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ALL good points. Like Funkychinaman said, this is for the average movie goes and is to help IDENTIFY the guns. NOT a history lesson in which guns are a direct variant of another, though we can certainly mention on the page that the RPD (for example) is NOT a version of the AK, but simply resembles the gun. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 10:15, 27 March 2012 (CDT) | ALL good points. Like Funkychinaman said, this is for the average movie goes and is to help IDENTIFY the guns. NOT a history lesson in which guns are a direct variant of another, though we can certainly mention on the page that the RPD (for example) is NOT a version of the AK, but simply resembles the gun. --[[User:Zackmann08|Zackmann08]] 10:15, 27 March 2012 (CDT) | ||
:I still do think we should have one section for actual AKs and derivatives, and another for similar weapons often mistaken for AKs. I know we're not supposed to be a weapons encyclopedia, but we can at least acknowledge that we know they're not related. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 11:20, 27 March 2012 (CDT) | :I still do think we should have one section for actual AKs and derivatives, and another for similar weapons often mistaken for AKs. I know we're not supposed to be a weapons encyclopedia, but we can at least acknowledge that we know they're not related. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 11:20, 27 March 2012 (CDT) | ||
IMHO I think they should stay on the page, except for the RPD as I don't think you could really think it was an AK variant, and it isn't like it was inspired by or designed with the same look/ergonomics of the AK-47 as it actually pre-dates it. As for the xections, I think a good split would be something like Russian rifles *ak-47, AKM, AK-74 etc.), foreign rifles (Zastava M70, Norinco Type 56, AIM etc.) and a category for those weapons that are inspired by the AK-47 but are a different design (Valmet, Sa. Vz. 58P etc.). I don't know what to call the last group, as "other" makes it seem like something other than Russian or foreign which makes no sense, maybe "AK inspired rifles" or something like that, or "AK derivatives"? --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 12:53, 27 March 2012 (CDT) | |||
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Um...This seems a little too broad, what are the Dragunov and AS Val doing on a page about AK variants? I doubt even the average non-gunny moviegoer is going to look at an SVD and think it's an AK, though the average journalist might. Evil Tim 05:44, 27 March 2012 (CDT)
- I totally get and respect what you are saying. As always, if you think it truly doesn't belong here, please remove it. Personally, I think it can help to identify the gun. As I said below, this page is NOT intended to be a lesson about the history of these guns, but to be a tool to help identify them. As always I defer to the knowledge and experience of my elders. :-) --Zackmann08 10:28, 27 March 2012 (CDT)
RPD, AN-94, SVD/Tiger
RPD, AN-94 and SVD/Tiger is not versions of AK! Please, READ MORE!!! You can find info for example in Wikipedia. --Flexo 07:08, 27 March 2012 (CDT)
- As well as VSS Vintorez, AS Val, AEK-971, Sa. Vz. 58. Bednardos 15:53, 27 March 2012 (EET)
- The page is for "the average movie-goer" though. How about setting up a separate "Often Mistaken for AKs" section. --Funkychinaman 08:44, 27 March 2012 (CDT)
ALL good points. Like Funkychinaman said, this is for the average movie goes and is to help IDENTIFY the guns. NOT a history lesson in which guns are a direct variant of another, though we can certainly mention on the page that the RPD (for example) is NOT a version of the AK, but simply resembles the gun. --Zackmann08 10:15, 27 March 2012 (CDT)
- I still do think we should have one section for actual AKs and derivatives, and another for similar weapons often mistaken for AKs. I know we're not supposed to be a weapons encyclopedia, but we can at least acknowledge that we know they're not related. --Funkychinaman 11:20, 27 March 2012 (CDT)
IMHO I think they should stay on the page, except for the RPD as I don't think you could really think it was an AK variant, and it isn't like it was inspired by or designed with the same look/ergonomics of the AK-47 as it actually pre-dates it. As for the xections, I think a good split would be something like Russian rifles *ak-47, AKM, AK-74 etc.), foreign rifles (Zastava M70, Norinco Type 56, AIM etc.) and a category for those weapons that are inspired by the AK-47 but are a different design (Valmet, Sa. Vz. 58P etc.). I don't know what to call the last group, as "other" makes it seem like something other than Russian or foreign which makes no sense, maybe "AK inspired rifles" or something like that, or "AK derivatives"? --commando552 12:53, 27 March 2012 (CDT)