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== AKM == | == AKM == | ||
[[AK-47#AKM|AKM]] rifles are used by the Taliban operating in Afghanistan. | [[AK-47#AKM|AKM]] rifles are used by the Taliban operating in Afghanistan. Cuban soldiers in Michael Malone's ([[Kevin P. Farley]]) documentary "Die, You American Pigs" are also armed with AKM rifles. | ||
[[Image:AKMRifle.jpg|thumb|none|450px|AKM, Stamped Steel Receiver w/ slant muzzle brake 7.62x39mm]] | [[Image:AKMRifle.jpg|thumb|none|450px|AKM, Stamped Steel Receiver w/ slant muzzle brake 7.62x39mm]] | ||
[[Image:AC-AKMAfghan01a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|AKMs are seen carried by Taliban members.]] | [[Image:AC-AKMAfghan01a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|AKMs are seen carried by Taliban members.]] | ||
[[Image:AC-AKMlineA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | [[Image:AC-AKMlineA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
[[Image:AC-AKMsA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cuban Soldiers carry AKMs as Michael Malone prepares to leave back for America. | [[Image:AC-AKMsA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cuban Soldiers carry AKMs as Michael Malone prepares to leave back for America. The soldier to the left is veteran stuntman [[Thomas Rosales Jr.]] of ''[[Predator 2]]'' fame.]] | ||
[[Image:AC-POPE-AKa.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Michael Malone ([[Kevin P. Farley]]) is interviewed by Bill O'Reilly, we see a graphic in the background with Pope Benedict XVI holding an AKM aloft.]] | [[Image:AC-POPE-AKa.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Michael Malone ([[Kevin P. Farley]]) is interviewed by Bill O'Reilly, we see a graphic in the background with Pope Benedict XVI holding an AKM aloft.]] | ||
==AKMS== | ==AKMS== | ||
The AKMS is the folding stock variant of the AKM rifle. | The AKMS is the folding stock variant of the AKM rifle. It is also seen used by Taliban members. | ||
[[Image:AKMS.jpg|thumb|none|450px|AKMS, stamped steel receiver w/ slant muzzle brake and under-folding stock - 7.62x39mm]] | [[Image:AKMS.jpg|thumb|none|450px|AKMS, stamped steel receiver w/ slant muzzle brake and under-folding stock - 7.62x39mm]] | ||
[[Image:AC-AKMAfghan02a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Aziz ([[Robert Davi]]) carries a folding stock AKMS as he tries to persuade "Terrorist on Bike" ([[Oren Rehany]]) to ride down the mountain with a bomb vest and no brakes.]] | [[Image:AC-AKMAfghan02a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Aziz ([[Robert Davi]]) carries a folding stock AKMS as he tries to persuade "Terrorist on Bike" ([[Oren Rehany]]) to ride down the mountain with a bomb vest and no brakes.]] | ||
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==Winchester Model 1897 Trench Gun== | ==Winchester Model 1897 Trench Gun== | ||
General Patton ([[Kelsey Grammer]]) and a group of World War II GIs fight off ACLU zombies with Winchester Model 1897 Trench guns. | General Patton ([[Kelsey Grammer]]) and a group of World War II GIs fight off ACLU zombies with Winchester Model 1897 Trench guns. | ||
[[Image:Winchester1897TrenchTakedown.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Winchester Model 1897 "Trench Gun" - 12 gauge. | [[Image:Winchester1897TrenchTakedown.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Winchester Model 1897 "Trench Gun" - 12 gauge. This is an original mint condition 1935 Manufacture commercial trench gun by Winchester.]] | ||
[[Image:AC-TrenchGunsA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | [[Image:AC-TrenchGunsA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
[[Image:AC-TrenchLineupA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | [[Image:AC-TrenchLineupA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
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==M16A1== | ==M16A1== | ||
During a country western music concert to benefit American troops, Michael Malone sees the ghosts of Servicemen past watching over their modern counterparts. | During a country western music concert to benefit American troops, Michael Malone sees the ghosts of Servicemen past watching over their modern counterparts. Only Malone can see the spirits of the soldiers and sailors from previous American conflicts, none of the other concert goers can see them. One of the first armed 'ghosts' he sees is a Vietnam era soldier, holding an [[M16|M16A1]] rifle - 5.56x45mm | ||
[[Image:M16A1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|M16A1 with 20 round magazine - 5.56x45mm]] | [[Image:M16A1.jpg|thumb|none|450px|M16A1 with 20 round magazine - 5.56x45mm]] | ||
[[Image:AC-M16A1a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | [[Image:AC-M16A1a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
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== M1903 Springfield == | == M1903 Springfield == | ||
During the same concert, Malone sees the ghosts of two World War I era troops are seen with [[M1903 Springfield]] rifles. | During the same concert, Malone sees the ghosts of two World War I era troops are seen with [[M1903 Springfield]] rifles. One seems to have a transitional pattern M1903 and the second ghost soldier holds an Mk1. | ||
[[Image:M1903Mark1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Springfield M1903 Mk 1 - .30-06]] | [[Image:M1903Mark1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Springfield M1903 Mk 1 - .30-06]] | ||
[[Image:AC-WW1SoldiersA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | [[Image:AC-WW1SoldiersA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
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==1728 First Model Brown Bess== | ==1728 First Model Brown Bess== | ||
Revolutionary war solders are seen at the end armed with 1728 British Land Pattern Musket aka the venerable "Brown Bess". | Revolutionary war solders are seen at the end armed with 1728 British Land Pattern Musket aka the venerable "Brown Bess". These are the earliest models with the brass end cap and extended lock shape. | ||
[[Image:BrownBessInfantry-Musket-1722-1768.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A modern reproduction "Long Land Pattern" Brown Bess Infantry musket made from 1722-1768 - .75 caliber.]] | [[Image:BrownBessInfantry-Musket-1722-1768.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A modern reproduction "Long Land Pattern" Brown Bess Infantry musket made from 1722-1768 - .75 caliber.]] | ||
[[Image:AC-RevWara.jpg|thumb|none|600px|As the camera tracks to the right, we see the two Revolutionary War Soldiers wielding 1728 British Land Pattern Musket aka the venerable "Brown Bess".]] | [[Image:AC-RevWara.jpg|thumb|none|600px|As the camera tracks to the right, we see the two Revolutionary War Soldiers wielding 1728 British Land Pattern Musket aka the venerable "Brown Bess".]] | ||
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===Type 95 Light Tank HA-GO=== | ===Type 95 Light Tank HA-GO=== | ||
When General Patton walks Malone down the street after the signing of the infamous '''Munich Agreement of 1938''', ''(where British PM Chamberlain all but capitulated to Adolf Hitler's demands)'', the pair walks past a series of armored vehicles and trucks being loaded by German troops. | When General Patton walks Malone down the street after the signing of the infamous '''Munich Agreement of 1938''', ''(where British PM Chamberlain all but capitulated to Adolf Hitler's demands)'', the pair walks past a series of armored vehicles and trucks being loaded by German troops. Incredibly, and rather anachronistically, there is an ultra rare '''Imperial Japanese Type 95 Light Tank''' (called the "Ha-Go"), that was mostly seen in Manchuria. It sported a 37mm main gun and a 7.7mm machine gun. Why it is there in the background with an anachronistic German Iron Cross on the body is a good question. | ||
[[Image:AC-IJATank2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Patton and Malone walk past an Imperial Japanese Type 95 Light Tank "Ha-Go" with a German Iron Cross emblem on the side of the body. | [[Image:AC-IJATank2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Patton and Malone walk past an Imperial Japanese Type 95 Light Tank "Ha-Go" with a German Iron Cross emblem on the side of the body. The Paint job is a perfect copy of the correct early war Imperial Japanese camo scheme and we can see the external muffler of the Ha Go.]] | ||
[[Image:AC-HagoA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the Imperial Japanese Type 95 Light Tank showing the 7.7mm secondary machine gun.]] | [[Image:AC-HagoA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the Imperial Japanese Type 95 Light Tank showing the 7.7mm secondary machine gun.]] | ||
==Trivia== | ==Trivia== | ||
===Inaccuracies regarding WW2 uniforms and conduct=== | ===Inaccuracies regarding WW2 uniforms and conduct=== | ||
* Despite being a fantastical comedy / farce, the uniforms of the major dictators was unusual in that the color red was essentially 'de-saturated' from their clothing. | * Despite being a fantastical comedy / farce, the uniforms of the major dictators was unusual in that the color red was essentially 'de-saturated' from their clothing. Tojo's brown uniform was grey, and his red collar tabs were also grey. Hitler's Mustard brown coat also seem missing the red as well as the NSDAP arm band. Mussolini's arm patch would have red stripes, but it has grey ones. This 'could' have been an intentional choice to show that they are 'ghosts' of the past, but it is worth mentioning. As for the 'guards' or adjutants, German Heer or SS officers don't hold a posture like U.S. Marines, when at a meeting. When not 'at arms' (i.e. not wearing their belts and pistols or other military weapons) they would have their hats off and arms to the side. | ||
[[Image:AC-WW2UniformsA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The color is 'off' on the uniforms. | [[Image:AC-WW2UniformsA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The color is 'off' on the uniforms. Note that the Swastika arm bands have no 'red'.]] | ||
Revision as of 08:21, 17 April 2012
The following weapons were seen in the film An American Carol:
AKM
AKM rifles are used by the Taliban operating in Afghanistan. Cuban soldiers in Michael Malone's (Kevin P. Farley) documentary "Die, You American Pigs" are also armed with AKM rifles.
AKMS
The AKMS is the folding stock variant of the AKM rifle. It is also seen used by Taliban members.
Romanian AIMS
A Romanian AIMS (the side folding stock Romanian version of the AKM) is seen in a pile of training materials captured in Afghanistan.
Single Action Army
General George S. Patton (Kelsey Grammer) carries a Single Action Army revolver (likely a Cimarron reproduction) throughout the film, at one point contemplating shooting Michael Malone with it.
Winchester Model 1897 Trench Gun
General Patton (Kelsey Grammer) and a group of World War II GIs fight off ACLU zombies with Winchester Model 1897 Trench guns.
Remington 870
When the ACLU zombies are attacking people in court, the judge (Dennis Hopper) uses a Remington 870 shotgun, handing one to Malone.
M4 Carbine
When Michael and Patton travel to Afghanistan numerous American soldiers are seen armed with M4 Carbines.
M16A1
During a country western music concert to benefit American troops, Michael Malone sees the ghosts of Servicemen past watching over their modern counterparts. Only Malone can see the spirits of the soldiers and sailors from previous American conflicts, none of the other concert goers can see them. One of the first armed 'ghosts' he sees is a Vietnam era soldier, holding an M16A1 rifle - 5.56x45mm
M1 Carbine
During the same concert, Malone sees the ghosts of two Korean War veterans, holding post WW2 M1 Carbines.
M1 Garand
During the same concert, Malone sees a single ghost of of a World War 2 Soldier, carrying an M1 Garand rifle.
M1903 Springfield
During the same concert, Malone sees the ghosts of two World War I era troops are seen with M1903 Springfield rifles. One seems to have a transitional pattern M1903 and the second ghost soldier holds an Mk1.
Mauser Kar98k
Mauser Kar98k rifles were seen slung over the shoulders of German soldiers in 1938 when Michael Malone was thrown out of the window of the infamous 1938 Munich Agreement (where British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain appeased Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany) by General Patton. Two Kar98ks were see resting on a German tank during the 1938 Munich agreement scenes.
.577 Enfield Musket
During the same concert, Malone sees the ghosts of two Union soldiers from the American Civil War, both carry the .577 Enfield Musket (which was commonly used to supplement the 58 Springfield musket that was the issued long gun of the "blue coats").
1728 First Model Brown Bess
Revolutionary war solders are seen at the end armed with 1728 British Land Pattern Musket aka the venerable "Brown Bess". These are the earliest models with the brass end cap and extended lock shape.
BGM 71 TOW Launcher
A BGM 71 TOW Launcher is seen in the American military camp in Kandahar.
Chinese Type 69 RPG
A Taliban members is briefly seen in the background carrying a Chinese Type 69 Rocket Launcher - 40mm.
Gun Platforms
Type 95 Light Tank HA-GO
When General Patton walks Malone down the street after the signing of the infamous Munich Agreement of 1938, (where British PM Chamberlain all but capitulated to Adolf Hitler's demands), the pair walks past a series of armored vehicles and trucks being loaded by German troops. Incredibly, and rather anachronistically, there is an ultra rare Imperial Japanese Type 95 Light Tank (called the "Ha-Go"), that was mostly seen in Manchuria. It sported a 37mm main gun and a 7.7mm machine gun. Why it is there in the background with an anachronistic German Iron Cross on the body is a good question.
Trivia
Inaccuracies regarding WW2 uniforms and conduct
- Despite being a fantastical comedy / farce, the uniforms of the major dictators was unusual in that the color red was essentially 'de-saturated' from their clothing. Tojo's brown uniform was grey, and his red collar tabs were also grey. Hitler's Mustard brown coat also seem missing the red as well as the NSDAP arm band. Mussolini's arm patch would have red stripes, but it has grey ones. This 'could' have been an intentional choice to show that they are 'ghosts' of the past, but it is worth mentioning. As for the 'guards' or adjutants, German Heer or SS officers don't hold a posture like U.S. Marines, when at a meeting. When not 'at arms' (i.e. not wearing their belts and pistols or other military weapons) they would have their hats off and arms to the side.
