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[[Image:CzechSA24 SMG.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Czech Sa.24 Submachine Gun - 9x19mm.  The 24 Model indicates a folding stock. The slide on the front handguard is a speedloader for magazines.]]
[[Image:CzechSA24 SMG.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Czech Sa.25 Submachine Gun - 9x19mm.  The 25 Model indicates a folding stock. The slide on the front handguard is a speedloader for magazines.]]
[[Image:CZ Sa. 24 submachine gun.JPG|thumb|right|400px|Czechoslovakian Sa.25 (a 7.62x25mm version of the Sa.23) submachine gun.]]
[[Image:CZ Sa. 24 submachine gun.JPG|thumb|right|400px|Czechoslovakian Sa.24 (a 7.62x25mm version of the Sa.23) submachine gun.]]
Just after World War II, Czech arms designer Vaclav Holek developed an indigenous submachine gun patterned after the various blowback conventional designs of the time (the MP40, the Sten, etc.)  but with some innovative updates.  The '''Sa.23''' was the first Submachine gun in full production to have the magazine well in the pistol grip and a wrap around bolt, despite the fact that the British MCEM was the first prototype to adopt these features.  The original Sa.23/Sa.24 guns were chambered in 9mm Parabellum (which made it popular for export to western or non-aligned nations, but eventually the Soviet Union pressured Czechoslovakia to adopt an 'approved' Warsaw Pact caliber, so the submachine gun was modified to fire the 7.62x25mm Tokarev round.  The later 7.62x25mm versions were named the Sa.25 (full stock) and Sa.26 (folding stock).  The later 7.62x25mm TT versions are identifiable due to the obvious forward slant of the pistol grip and magazine to accommodate the shape of the new ammunition.  The older 9mm versions (and some of the surplus 7.62x25mm ones as well) were sold world wide, with most of the 9mm guns ending up in the hands of countries like Chile, Lebanon and South Africa.  Most of the 7.62x25mm versions went to Soviet client states like Cuba, Cambodia, and Libya.  South Africa tried to market a '''semi auto only version''' of the Sa.24 (9mm Folding stock) called the '''Sanna-77''', but it was a commercial failure (and the chances of it appearing in a film is slim to none).
Just after World War II, Czech arms designer Vaclav Holek developed an indigenous submachine gun patterned after the various blowback conventional designs of the time (the MP40, the Sten, etc.)  but with some innovative updates.  The '''Sa.23''' was the first Submachine gun in full production to have the magazine well in the pistol grip and a wrap around bolt, despite the fact that the British MCEM was the first prototype to adopt these features.  The original Sa.23/Sa.25 guns were chambered in 9mm Parabellum (which made it popular for export to western or non-aligned nations, but eventually the Soviet Union pressured Czechoslovakia to adopt an 'approved' Warsaw Pact caliber, so the submachine gun was modified to fire the 7.62x25mm Tokarev round.  The later 7.62x25mm versions were named the Sa.24 (full stock) and Sa.26 (folding stock).  The later 7.62x25mm TT versions are identifiable due to the obvious forward slant of the pistol grip and magazine to accommodate the shape of the new ammunition.  The older 9mm versions (and some of the surplus 7.62x25mm ones as well) were sold world wide, with most of the 9mm guns ending up in the hands of countries like Chile, Lebanon and South Africa.  Most of the 7.62x25mm versions went to Soviet client states like Cuba, Cambodia, and Libya.  South Africa tried to market a '''semi auto only version''' of the Sa.25 (9mm Folding stock) called the '''Sanna-77''', but it was a commercial failure (and the chances of it appearing in a film is slim to none).


* Sa.23 Full stock 9mm Version
* Sa.23 Full stock 9mm Version
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===Film===
===Film===


* Various Mercenaries in ''[[The Wild Geese]]'' (Sa.23 9mm Full stock version and Sa.24 9mm Folding stock Version)
* Various Mercenaries in ''[[The Wild Geese]]'' (Sa.23 9mm Full stock version and Sa.25 9mm Folding stock Version)


* [[Sean Connery]] as James Bond at the start of ''[[Never Say Never Again]]''
* [[Sean Connery]] as James Bond at the start of ''[[Never Say Never Again]]''
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* An American soldier in ''[[Solo Voyage]]'' (Sa.24 model)
* An American soldier in ''[[Solo Voyage]]'' (Sa.24 model)


* Assassins in ''[[Hidden Assassin]]'' (Sa.24 model) (1995)
* Assassins in ''[[Hidden Assassin]]'' (Sa.25 model) (1995)


* [[Dolph Lundgren]] as Michael Dane in ''[[Hidden Assassin]]'' (Sa.24 model) (1995)
* [[Dolph Lundgren]] as Michael Dane in ''[[Hidden Assassin]]'' (Sa.25 model) (1995)


* [[Gavan O'Herlihy]] as Dick Powell in ''[[Hidden Assassin]]'' (Sa.24 model) (1995)
* [[Gavan O'Herlihy]] as Dick Powell in ''[[Hidden Assassin]]'' (Sa.25 model) (1995)


* ''[[Klaus Kinski]]'' as ''[[Wilfried Böse]]'' in ''[[Operation Thunderbolt]]'' (Probably Sa.24 9mm Folding stock Version)
* ''[[Klaus Kinski]]'' as ''[[Wilfried Böse]]'' in ''[[Operation Thunderbolt]]'' (Probably Sa.24 9mm Folding stock Version)

Revision as of 15:19, 15 April 2012

File:CzechSA24 SMG.jpg
Czech Sa.25 Submachine Gun - 9x19mm. The 25 Model indicates a folding stock. The slide on the front handguard is a speedloader for magazines.
File:CZ Sa. 24 submachine gun.JPG
Czechoslovakian Sa.24 (a 7.62x25mm version of the Sa.23) submachine gun.

Just after World War II, Czech arms designer Vaclav Holek developed an indigenous submachine gun patterned after the various blowback conventional designs of the time (the MP40, the Sten, etc.) but with some innovative updates. The Sa.23 was the first Submachine gun in full production to have the magazine well in the pistol grip and a wrap around bolt, despite the fact that the British MCEM was the first prototype to adopt these features. The original Sa.23/Sa.25 guns were chambered in 9mm Parabellum (which made it popular for export to western or non-aligned nations, but eventually the Soviet Union pressured Czechoslovakia to adopt an 'approved' Warsaw Pact caliber, so the submachine gun was modified to fire the 7.62x25mm Tokarev round. The later 7.62x25mm versions were named the Sa.24 (full stock) and Sa.26 (folding stock). The later 7.62x25mm TT versions are identifiable due to the obvious forward slant of the pistol grip and magazine to accommodate the shape of the new ammunition. The older 9mm versions (and some of the surplus 7.62x25mm ones as well) were sold world wide, with most of the 9mm guns ending up in the hands of countries like Chile, Lebanon and South Africa. Most of the 7.62x25mm versions went to Soviet client states like Cuba, Cambodia, and Libya. South Africa tried to market a semi auto only version of the Sa.25 (9mm Folding stock) called the Sanna-77, but it was a commercial failure (and the chances of it appearing in a film is slim to none).

  • Sa.23 Full stock 9mm Version
  • Sa.25 Folding stock 9mm Version
  • Sa.24 Full Stock 7.62x25mm Tokarev Version
  • Sa.26 Folding stock 7.62x25mm Tokarev Version

The Sa.23 series of submachine gun can be seen in:

Film

  • Various Mercenaries in The Wild Geese (Sa.23 9mm Full stock version and Sa.25 9mm Folding stock Version)
  • Various Guards and prisoners in Chained Heat 2 (Sa.24s and possibly some Sa.26 Models)

Television

Video Games