| Error creating thumbnail: File missing Join our Discord! |
| If you have been locked out of your account you can request a password reset here. |
Die Hard 2: Difference between revisions
| Line 24: | Line 24: | ||
== Glock 17 == | == Glock 17 == | ||
Colonel Stuart ([[William Sadler]]) and the mercenaries under his command use [[Glock 17]] pistols as their sidearms. This is one of the earliest appearances of the handgun in a major Hollywood film (it had just been featured in 1989's ''[[Johnny Handsome]]''). In a now-notorious scene midway through the film, McClane ([[Bruce Willis]]) incorrectly identifies it to Chief Lorenzo ([[Dennis Franz]]) as a "Glock 7," (no such model exists) and recites a string of inaccuracies, describing it as ''"A porcelain gun made in Germany that doesn't show up on your airport metal detectors and costs more than you make in a month."'' | |||
The most glaring misconception is that the weapon is undetectable to the X-Ray machines at the airport, while in reality, Glock never produced such a handgun. In fact, 83.7% (by weight) of the Glock pistol is normal ordnance steel and the "plastic" parts are a dense polymer known as "Polymer 2", which is radio-opaque and is therefore visible to X-ray security equipment. In addition, virtually all of these "plastic" parts contain embedded steel not to make the firearms "detectable", but to increase functionality and shooting accuracy. Contrary to popular movies like Die Hard 2, neither Glock nor any other gun maker has ever produced a "porcelain", "ceramic" or "plastic" firearm which is undetectable by ordinary security screening devices. Even if a pistol that was completely undetectable by either X-ray machines or metal detectors were to be developed, the ammunition inside would still be detectable. Another mistake is the claim the Glocks are made in Germany when in reality, they are manufactured in Austria. | The most glaring misconception is that the weapon is undetectable to the X-Ray machines at the airport, while in reality, Glock never produced such a handgun. In fact, 83.7% (by weight) of the Glock pistol is normal ordnance steel and the "plastic" parts are a dense polymer known as "Polymer 2", which is radio-opaque and is therefore visible to X-ray security equipment. In addition, virtually all of these "plastic" parts contain embedded steel not to make the firearms "detectable", but to increase functionality and shooting accuracy. Contrary to popular movies like ''Die Hard 2'', neither Glock nor any other gun maker has ever produced a "porcelain", "ceramic" or "plastic" firearm which is undetectable by ordinary security screening devices. Even if a pistol that was completely undetectable by either X-ray machines or metal detectors were to be developed, the ammunition inside would still be detectable. Another mistake is the claim the Glocks are made in Germany when in reality, they are manufactured in Austria. | ||
When Glock pistols were first introduced to the U.S. market, they were promoted as being lightweight because of their extensive use of non-metallic components. This generated controversy from people fearing that this would make them easier to conceal from metal detectors and X-ray devices - hence the scene in the movie. However, as described, the scenario shown in the film is pure Hollywood fiction. Armorer Mike Papac, whose company Cinema Weaponry supplied all of the firearms used in '''Die Hard 2''', has commented, ''"I remember when we did that scene, I tried to talk them out of it. There's no such thing as a gun invisible to metal detectors, and there shouldn't be, but they wouldn't budge. They had it written into the script and that was that."'' | When Glock pistols were first introduced to the U.S. market, they were promoted as being lightweight because of their extensive use of non-metallic components. This generated controversy from people fearing that this would make them easier to conceal from metal detectors and X-ray devices - hence the scene in the movie. However, as described, the scenario shown in the film is pure Hollywood fiction. Armorer Mike Papac, whose company Cinema Weaponry supplied all of the firearms used in '''Die Hard 2''', has commented, ''"I remember when we did that scene, I tried to talk them out of it. There's no such thing as a gun invisible to metal detectors, and there shouldn't be, but they wouldn't budge. They had it written into the script and that was that."'' | ||
| Line 32: | Line 32: | ||
[[Image:Glock171stGen.jpg|thumb|none|300px|A Generation 1 Glock 17 in 9x19mm.]] | [[Image:Glock171stGen.jpg|thumb|none|300px|A Generation 1 Glock 17 in 9x19mm.]] | ||
[[Image:DH2 024.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''Hermit:''' "Yeah, it kinda feels like a piece of me is dying, along with this church."<br>'''Baker:''' "Oh you're right about that." <br> Baker ([[Tony Ganios]]) pulls a suppressed Glock and executes the hermit in the church.]] | [[Image:DH2 024.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''Hermit:''' "Yeah, it kinda feels like a piece of me is dying, along with this church."<br>'''Baker:''' "Oh you're right about that." <br> Baker ([[Tony Ganios]]) pulls a suppressed Glock and executes the hermit in the church.]] | ||
[[Image:DH2_Glock.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sgt. Oswald Cochrane ([[John Costelloe]]) holds | [[Image:DH2_Glock.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sgt. Oswald Cochrane ([[John Costelloe]]) holds his Glock 17 as he searches for McClane.]] | ||
[[Image:DH2 Glock-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Colonel Stuart | [[Image:DH2 Glock-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Colonel Stuart puts a Glock 17 to Miller's ([[Vondie Curtis-Hall]]) head to threaten him for his failure, and pulls the trigger, but the gun clicks empty, but Stuart promises him that next time there is a failure the chamber won't be empty. Notice the milled ejection port, which is part of the blank-fire conversion process.]] | ||
[[Image:DH2_Glock2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''SWAT officer:''' "Hey asshole | [[Image:DH2_Glock2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''SWAT officer:''' "Hey asshole! Whadda I look like to you?"<br>'''O'Reilly:''' "A sitting duck!"<br>O'Reilly ([[Robert Patrick]]) shoots the first SWAT officer in the head during the Skywalk ambush.]] | ||
[[Image:DH2 Glock-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|O'Reilly | [[Image:DH2 Glock-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|O'Reilly prepares to use the Glock 17 in his right hand to finish off communications director Leslie Barnes ([[Art Evans]]) while also holding a Heckler & Koch MP5K assault rifle in his left hand.]] | ||
== M1911A1 == | == M1911A1 == | ||
Revision as of 17:51, 10 December 2011
Die Hard 2 is the 1990 sequel to Die Hard. Bruce Willis returns as Lt. John McClane, who this time finds himself trapped in Washington D.C.'s Dulles International Airport on Christmas Eve when mercenaries take over the airport's landing system and threaten to crash incoming airliners (one of which is carrying McClane's wife) unless an imprisoned military dictator on his way to the United States is allowed to land and be freed. The film encountered some controversy at the time of its release due to its depiction of an airline disaster as well as its (unrealistic) depiction of a firearm that would be able to pass through an airport metal detector. The film was released in some video formats under the title Die Hard 2: Die Harder.
The following weapons were used in the film Die Hard 2:
Beretta 92FS
While he carried the Beretta 92F in the original Die Hard, Lt. John McClane (Bruce Willis) carries the Beretta 92FS as his sidearm this time around. The Dulles Airport Police, along with Capt. Lorenzo (Dennis Franz) and Major Grant (John Amos) also carry the 92FS.
Glock 17
Colonel Stuart (William Sadler) and the mercenaries under his command use Glock 17 pistols as their sidearms. This is one of the earliest appearances of the handgun in a major Hollywood film (it had just been featured in 1989's Johnny Handsome). In a now-notorious scene midway through the film, McClane (Bruce Willis) incorrectly identifies it to Chief Lorenzo (Dennis Franz) as a "Glock 7," (no such model exists) and recites a string of inaccuracies, describing it as "A porcelain gun made in Germany that doesn't show up on your airport metal detectors and costs more than you make in a month."
The most glaring misconception is that the weapon is undetectable to the X-Ray machines at the airport, while in reality, Glock never produced such a handgun. In fact, 83.7% (by weight) of the Glock pistol is normal ordnance steel and the "plastic" parts are a dense polymer known as "Polymer 2", which is radio-opaque and is therefore visible to X-ray security equipment. In addition, virtually all of these "plastic" parts contain embedded steel not to make the firearms "detectable", but to increase functionality and shooting accuracy. Contrary to popular movies like Die Hard 2, neither Glock nor any other gun maker has ever produced a "porcelain", "ceramic" or "plastic" firearm which is undetectable by ordinary security screening devices. Even if a pistol that was completely undetectable by either X-ray machines or metal detectors were to be developed, the ammunition inside would still be detectable. Another mistake is the claim the Glocks are made in Germany when in reality, they are manufactured in Austria.
When Glock pistols were first introduced to the U.S. market, they were promoted as being lightweight because of their extensive use of non-metallic components. This generated controversy from people fearing that this would make them easier to conceal from metal detectors and X-ray devices - hence the scene in the movie. However, as described, the scenario shown in the film is pure Hollywood fiction. Armorer Mike Papac, whose company Cinema Weaponry supplied all of the firearms used in Die Hard 2, has commented, "I remember when we did that scene, I tried to talk them out of it. There's no such thing as a gun invisible to metal detectors, and there shouldn't be, but they wouldn't budge. They had it written into the script and that was that."
Baker: "Oh you're right about that."
Baker (Tony Ganios) pulls a suppressed Glock and executes the hermit in the church.
O'Reilly: "A sitting duck!"
O'Reilly (Robert Patrick) shoots the first SWAT officer in the head during the Skywalk ambush.
M1911A1
Corrupt General Ramon Esperanzo (Franco Nero) steals an M1911A1 off one of the crewmembers on the military aircraft that's transporting him for trial.
Heckler & Koch MP5A5
Colonel Stuart (William Sadler) uses a Heckler & Koch MP5A5 as his main weapon throughout the movie. (IMFDB previously misidentified this weapon as an MP5A3, but Blu-Ray screen captures indicate that Stuart's MP5 has the 4-position Navy trigger group which characterizes the A5 variant.)
Heckler & Koch MP5A3
Garber (Don Harvey) carries a Heckler & Koch MP5A3 fitted with a scope. Like the other MP5 variants used by Stuart's men, it also has two magazines taped together 'jungle style'. John McClane later commandeers Garber's MP5A3 while it's loaded full of blanks, and uses it to fire several blanks at Captain Carmine Lorenzo to prove the firefight between the terrorists and the Army Team was a set up.
- Trivia: One cannot switch between blanks rounds and live rounds in an Heckler & Koch MP5A3/MP5K or an M16A1. All firearms that 'autoload', i.e. are either semiautomatic or fully automatic, must be blank adapted in order to cycle. This does not apply to revolvers or other manually operated firearms like pump shotguns or lever/bolt action rifles. If a gun, like an MP5 has been firing blanks, one cannot just switch magazines and start firing live rounds. The blank adapter (which restricts the barrel down to anywhere from 50% to 75% of the original barrel interior) would have to be removed or else the first live round would blow up the firearm.
Heckler & Koch MP5K
The other weapon used by Stuart's men is the Heckler & Koch MP5K submachine gun. Many of them have two mags taped together 'jungle style' with blank & live ammo, just like the MP5A3's. While not commonly seen in productions during the time period (1989-1990), it's possible that these are not converted Heckler & Koch SP89's (judging from the paddle release seen).
M26 Hand Grenade
In attempt to kill John McClane after securing General Ramon Esperanza, Colonel Stuart (William Sadler) and his men throw M26 hand grenades into the cockpit of the plane McClane is in, but luckily for McClane, he manages to escape the cockpit using the pilot's ejector seat before the grenades detonate. The grenades seen in the film (especially in close up) are obviously dummy training grenades meant to represent the M26 style grenade. They are obviously 'rough' cast iron and have no MFG markings. In typical Hollywood fashion the hand grenades create explosions far in excess of their power (mockingly called nuclear hand grenades by some prop masters). Also noteworthy, the M26, at maximum, has a seven second fuse delay, and it takes over half a minute for McClane to eject himself from the time the first grenade enters the cockpit.
M16A1
The M16A1 is used by the airport police SWAT team and the Army Team. Some of the M16A1s used by the Army Team also appear to have M16A2-style handguards.
Browning M2HB Heavy Machine Gun
At the beginning of the movie, a Browning M2HB heavy machine gun can be seen during the news broadcast of Esperanza's trial.
Smith & Wesson Model 19
Several airport police officers throughout the film carry Smith & Wesson Model 19 revolvers as their sidearms.
Ithaca 37
Just before the Skywalk shootout, one of the SWAT officers can be seen carrying a Ithaca 37 shotgun with shell holder on the stock.
