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Most of the Wehrmacht,Waffen-SS, and Hitler Youth soldiers are seen with a [[Walther P38]] pistol as their sidearm. SS-Sturmbannführer Otto Günsche ([[Götz Otto]]) carries a Walther P38, also Joseph Goebbels ([[Ulrich Matthes]]) uses a P38 to commit suicide with his wife. | Most of the Wehrmacht,Waffen-SS, and Hitler Youth soldiers are seen with a [[Walther P38]] pistol as their sidearm. SS-Sturmbannführer Otto Günsche ([[Götz Otto]]) carries a Walther P38, also Joseph Goebbels ([[Ulrich Matthes]]) uses a P38 to commit suicide with his wife. | ||
[[Image:P38.jpg|thumb|none|350px|World War Two era P38 Pistol - 9mm]] | [[Image:P38.jpg|thumb|none|350px|World War Two era P38 Pistol - 9mm]] | ||
[[Image:DownFallP382.JPG|thumb|none|600px| | [[Image:DownFallP382.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Fanatical Hitlerjugend plan to commit suicide to escape the Red Army.]] | ||
[[Image:Downfall WaltherP38 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SS-Sturmbannführer Otto Günsche and some of the last remaining German officers prepare for the Red Army with their [[Walther P38]] pistols.]] | [[Image:Downfall WaltherP38 02.jpg|thumb|none|600px|SS-Sturmbannführer Otto Günsche and some of the last remaining German officers prepare for the Red Army with their [[Walther P38]] pistols.]] | ||
[[Image:DownFallP38.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Joseph Goebbels stands with his Walther P38 as he and his wife prepare to commit suicide.]] | [[Image:DownFallP38.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Joseph Goebbels stands with his Walther P38 as he and his wife prepare to commit suicide.]] | ||
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The [[MP40|MP38 Submachine gun]] is seen in use by Wehrmacht and Waffen-SS troops. SS-Standartenführer Ernst-Günther Schenck's adjutant carries one as well. | The [[MP40|MP38 Submachine gun]] is seen in use by Wehrmacht and Waffen-SS troops. SS-Standartenführer Ernst-Günther Schenck's adjutant carries one as well. | ||
[[Image:Mp38-1.jpg|none|400px|thumb|MP38 Submachine gun - 9x19mm.]] | [[Image:Mp38-1.jpg|none|400px|thumb|MP38 Submachine gun - 9x19mm.]] | ||
[[Image:Downfall MP38aa.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A German NCO with a rusted [[MP40|MP38]] escorts Traudl Junge ([[Alexandra Maria Lara]]) and Gerda Christian ([[Birgit Minichmayr]]) (disguised as male German | [[Image:Downfall MP38aa.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A German NCO with a rusted [[MP40|MP38]] escorts Traudl Junge ([[Alexandra Maria Lara]]) and Gerda Christian ([[Birgit Minichmayr]]) (disguised as male German soldiers) in an attempt to sneak across enemy lines.]] | ||
[[Image:DownFallMP38.JPG|none|600px|thumb|Schenck's adjutant grabs his MP38 when going with Schenck to confront the SS troopers.]] | [[Image:DownFallMP38.JPG|none|600px|thumb|Schenck's adjutant grabs his MP38 when going with Schenck to confront the SS troopers.]] | ||
[[Image:DownFallMP382.JPG|none|600px|thumb|SS-Scharführer aims his MP38 at Schenck.]] | [[Image:DownFallMP382.JPG|none|600px|thumb|SS-Scharführer aims his MP38 at Schenck.]] | ||
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== MP40 == | == MP40 == | ||
Several members of the Waffen SS are seen armed with MP40 submachine guns, most notably when preparing to cremate the Goebbels remains. General der Artillerie Helmuth Weidling's adjutant also carries an MP40, which he turns in before entering the bunker. | Several members of the Waffen SS are seen armed with [[MP40]] submachine guns, most notably when preparing to cremate the Goebbels remains. General der Artillerie Helmuth Weidling's adjutant also carries an MP40, which he turns in before entering the bunker. | ||
[[Image:MP40Side.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MP40 submachine gun - 9x19mm]] | [[Image:MP40Side.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MP40 submachine gun - 9x19mm]] | ||
[[Image:DownFallMP40.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Guards armed with MP40 submachine guns at an entrance to the bunker.]] | [[Image:DownFallMP40.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Guards armed with MP40 submachine guns at an entrance to the bunker.]] | ||
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== PPSh-41 Submachine Gun == | == PPSh-41 Submachine Gun == | ||
The [[PPSh-41 / PPS-43#PPSh-41|PPSh-41 | The [[PPSh-41 / PPS-43#PPSh-41|PPSh-41 submachine gun]] is seen throughout the movie, but seen in massive amounts at the end. Normally, PPSh-41 were not issued in such quantity, but the Red Army, upon entering Berlin, had issued nearly every soldier with PPSh-41s in anticipation of the street fighting that ensued. So this abundance of PPSh-41s is in fact, historically correct. | ||
[[Image:PPSH-01-SMG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A PPSh-41 submachine gun.]] | [[Image:PPSH-01-SMG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A PPSh-41 submachine gun.]] | ||
[[Image:Downfall PPsh41fielda.jpg|thumb|none|600px|PPSh-41 | [[Image:Downfall PPsh41fielda.jpg|thumb|none|600px|PPSh-41 submachine guns in the hands of waiting Soviet Soldiers]] | ||
[[Image:Downfall PPsh41field02a.jpg |thumb|none|600px|The soldiers standing behind them are carrying PPSh-41 | [[Image:Downfall PPsh41field02a.jpg |thumb|none|600px|The soldiers standing behind them are carrying PPSh-41 submachine guns.]] | ||
[[Image:DownFallPPSH41.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Russians seen with PPSh-41 submachine gun.]] | [[Image:DownFallPPSH41.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Russians seen with PPSh-41 submachine gun.]] | ||
[[Image:DownFallPPSH412.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Still even more PPSh-41 submachine guns.]] | [[Image:DownFallPPSH412.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Still even more PPSh-41 submachine guns.]] | ||
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== Karabiner 98k == | == Karabiner 98k == | ||
The standard battle weapon of the German Army during WW2, the [[Karabiner 98k]] (98K). It is seen most during an interior scene where weapons are being handed out (however the vast majority of weapons in the scene are StG-44 assault rifles) and at the end of the film, where surrendering German soldiers are smashing their pristine [[Karabiner 98k]] rifles against the ground prior to the arrival of the Red Army | The standard battle weapon of the German Army during WW2, the [[Karabiner 98k]] (98K). It is seen most during an interior scene where weapons are being handed out (however the vast majority of weapons in the scene are StG-44 assault rifles) and at the end of the film, where surrendering German soldiers are smashing their pristine [[Karabiner 98k]] rifles against the ground prior to the arrival of the Red Army. | ||
[[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k - German manufacture 1937 date - 7.92x57mm]] | [[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k - German manufacture 1937 date - 7.92x57mm]] | ||
[[Image:DownFallKarabiner98k5.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Gaurd at Hitler's Wolf's Lair armed with Karabiner 98k rifle in 1942.]] | [[Image:DownFallKarabiner98k5.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Gaurd at Hitler's Wolf's Lair armed with Karabiner 98k rifle in 1942.]] | ||
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== Sturmgewehr 44 == | == Sturmgewehr 44 == | ||
Arguably the most Sturmgewehr | Arguably the most [[Sturmgewehr 44]]s ever seen in one movie. The StG-44 is more seen than all other German weapons. As confirmed by a WW2 historian, the German army held back issuing their StG-44s to elite units, but towards the end of the war, starting handing them out in large numbers, figuring that they were running out of troops to arm. | ||
[[Image:Sturmgewehr 44.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Sturmgewehr 44 - 7.92 Kurz]] | [[Image:Sturmgewehr 44.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Sturmgewehr 44 - 7.92 Kurz]] | ||
[[Image:Downfall MP44a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lots of Waffen SS line up with StG-44s and one MP-40]] | [[Image:Downfall MP44a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lots of Waffen SS line up with StG-44s and one MP-40]] | ||
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== Mosin Nagant M38 Carbine == | == Mosin Nagant M38 Carbine == | ||
A lot of M38 Carbines are seen in the hands of Red Army soldiers, but not that many full sized M91/30 rifles, which is rather odd, since the Mosin Nagant M91/30 was the most common weapon in any Red Army Infantry unit. | A lot of M38 Carbines are seen in the hands of Red Army soldiers, but not that many full sized M91/30 rifles, which is rather odd, since the Mosin Nagant M91/30 was the most common weapon in any Red Army Infantry unit. As in the case of the PPSh-41, M38 carbines were issued in anticipation of the heavy street fighting. Other than submachine guns, the [[Mosin Nagant Rifle|M38 Carbine]] was issued to truck drivers and secondary members of crew served weapons. So the mix of PPSh-41s and M38s is historically correct. | ||
[[Image:M38Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Soviet Army M38 Carbine - 7.62x54R]] | [[Image:M38Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Soviet Army M38 Carbine - 7.62x54R]] | ||
[[Image:Downfall Russians M38.jpg |thumb|none|600px|Red Army soldiers with M38 Carbines & PPSh-41 | [[Image:Downfall Russians M38.jpg |thumb|none|600px|Red Army soldiers with M38 Carbines & PPSh-41 submachine guns.]] | ||
[[Image:Downfall Russians.jpg |thumb|none|600px|Red Army soldiers stands with his M38 Carbine - 7.62x54R.]] | [[Image:Downfall Russians.jpg |thumb|none|600px|Red Army soldiers stands with his M38 Carbine - 7.62x54R.]] | ||
[[Image:DownFallM44.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Red Army soldiers seen with their M38 Carbines.]] | [[Image:DownFallM44.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Red Army soldiers seen with their M38 Carbines.]] | ||
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== Model 24 Stielhandgranate == | == Model 24 Stielhandgranate == | ||
As Wehrmacht and Waffen-SS soldiers in the Reichstag are preparing for battle you can see [[Model 24 Stielhandgranate]] being passed out. | As Wehrmacht and Waffen-SS soldiers in the Reichstag are preparing for battle you can see [[Model 24 Stielhandgranate]]s being passed out. | ||
[[Image:M24handgrenade.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Antipersonnel fragmentation M24 hand grenade.]] | [[Image:M24handgrenade.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Antipersonnel fragmentation M24 hand grenade.]] | ||
[[Image:DownFallM24.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Soldiers seen with M24 hand grenades.]] | [[Image:DownFallM24.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Soldiers seen with M24 hand grenades.]] | ||
Revision as of 16:05, 19 November 2011
Downfall (2004) , (the original German language/International title is Der Untergang ) is a visceral, dark and disturbing account of the last days of the Third Reich, most notably the story of Traudl Junge, the young and pretty secretary for Adolf Hitler in his last days in the bunker. The movie chronicles the varied responses of the German military and civilian populations to the invasion of Berlin as Hitler insanely believes the war can still be won. The remaining fanatical Nazis collapse into violence as they try to stave off the Red Army and are caught in a fate of their own making, while other Germans try to survive the insanity and fruitlessly try to convince Hitler that the war is over and further loss of life is pointless. Being a German in Berlin in the spring of 1945 is about as close to Hell on Earth as one can imagine...
The following guns were used in Downfall:
Note: Spoilers are present in some image descriptions
Pistols
Walther PP
General der Artillerie Helmuth Weidling (Michael Mendl) and SS-Oberscharführer Rochus Misch (Heinrich Schmieder) carry Walther PP pistols as their sidearm. Weilding's pistol is seen breifly when he turns it over before entering the bunker. Misch is seen gazing at his Walther PP pistol while manning the radio.
Walther PPK
Adolf Hitler's (Bruno Ganz) Walther PPK is seen lying on the floor of his study after he commits suicide. General der Infanterie Wilhelm Burgdorf carries a PPK as do other officers, and Nazi diplomats such a Walther Hewel.
Walther Model 8
After Hitler commits suicide a Walther Model 8 pistol is seen lying on his coffee table. This is historically accurate according to Hitler's personal valet Heinz Linge, and his adjutant Otto Gunsche who testified that upon Hitlers suicide they discovered him with two pistols. A Walther Model 8, which Linge claimed Hitler often carried in a concealed pocket, and a Walther PP or PPK pistol. Gunsche unloaded the weapons and noted that the 7.65mm Walther Model PP or PPK, he couldn’t recall the exact model, had been fired. The Walther Model 8 6.35mm had not been fired.
Walther P38
Most of the Wehrmacht,Waffen-SS, and Hitler Youth soldiers are seen with a Walther P38 pistol as their sidearm. SS-Sturmbannführer Otto Günsche (Götz Otto) carries a Walther P38, also Joseph Goebbels (Ulrich Matthes) uses a P38 to commit suicide with his wife.
Luger P08
SS-Brigadeführer Wilhelm Mohnke (André Hennicke) carries a Luger P08 pistol as his sidearm. He is seen with it when the last remaining German officers prepare for the Red Army.
Submachine Guns
MP38
The MP38 Submachine gun is seen in use by Wehrmacht and Waffen-SS troops. SS-Standartenführer Ernst-Günther Schenck's adjutant carries one as well.
MP40
Several members of the Waffen SS are seen armed with MP40 submachine guns, most notably when preparing to cremate the Goebbels remains. General der Artillerie Helmuth Weidling's adjutant also carries an MP40, which he turns in before entering the bunker.
PPSh-41 Submachine Gun
The PPSh-41 submachine gun is seen throughout the movie, but seen in massive amounts at the end. Normally, PPSh-41 were not issued in such quantity, but the Red Army, upon entering Berlin, had issued nearly every soldier with PPSh-41s in anticipation of the street fighting that ensued. So this abundance of PPSh-41s is in fact, historically correct.
Rifles
Karabiner 98k
The standard battle weapon of the German Army during WW2, the Karabiner 98k (98K). It is seen most during an interior scene where weapons are being handed out (however the vast majority of weapons in the scene are StG-44 assault rifles) and at the end of the film, where surrendering German soldiers are smashing their pristine Karabiner 98k rifles against the ground prior to the arrival of the Red Army.
Sturmgewehr 44
Arguably the most Sturmgewehr 44s ever seen in one movie. The StG-44 is more seen than all other German weapons. As confirmed by a WW2 historian, the German army held back issuing their StG-44s to elite units, but towards the end of the war, starting handing them out in large numbers, figuring that they were running out of troops to arm.
Mosin Nagant M38 Carbine
A lot of M38 Carbines are seen in the hands of Red Army soldiers, but not that many full sized M91/30 rifles, which is rather odd, since the Mosin Nagant M91/30 was the most common weapon in any Red Army Infantry unit. As in the case of the PPSh-41, M38 carbines were issued in anticipation of the heavy street fighting. Other than submachine guns, the M38 Carbine was issued to truck drivers and secondary members of crew served weapons. So the mix of PPSh-41s and M38s is historically correct.
Machine Guns
Visually Modified PK Machine Gun
German soldiers are seen laying down suppressing fire with visually modified PK Machine Guns during the Red Army’s assault on the city. The PKs are modified to resemble the MG34.
Degtyarev DP-28
Only seen for a few seconds on screen, a Degtyarev DP light machine gun is seen being fired by German soldiers.
Miscellaneous Weaponry
Panzerfaust
Hitler Youth and German soldiers are armed with Panzerfaust to defend Berlin against Red Army Tanks. Hitler Youth Peter Kranz (Donevan Gunia) is seen with one. The Volkssturm under Dr. Joseph Goebbels command also are seen armed with Panzerfaust.
Model 24 Stielhandgranate
As Wehrmacht and Waffen-SS soldiers in the Reichstag are preparing for battle you can see Model 24 Stielhandgranates being passed out.
Model 39 Eihandgranate
SS-Reichsarzt Ernst-Robert Grawitz (Christian Hoening) uses 2 Model 39 Eihandgranates to commit suicide.
