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[[Image:RescueDawnPoster.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Rescue Dawn (2006) | [[Image:RescueDawnPoster.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Rescue Dawn (2006) Many critics and viewers noticed that one of the helicopters on this poster is a modern UH-60 Blackhawk, which did not exist in 1965, the time frame of the movie.]] | ||
'''The following firearms were used in the film ''Rescue Dawn'':''' | '''The following firearms were used in the film ''Rescue Dawn'':''' | ||
==AK-47== | ==AK-47== | ||
A large number of the Vietcong carry what appear to be milled receiver AK-47s. Gene DeBruin ([[Jeremy Davies]]) later acquires one during the escape from the POW camp in Laos. | A large number of the Vietcong carry what appear to be milled receiver AK-47s. Gene DeBruin ([[Jeremy Davies]]) later acquires one during the escape from the POW camp in Laos. | ||
[[Image:AK47-PolyTechLegend.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Poly Technologies AK-47 - 7.62x39mm. | [[Image:AK47-PolyTechLegend.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Poly Technologies AK-47 - 7.62x39mm. This is the commercial clone of the original Type III AK-47 and is the most used in films and shows when showing the milled receiver AK-47]] | ||
[[Image:RD-MilledAK01a.jpg |thumb|none|600px|A female | [[Image:RD-MilledAK01a.jpg |thumb|none|600px|A female Laotian Communist fighter stops to rest with others, the side of her milled AK visible (but here it looks like a replica gun.]] | ||
[[Image:RD-MilledAKForestA.jpg |thumb|none|600px|Gene DeBruin ([[Jeremy Davies]]) looks confused as he holds a milled receiver AK with very dark wood. | [[Image:RD-MilledAKForestA.jpg |thumb|none|600px|Gene DeBruin ([[Jeremy Davies]]) looks confused as he holds a milled receiver AK with very dark wood. Most of the Milled receiver AKs had very dark brown wood in the film.]] | ||
[[Image:RD-AKMixA.jpg |thumb|none|600px|Past the two female fighters, two uniformed Pathet Lao Soldiers (with the NVA style sunhelmets) hold a milled receiver AK and a stamped receiver Norinco Type-56 rifle.]] | [[Image:RD-AKMixA.jpg |thumb|none|600px|Past the two female fighters, two uniformed Pathet Lao Soldiers (with the NVA style sunhelmets) hold a milled receiver AK and a stamped receiver Norinco Type-56 rifle.]] | ||
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[[Image:ChineseType56Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Chinese Type 56 Carbine aka the Chinese SKS rifle - 7.62x39mm]] | [[Image:ChineseType56Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Chinese Type 56 Carbine aka the Chinese SKS rifle - 7.62x39mm]] | ||
[[Image:RD-SKSNoBayo4!!a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|When Dengler is first captured, the Laotian militia carry Type 56 SKS rifles with the pig sticker bayonets removed - 7.62x39mm]] | [[Image:RD-SKSNoBayo4!!a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|When Dengler is first captured, the Laotian militia carry Type 56 SKS rifles with the pig sticker bayonets removed - 7.62x39mm]] | ||
[[Image:RD-SKSfireA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|To torment Dengler, the Laotian militia leader shoots at the jungle around a bound Dengler. | [[Image:RD-SKSfireA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|To torment Dengler, the Laotian militia leader shoots at the jungle around a bound Dengler. In the film, the squib and sound effects sound like a full auto gun firing, which is incorrect for an SKS.]] | ||
==Simonov Type 45 SKS== | ==Simonov Type 45 SKS== | ||
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==M3 "Greasegun"== | ==M3 "Greasegun"== | ||
An M3A1 submachine gun is seen in the hands of a female Pathet Low soldier. | An M3A1 submachine gun is seen in the hands of a female Pathet Low soldier. The extended dust cover/ejection port distinguishes it as the A1 variant. | ||
[[Image:M3_Grease.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M3 "Grease Gun" .45 ACP. | [[Image:M3_Grease.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M3 "Grease Gun" .45 ACP. The later model M3A1 would eliminate the crank lever for cocking the bolt, and instead used a simple hole in the bolt for the shooter to use their finger.]] | ||
[[Image:RD-M3a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A female Pathet Lao Soldier (following her squad leader) carries an M3A1 submachine gun - .45 acp]] | [[Image:RD-M3a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A female Pathet Lao Soldier (following her squad leader) carries an M3A1 submachine gun - .45 acp]] | ||
[[Image:RD-M3 03a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A female Pathet Lao Soldier carries an M3A1 submachine gun - .45 acp. It is seen when she finds a glass shard amongst the prisoners and demands to know what it is for. Despite her suspicions that it is a part of a makeshift weapon, Dengler manages to convince her that it is merely used for shaving.]] | [[Image:RD-M3 03a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A female Pathet Lao Soldier carries an M3A1 submachine gun - .45 acp. It is seen when she finds a glass shard amongst the prisoners and demands to know what it is for. Despite her suspicions that it is a part of a makeshift weapon, Dengler manages to convince her that it is merely used for shaving.]] | ||
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[[Image:MAT-49.jpg|400px|none|thumb|MAT-49 Submachine Gun 9x19mm]] | [[Image:MAT-49.jpg|400px|none|thumb|MAT-49 Submachine Gun 9x19mm]] | ||
[[Image:RD-Mat-49a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Local villager prison guard test fires the MAT-49 Submachine gun - 9mm]] | [[Image:RD-Mat-49a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Local villager prison guard test fires the MAT-49 Submachine gun - 9mm]] | ||
[[Image:RD-Mat-49RunawayA.jpg |thumb|none|600px|The MAT-49, suffering a firing malfunction, discharges its | [[Image:RD-Mat-49RunawayA.jpg |thumb|none|600px|The MAT-49, suffering a firing malfunction, discharges its entire magazine while spinning on the ground - 9mm]] | ||
==Mosin Nagant M44== | ==Mosin Nagant M44== | ||
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==Type 69 Rocket Launcher== | ==Type 69 Rocket Launcher== | ||
A guerrilla fighter runs through the forest with a Type 69 Chinese Rocket Launcher, with RPG-2 style | A guerrilla fighter runs through the forest with a Type 69 Chinese Rocket Launcher, with RPG-2 style rocket-heads. This is another anachronism since the only rocket launcher available to these forces in 1965 would be the RPG-2 aka the Chinese B-40 rocket. | ||
[[Image:Type69RPG.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Chinese Type 69 RPG]] | [[Image:Type69RPG.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Chinese Type 69 RPG]] | ||
[[Image:RD-Type69RPG2Head2a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Guerrilla fighter runs with a Type 69 launcher (with RPG-2 rocket heads)]] | [[Image:RD-Type69RPG2Head2a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Guerrilla fighter runs with a Type 69 launcher (with RPG-2 rocket heads)]] | ||
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==M16A1== | ==M16A1== | ||
Only seen in the film at the Thai Army base, all of the Thai soldiers have M16A1 Rifles. | Only seen in the film at the Thai Army base, all of the Thai soldiers have M16A1 Rifles. Since the film takes place in 1965, this is a complete anachronism. Historically the [[M16A1#XM16E1_Rifle|XM16E1]] was introduced in 1965, however these have birdcage flash hiders and the more similar [[M16A1]] was not introduced until 1967. | ||
[[Image:M16A1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M16A1 with 20 round magazine - 5.56x45mm. | [[Image:M16A1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M16A1 with 20 round magazine - 5.56x45mm. What distinguishes it from the original M16 was the addition of a raised rib around the magazine release button, changing of the forward Receiver pins, and the addition of the forward assist button on the upper receiver.]] | ||
[[Image:RD-ThaiArmyA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A platoon of real Thai Soldiers march with M16A1 rifles wearing the Thai version of Woodland BDUs which is anachronistic. | [[Image:RD-ThaiArmyA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A platoon of real Thai Soldiers march with M16A1 rifles wearing the Thai version of Woodland BDUs which is anachronistic. What is noteworthy is that most of the soldiers wear only the helmet liner rather than the full M1 steel pot style helmet, whereas we can see two soldiers with Modern Kevlar Helmets wasn't introduced until 1983.]] | ||
==M1911A1 Pistol== | ==M1911A1 Pistol== | ||
An M1911A1 pistol is seen in the holster of a rescue pilot rushing Dengler to the hospital. | An M1911A1 pistol is seen in the holster of a rescue pilot rushing Dengler to the hospital. It is seen in the black leather issued holster, it is also seen ditched by Dengler early in the movie. | ||
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Military M1911A1 Pistol - .45 ACP]] | [[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|300px|none|Military M1911A1 Pistol - .45 ACP]] | ||
[[Image:RD-M1911HolsterA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Seen in the holster of a rescue pilot rushing Denglers' gurney to the hospital, we see the recognizable butt of an M1911 Pistol - .45 acp.]] | [[Image:RD-M1911HolsterA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Seen in the holster of a rescue pilot rushing Denglers' gurney to the hospital, we see the recognizable butt of an M1911 Pistol - .45 acp.]] | ||
==M60D== | ==M60D== | ||
When Dengler finally gets | When Dengler finally gets picked up by American forces, an M60D can be seen mounted on board the helicopter that picks him up. | ||
[[Image:M60d.jpg|400px|none|thumb|M60D 7.62x51mm NATO]] | [[Image:M60d.jpg|400px|none|thumb|M60D 7.62x51mm NATO]] | ||
[[Image:RD-M60DoorGunnerFiresA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Out of the door of a UH-1D Huey with USAF markings, a door gunner fires at Pathet Lao troops with his M60D Machinegun - 7.62x51mm. | [[Image:RD-M60DoorGunnerFiresA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Out of the door of a UH-1D Huey with USAF markings, a door gunner fires at Pathet Lao troops with his M60D Machinegun - 7.62x51mm. What is curious is that he is bareheaded. He is not wearing a helicopter helmet nor the 'chicken plate' armor that door gunners would have.]] | ||
[[Image:RD-M60Da.jpg |thumb|none|600px|Again, we see the door gunner (with no helmet) manning his M60D machine gun as his helicopter lands at an indigenous Military Base.]] | [[Image:RD-M60Da.jpg |thumb|none|600px|Again, we see the door gunner (with no helmet) manning his M60D machine gun as his helicopter lands at an indigenous Military Base.]] | ||
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==Trivia== | ==Trivia== | ||
===Huey Helicopters=== | ===Huey Helicopters=== | ||
When Dengler is rescued, the helicopters are UH-1Ds which were correct (they were introduced in 1963) and supplemented the A,B & C models operating in Vietnam. | When Dengler is rescued, the helicopters are UH-1Ds which were correct (they were introduced in 1963) and supplemented the A,B & C models operating in Vietnam. However, their paint job is woodland camo, which is not correct. | ||
[[Image:RD-Huey01a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | [[Image:RD-Huey01a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
In a continuity error, however, the helicopters change into UH-1N twin turbine variant from the 1970s (first introduced in late 1969), when they approach the Thai Army Base. | In a continuity error, however, the helicopters change into UH-1N twin turbine variant from the 1970s (first introduced in late 1969), when they approach the Thai Army Base. Note: In the film, Dengler is trying to reach Thailand via the Mekong River. However, exactly where the base is at the end of the film is not clear, but technically Thailand tried to maintain it's neutrality during the conflict and it is doubtful they would have a large military base with so many Americans openly working there. | ||
[[Image:RD-HueyNew02a.jpg |thumb|none|600px|The rescue helicopter changes into a twin turbine UH-1N, a variant of the Huey that was not introduced until the 1970s.]] | [[Image:RD-HueyNew02a.jpg |thumb|none|600px|The rescue helicopter changes into a twin turbine UH-1N, a variant of the Huey that was not introduced until the 1970s.]] | ||
[[Image:RD-HueyNew&BDUa.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Rescue helicopter, probably a Royal Thai Army helicopter touches down with nonstandard markings for an American gunship. Also the indigenous soldier standing at attention is wearing a helmet liner and modern woodland camouflage BDU, which is anachronistic to the time period.]] | [[Image:RD-HueyNew&BDUa.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Rescue helicopter, probably a Royal Thai Army helicopter touches down with nonstandard markings for an American gunship. Also the indigenous soldier standing at attention is wearing a helmet liner and modern woodland camouflage BDU, which is anachronistic to the time period.]] | ||
===SPH-4 Helicopter Pilot Helmets=== | ===SPH-4 Helicopter Pilot Helmets=== | ||
Inexplicably, the Skyraider pilots wear SPH-4 Helicopter Pilot helmets from the 1970s, all missing their visor assemblies. | Inexplicably, the Skyraider pilots wear SPH-4 Helicopter Pilot helmets from the 1970s, all missing their visor assemblies. Not only is this anachronistic, it makes no sense, as the pilots have no eye protection. | ||
[[Image:RD-WrongHelmeta.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | [[Image:RD-WrongHelmeta.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
[[Image:RD-WrongHelmet3a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | [[Image:RD-WrongHelmet3a.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
===Modern Footwear=== | ===Modern Footwear=== | ||
Being that boots are such a strong plot point in the film, the film falters in showing obviously modern boots. | Being that boots are such a strong plot point in the film, the film falters in showing obviously modern boots. The jungle boots have the thick Panama Tread (which is circa 1980s), the black leather boots are Corcoran soft leather duty boots and Dengler's boots are brown civilian lumberjack boots. The only period footwear is the black low quarters boots (center of image) which actually look like German NATO boots. | ||
[[Image:RD-WrongBootsA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | [[Image:RD-WrongBootsA.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
Revision as of 03:55, 28 August 2011
The following firearms were used in the film Rescue Dawn:
AK-47
A large number of the Vietcong carry what appear to be milled receiver AK-47s. Gene DeBruin (Jeremy Davies) later acquires one during the escape from the POW camp in Laos.
Type 56 Rifle (AK47)
The Chinese version of the Russian AK-47, the Type 56 rifle is most seen in the film, usually by Pathet Lao troops and later acquired by the escaping American Prisoners.
Type 56-1 Rifle (AK47 underfolder stock)
Used in great numbers in the film are the 56-1 variant, aka the underfolding stock version of the Type 56 rifle.
Type 56 SKS
Another weapon used extensively by the Pathet Lao are SKS semi-automatic rifles. Interesting note is that the majority of them do not have the underfolded bayonets attached. One is later acquired by Duane Martin (Steve Zahn) during his escape from the POW camp with Dengler.
Simonov Type 45 SKS
PPS-43
A PPS-43 Submachine gun is seen briefly in the hands of a Laotian fighter.
M3 "Greasegun"
An M3A1 submachine gun is seen in the hands of a female Pathet Low soldier. The extended dust cover/ejection port distinguishes it as the A1 variant.
MAT-49
Another weapon seen was the French MAT-49 submachine gun. In an interesting scene, one of the prison guards is playing around with the gun and he accidentally fires it and drops it to the ground with the gun still firing causing bullets to fly all around the vicinity nearly hitting everyone close by.
Mosin Nagant M44
A skinny villager is seen wielding an M44 Carbine with the bayonet removed.
TT-33 Tokarev Pistol
Seen from a distance, a Laotian officer wields a TT-33 pistol.
Type 69 Rocket Launcher
A guerrilla fighter runs through the forest with a Type 69 Chinese Rocket Launcher, with RPG-2 style rocket-heads. This is another anachronism since the only rocket launcher available to these forces in 1965 would be the RPG-2 aka the Chinese B-40 rocket.
M16 (SP1)
When Dieter Dengler finally gets picked up by American forces, one of the soldiers on board the helicopter can be seen with an slab side M16 (aka SP1) with three pronged flash hider.
M16A1
Only seen in the film at the Thai Army base, all of the Thai soldiers have M16A1 Rifles. Since the film takes place in 1965, this is a complete anachronism. Historically the XM16E1 was introduced in 1965, however these have birdcage flash hiders and the more similar M16A1 was not introduced until 1967.
M1911A1 Pistol
An M1911A1 pistol is seen in the holster of a rescue pilot rushing Dengler to the hospital. It is seen in the black leather issued holster, it is also seen ditched by Dengler early in the movie.
M60D
When Dengler finally gets picked up by American forces, an M60D can be seen mounted on board the helicopter that picks him up.
Colt Official Police
Seen only briefly and between blurry shots, another pilot has what appears to be a vintage Colt Official Police in his shoulder rig, evident by the older style grips and frame.
M24 Stielhandgranates
Rather anachronistically, the Pathet Lao soldiers don't carry the shorter Chinese Type II stick grenades, but the longer German M24 Stielhandgranate stick grenades of World War II vintage.
Trivia
Huey Helicopters
When Dengler is rescued, the helicopters are UH-1Ds which were correct (they were introduced in 1963) and supplemented the A,B & C models operating in Vietnam. However, their paint job is woodland camo, which is not correct.
In a continuity error, however, the helicopters change into UH-1N twin turbine variant from the 1970s (first introduced in late 1969), when they approach the Thai Army Base. Note: In the film, Dengler is trying to reach Thailand via the Mekong River. However, exactly where the base is at the end of the film is not clear, but technically Thailand tried to maintain it's neutrality during the conflict and it is doubtful they would have a large military base with so many Americans openly working there.
SPH-4 Helicopter Pilot Helmets
Inexplicably, the Skyraider pilots wear SPH-4 Helicopter Pilot helmets from the 1970s, all missing their visor assemblies. Not only is this anachronistic, it makes no sense, as the pilots have no eye protection.
Modern Footwear
Being that boots are such a strong plot point in the film, the film falters in showing obviously modern boots. The jungle boots have the thick Panama Tread (which is circa 1980s), the black leather boots are Corcoran soft leather duty boots and Dengler's boots are brown civilian lumberjack boots. The only period footwear is the black low quarters boots (center of image) which actually look like German NATO boots.
