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[[Image:ColtCommander1911.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Commander .45 ACP]]
[[Image:ColtCommander1911.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt Commander .45 ACP]]
[[Image:Thief-COLCOMM-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|When Frank draws his custom longslide, a Colt Commander is also seen in the hidden compartment.]]
[[Image:Thief-COLCOMM-1.jpg|thumb|none|601px|When Frank draws his custom longslide, a Colt Commander is also seen in the hidden compartment.]]
[[Image:Thief_cc.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Frank ([[James Caan]]) flashes his chromed Colt Combat Commander on a bar bouncer ([[William Petersen]] in his acting debut).]]
[[Image:Thief_cc.jpg|thumb|600px|none|Frank ([[James Caan]]) flashes his chromed Colt Combat Commander on a bar bouncer ([[William Petersen]] in his acting debut).]]
[[Image:Thief-M1CAR-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Frank with his Commander as he gets knocked out by the mobster.]]
[[Image:Thief-M1CAR-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Frank with his Commander as he gets knocked out by the mobster.]]

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Thief (1981)

Thief is the 1981 film that marked the large screen directorial debut of Michael Mann. The crime thriller stars James Caan as Frank, an experienced free-lance jewel thief who is convinced to perform high level jobs for a Chicago mobster. Mann, who would go on to direct such crime films as Heat and Collateral, brought to this film a level of attention to detail, especially in firearms, rarely seen in Hollywood productions at the time. He is supposedly a certified range instructor himself, but for this film, he had actor Caan try to attend the American Pistol Institute (a/k/a "Gunsite"), the celebrated firearms training facility founded by Jeff Cooper in the Arizona High Desert north of Chino Valley to instruct in the "Modern Technique of the Pistol." When Cooper learned that the film's protagonist was a career criminal, he reasoned that a thief would never be exposed to the Modern Technique and declined to instruct Cann. Galen D. "Chuck" Taylor, Cooper's operations manager at the time and later a well-known instructor himself, then agreed to take Cann off-site and teach him the rudiments of what the actor performs in the film. Taylor's instruction is obvious, as Cann uses an exaggerated Weaver Stance, high thumbhold grip, speed reloading, and room clearing techniques directly attributable to the Modern Technique taught at API. "I didn't actually have to do any of this," Cann told a radio interviewer during a publicity tour for Thief -- "I just needed to look like I knew what I was doing!"

The following guns were used in the movie Thief:




Custom Jim Hoag M1911A1

One of the guns used by the main character, Frank (James Caan), is a 6" long slide M1911A1 pistol customized by California gunsmith Jim Hoag. There is a long vertical cutout on the skeletonized trigger, which means the pistol is most likely a Colt Gold Cup National Match, or just used such a trigger. Hoag Gun Works modified the pistol by lengthening the slide, squaring the trigger guard, adding a Bo-Mar adjustable rear sight, skeletonized hammer and beavertail grip safety. If this pistol is indeed a Gold Cup, then it is presumably chambered in .45 ACP.

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Colt Gold Cup National Match - probably the base pistol for the custom Hoag longslide used in the film.
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Airsoft Long Slide 1911A1 replica, very similar to what Frank used in the film.
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Frank (James Caan) does a brass check on his Hoag M1911A1. Before going into Attaglia's business. Note that in the film, this is supposed to be the long slide pistol, but it is actually a normal Colt Gold Cup NM in this brief scene. Note the way he does a brass check, thumb in trigger guard, fingers in front of muzzle. At the time of filming this was the taught method, but is no longer taught anymore.
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Frank holds his custom 1911A1 on Attaglia, demanding his money.
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Best view of Frank's (James Caan) longslide M1911A1, as he clears the rooms in Leo's home.
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Like in the scene when he does a brass check, his longslide 1911A1 changes to a normal Colt Gold Cup NM when clearing the rooms.
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Frank aims his longslide 1911A1 on a wounded Leo.
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Frank fires his longslide 1911A1 at Leo. This is the first movie that director Michael Mann would have a character perform the "Mozambique Drill" or "Failure Drill", meaning two in the sternum, and one in the head.
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Frank changing out a magazine outside Leo's home. Note that the slide isn't locked back, he only fired 5 to 6 rounds prior. So he would have 1 to 2 rounds remaining depending on how he loaded his gun. Frank is smart enough to swap in a fully loaded magazine at the opportune time rather than run out in the middle of the gun fight and then try to reload.
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Frank loading in a fresh magazine.

Colt Combat Commander

When Frank (James Caan) first goes to visit Attaglia (Tom Signorelli) about his money, a Colt Commander is seen in the hidden compartment of the door panel. In one brief scene, Frank flashes the Colt Combat Commander at a nightclub bouncer played by a young William Petersen. Frank is later seen with at his car lot when he is looking for Barry (James Belushi). But he is unable to use it because he gets knocked out by a mobster with an M1 Carbine. It looks like the stainless model, but I don't think stainless CC's were available in 1980, so it's probably a chromed finish. It has a Bo-Mar adjustable rear sight, and custom skeletonized hammer. Even though the entire pistol cannot be seen, due to the crease in Frank's waistband and the shadow it casts, it appears to be the shorter slide of a Combat Commander.

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Colt Commander .45 ACP
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When Frank draws his custom longslide, a Colt Commander is also seen in the hidden compartment.
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Frank (James Caan) flashes his chromed Colt Combat Commander on a bar bouncer (William Petersen in his acting debut).
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Frank with his Commander as he gets knocked out by the mobster.

High Standard Model 10

A High Standard Model 10 shotgun is used by Carl (Dennis Farina) at Frank's car dealership and the final shootout. This film was Dennis Farina's first acting role. His role as a mobster in the film is somewhat ironic as Farina worked for 18 years as an officer in the Chicago Police Department.

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High Standard Model 10
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Carl fires his High Standard Model 10 at Barry.
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Carl with his High Standard Model 10 outside Leo's home.
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Closeup of the High Standard Model 10.

Smith & Wesson Model 19

Leo (Robert Prosky) uses a Smith & Wesson Model 19 with pearl grips at the end of the film.

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Smith & Wesson Model 19 - .357 Magnum
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Leo draws his Smith & Wesson Model 19.
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Leo fires his Smith & Wesson Model 19 at Frank.
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A wounded Leo aims his Smith & Wesson Model 19 at Frank.
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Best view of the Smith & Wesson Model 19.

Smith & Wesson Model 19 Snub Nose

Attaglia (Tom Signorelli) carries a Smith & Wesson Model 19 Snub Nose in the film. It's mostly tucked in his waistband so it's hard to tell.

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Smith & Wesson Model 19 Snub Nose (right side).
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Smith & Wesson Model 19 tucked in his waistband.
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Attaglia draws his Smith & Wesson Model 19 after being knocked out by Frank.

Remington 870 Shotgun

Sgt. Urizzi (John Santucci) is seen armed with a Remington 870 Shotgun when he pulls over Frank (James Caan). John Santucci's role as a police officer in the film is contradictory as to what he was in real life, a former thief. In addition to being a technical advisor for the film, most of the tools used by Frank (James Caan) to crack the safes were his; in fact, at one point in his criminal career he was actually arrested by Dennis Farina while the latter was working with the Chicago PD.

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Remington 870 Police Magnum - 12 gauge.
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Sgt. Urizzi holds a Remington 870 Shotgun on Frank.

M1 Carbine

An M1 Carbine is used by one of the mobsters at Frank's car dealership.

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M1 Carbine
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The mobster taking cover armed with an M1 Carbine.
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The mobster hits Frank in the back of the head with his M1 Carbine. The rifle appears to bend at the stock, mostly likely indicating a rubber stunt prop, understandable given how you wouldn't want to clout James Caan around the head with a real weapon.

Unknown Rifle

Barry (James Belushi) uses an unknown rifle to cover Frank during his exchange with Leo and Attaglia at the harbor. The script refers to it as an "H&K .308 assault rifle", so it could very well be a G3 variant, most likely an HK91

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