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== Ike Clanton's Winchester Rifle == | == Ike Clanton's Winchester Rifle == | ||
The rifle Ike | The rifle Ike is carrying in the beginning of the film (as the Cowboys are walking towards the wedding) is ''not'' a '''Winchester Model 1876''', but a '''Model 1873'''. If you look closely at the reciever, you can tell by two details; | ||
The back of the recierver on ike's rifle extends quite a bit from the back of the sideplate (as it does on the Model 1873). On the Model 1876 however, the reciever ends and meets the stock almost immediately at the rear end of the sideplate. | The back of the recierver on ike's rifle extends quite a bit from the back of the sideplate (as it does on the Model 1873). On the Model 1876 however, the reciever ends and meets the stock almost immediately at the rear end of the sideplate. | ||
An other givaway is the screw, clearly visible on the back of the reciever of Ike's rifle. The screw is located in the lower part of the rear end of the reciever (as on the Model 1873). On the 1876, the equivalent screw is located in middle of the rear end of the reciever. --[[User:Buzz Cadero|Buzz Cadero]] 17:51, 19 November 2011 (CST) | An other givaway is the screw, clearly visible on the back of the reciever of Ike's rifle. The screw is located in the lower part of the rear end of the reciever (as on the Model 1873). On the 1876, the equivalent screw is located in middle of the rear end of the reciever. --[[User:Buzz Cadero|Buzz Cadero]] 17:51, 19 November 2011 (CST) | ||
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~This firearm looks more like the smith and wesson No. 3 Russian model in the film, especially given the long flat expanse behind the hammer.~ - If you look at the screenshot provided, the triggerguard has no spur coming off of it. Might be a Russian model with some damage?
It's definitely NOT a Russian. The only feature it has in common with the Russian is a mount for a lanyard ring, which only the Russian model had; an existing Schofield could have easily had that added. Plus, it's lacking the Russian's distinctive trigger-guard spur, as the poster above noted. But there are two basic structural differences between the gun pictured here and the Russian; the Russian had a differently-shaped grip than the standard Schofield; it was more rounded at the corners, not so squared-off...and the Russian model had a distinctive "bump" along the back of the grip just behind the hammer that the regular Schofield didn't have. This weapon is not a Russian.
Kate's gun
Kate (Joanna Pacula), Doc Holliday's girlfriend, carries a Colt Lightning Shopkeeper, drawing it on a saloon keeper when Doc stabs Ed Bailey.
That's NOT a lightning that Kate has there. The gun is smaller and the cylinder and flutes are too short to be a lightning. Its one of the many cheap solid frame DA pistols of the era. Looks more like a "British Bulldog" or some variant of that.
Actually, contrary to the earlier post, that IS a Lightning that Kate is packing. It is not a Cimarron New Model Lightning, which is a modern invention, but rather an historical Lightning double-action with the appropriate long flutes and small stature. Its size is due to the fact that it was chambered in the diminutive .38 Colt cartridge.
I disagree. The profile isn't quite right to be a Lightning. It's some variant of a Bulldog as I stated above. There's no way that's a Lightning. I'd bet my entire gun collection on that.
Check this thread on the Coltforum that shows a picture of guns from the movie. It shows the picture of the "bulldog" that Kate had in the movie:
http://www.coltforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=143268&posted=1#post143268
Here's a picture of some Forehand and Wadsworth British Bulldogs which is what Kate is holding. I wish I could just post this picture on here and get rid of the picture of the lightning but I can't seem to do that. This is the type of gun she is holding. It is definitely NOT a Colt of any type: http://i687.photobucket.com/albums/vv236/twaits/forehand.jpg
I'm gonna have to agree that it's a Bulldog. Look at the second picture, at the black grip of her gun. On the Lightning, the grip ends in a flat, horizontal line. The Bulldog, however, ends with a diagonal. The pistol she's using obviously has a diagonal end to it's grip, and therefore, it's a bulldog. Acora 16:31, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
Editors
Anyone else notice when Doc fires three shots out of a double barrel shotgun. I assume it's supposed to be a different angle of the same shot but I'm surprised nobody has mentioned it on here yet!
Ike Clanton's Winchester Rifle
The rifle Ike is carrying in the beginning of the film (as the Cowboys are walking towards the wedding) is not a Winchester Model 1876, but a Model 1873. If you look closely at the reciever, you can tell by two details;
The back of the recierver on ike's rifle extends quite a bit from the back of the sideplate (as it does on the Model 1873). On the Model 1876 however, the reciever ends and meets the stock almost immediately at the rear end of the sideplate.
An other givaway is the screw, clearly visible on the back of the reciever of Ike's rifle. The screw is located in the lower part of the rear end of the reciever (as on the Model 1873). On the 1876, the equivalent screw is located in middle of the rear end of the reciever. --Buzz Cadero 17:51, 19 November 2011 (CST)