamps
Remington 870 shotguns are seen as the standard long arms of the Gotham City Police Department. One of the Batman copycats is also seen firing one during the meeting between the Russians and Scarecrow.
File:TDKRemington870-1.pngOne of the Batman look alikes fires a Remington 870.File:TDKRemington870-2.pngGCPD officers stand guard armed with Remington 870s.File:TDKRemington870-3.pngGCPD officers stand guard armed with Remington 870s.File:TDKRemington870-4.pngAn officer escorts Mike Engel (Anthony Michael Hall) armed with a Remington 870 after The Joker demands he is killed within the hour or a hospital is blown up.File:TDKRemington870-5.pngOfficer Berg Ramirez (Matt Shallenberger) checks the chamber on his Remington 870 while escorting Engel. This actually shows that the gun is empty because opening the chamber with a round in it brings the next round into action, forcing you to have to finish opening the breech and eject the shell.File:TDKRemington870-6.pngA SWAT member with his Remington 870 at the ready.
Double Barrel Shotgun
A Double Barrel Shotgun is seen wielded by one of The Joker's henchmen at the fundraiser. Bruce Wayne (Christian Bale) disarms the henchmen of the shotgun and then disassembles the gun. This gun was likely selected because it is arguabley one of the simplest guns to disassemble of many.
Mossberg 500s can be seen in the hands of the correctional officers on the carrier guarding both the civilian boat and the convict boat. GCPD SWAT are also seen with tactially outfitted Mossberg 500s.
The Joker (Heath Ledger) uses a Smith & Wesson M76 stored in his semi-truck to fire several shots at Batman's Batpod and several civilian cars before Batman crashes and Joker ditches the gun in favor of his knife. One of Scarecrow's men is also seen armed with one during the meeting with the Russians. Like the modified Glock 17 listed above, the report of a GE M134 Minigun is dubbed over for the sound of the gun.
Error creating thumbnail: File missingSmith & Wesson M76 - 9mm.File:TDKS&WM76-1.pngOne of Scarecrows men armed with a Smith & Wesson M76.File:TDKS&WM76-2.pngDue to The Joker's lack of gunsafety knowledge (or care), he never keeps his finger off the trigger and when he falls trying to get out of his overturned semi-truck, he lets off a burst from his Smith & Wesson M76.File:TDKS&WM76-3.pngThe Joker fires his Smith & Wesson M76.File:TDKS&WM76-4.pngJoker with his Smith & Wesson M76.
MAC-11
"Chuckles", one of Joker's henchmen, uses a MAC-11 during the bank robbery before being gunned down by the Bank Manager.
Receivers look kinda big. I think they're more likely MAC-10s, as you guessed when you took the caps. Also, please link to specific guns by using the "#" after the name of the gun page and then putting the variant after that. -MT2008 02:59, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
I know I should do that but I get lazy. This page has taken me a strangely long time to do. I'll be sure to do that from now on. - Gunmaster45
Many of Joker's men use MAC-10s through out the film. Several of the hostages towards the end of the film disguised as clowns are seen with MAC-10s taped in their hands.
Error creating thumbnail: File missingMAC-10 - .45 ACP.File:TDKMAC10-3.pngOne of The Joker's men points a MAC-10 at the party goers during the fundraiser.File:TDKMAC10-4.pngOne of the hostages disguised as a clown tries to pull the MAC-10 taped to their hands off as the SWAT team enter.File:TDKMAC10-5.pngOne of The Joker's men points his MAC-10 at the SWAT as they fall through the floor.
Beretta PM12S
Several of The Joker's men are seen using Beretta PM12S submachine guns throughout the film.
Error creating thumbnail: File missingBeretta PM12S - 9mm.File:TDKPM12S-1.pngOne of The Joker's men holds a Beretta PM12S on the party goers at the fundraiser. Apparently they didn't have enough plastic clown masks in stock and had to paint pantyhose instead.File:TDKPM12S-2.pngOne of The Joker's men disguised as a doctor readies his Beretta PM12S as the SWAT enters.File:TDKPM12S-3.pngOne of Joker's men readies his PM12S.File:TDKPM12S-4.pngThe thug with his PM12S.
Smith & Wesson Model 10
Several officers in Hong Kong following the SDU teams are seen using Smith & Wesson Model 10 revolvers with heavy barrels and rubber grips.
Error creating thumbnail: File missingSmith & Wesson Model 10 Hong Kong issued, tapered barrel - .38 Special.File:TDKS&W10-1.pngA lobby guard in Lau's building is seen with a rubber gripped Smith & Wesson Model 10 in his holster.File:TDKS&W10-2.pngA Hong Kong officer points his Smith & Wesson Model 10 at Batman.
The Joker's Grenades
The Joker, a man of simple things, favors his explosives. Mainly grenades. During the bank robbery, he brings a duffle bag filled with grenades including Mk 2 hand grenades, M26 hand grenades, and M67 hand grenades, which he primes in the bank goers' hands so they are forced to hold the primer handles on. Later when facing the major mob bosses during their meeting, he manages to stop them from attacking by revealing many of these grenades attached to the inside of his jacket, all stringed to the ring attached to his finger.
