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[[Image:Rambo_first_blood_part_ii.jpg|thumb|300px|''Rambo: First Blood Part II'' (1985)]] | [[Image:Rambo_first_blood_part_ii.jpg|thumb|300px|''Rambo: First Blood Part II'' (1985)]] | ||
'''The following weapons were used in the film ''Rambo: First Blood Part II'':''' | '''The following weapons were used in the film ''Rambo: First Blood Part II'':''' | ||
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=Submachine Guns= | =Submachine Guns= | ||
==Heckler & Koch MP5A3 (fake)== | ==Heckler & Koch MP5A3 (fake)== | ||
The weapon issued to John Rambo ([[Sylvester Stallone]]) by his CIA controllers is a [[Heckler & Koch MP5|Heckler & Koch MP5A3]]. | The weapon issued to John Rambo ([[Sylvester Stallone]]) by his CIA controllers is a [[Heckler & Koch MP5|Heckler & Koch MP5A3]]. He loses the weapon when he is forced to cut away his equipment when his parachute rigging gets caught up during insertion. When he is first seen loading it up, it is fitted with a 3x scope, but when he prepares for the drop, it appears to have been removed. Like many other "MP5A3s" at the time, this gun is actually a chopped and converted [[Heckler & Koch HK94]]. | ||
[[Image:H&KMP5A3slimforearm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 with older style friction grip | [[Image:H&KMP5A3slimforearm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 with older style friction grip for-end - 9x19mm]] | ||
[[Image:RamboIIMP5A3-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rambo loads 9mm round into his MP5A3 magazine, which are clearly fired dummy rounds.]] | [[Image:RamboIIMP5A3-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rambo loads 9mm round into his MP5A3 magazine, which are clearly fired dummy rounds.]] | ||
[[Image:RamboIIMP5A3-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rambo loads the MP5A3, which is fitted with a 3x scope.]] | [[Image:RamboIIMP5A3-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rambo loads the MP5A3, which is fitted with a 3x scope.]] | ||
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[[Image:RamboIIAKM-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A corrupt Vietnamese river pirate steals Co Bao's AKM and holds it like any low paid extra would.]] | [[Image:RamboIIAKM-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A corrupt Vietnamese river pirate steals Co Bao's AKM and holds it like any low paid extra would.]] | ||
[[Image:RamboIIAKM-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Co Bao fires her AKM through the boat roof.]] | [[Image:RamboIIAKM-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Co Bao fires her AKM through the boat roof.]] | ||
[[Image:RamboIIAKM-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rambo drops his extremely muddy AKM when the Vietnamese close in on him. (This is, incidentally, the same AKM on display in Planet Hollywood, the restaurant chain owned by Stallone, [[Arnold Schwarzenegger|Schwarzenegger]] and [[Bruce Willis|Willis]]... still with the same Vietnamese paddy-field mud all over it.)]] | [[Image:RamboIIAKM-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rambo drops his extremely muddy AKM when the Vietnamese close in on him. (This is, incidentally, the same AKM on display in Planet Hollywood, the restaurant chain owned by Stallone, [[Arnold Schwarzenegger|Schwarzenegger]] and [[Bruce Willis|Willis] ]... still with the same Vietnamese paddy-field mud all over it.)]] | ||
[[Image:RamboIIAKM-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Russian troops lined up armed with several AK variants, mainly AKM rifles.]] | [[Image:RamboIIAKM-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Russian troops lined up armed with several AK variants, mainly AKM rifles.]] | ||
[[Image:RamboIIAKM-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rambo fires an AKM when he escapes the Vietnamese POW camp. Note how the muzzle break is clearly doing what it is supposed to do.]] | [[Image:RamboIIAKM-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rambo fires an AKM when he escapes the Vietnamese POW camp. Note how the muzzle break is clearly doing what it is supposed to do.]] | ||
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[[Image:RamboIIM16A1-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Vietnamese pirate tries to fire his M16A1 at Rambo but ends up like the man next to him.]] | [[Image:RamboIIM16A1-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Vietnamese pirate tries to fire his M16A1 at Rambo but ends up like the man next to him.]] | ||
==M16A1 w/ A2 | ==M16A1 w/ A2 hand guards== | ||
A Vietnamese river pirate can be seen with an [[M16#M16A1 Rifle|M16A1]] fitted with A2 | A Vietnamese river pirate can be seen with an [[M16#M16A1 Rifle|M16A1]] fitted with A2 hand guards on the boat docks. | ||
[[Image:M16A1wA2Handguards.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M16A1 w/ A2 | [[Image:M16A1wA2Handguards.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M16A1 w/ A2 hand guards - 5.56x45mm.]] | ||
[[Image:RamboIIM16A1-2-A2 HG.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Vietnamese river pirate is armed with an M16A1 w/ A2 | [[Image:RamboIIM16A1-2-A2 HG.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Vietnamese river pirate is armed with an M16A1 w/ A2 hand guards.]] | ||
==MGC M16 Replica== | ==MGC M16 Replica== | ||
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==Valmet M78/83== | ==Valmet M78/83== | ||
A Vietnamese pirate is seen armed with an [[Valmet M78|Valmet M78/83]] rifle in a tree. The M78/83 differs from the original M78 in that the clubfoot "[[RPK light machine gun|RPK]]-style" | A Vietnamese pirate is seen armed with an [[Valmet M78|Valmet M78/83]] rifle in a tree. The M78/83 differs from the original M78 in that the clubfoot "[[RPK light machine gun|RPK]]-style" butt-stock was replaced with a factory [[SVD Dragunov|Dragunov]]-style thumb-hole stock. These were seen unaltered in the films ''[[Commando]]'' and ''[[Predator]]''. At least one Vietnamese soldier is seen with one of these when chasing Rambo later on in the film. | ||
[[Image:Valmet M78 LMG.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Valmet M78 with full stock and bipod - 7.62x39mm.]] | [[Image:Valmet M78 LMG.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Valmet M78 with full stock and bipod - 7.62x39mm.]] | ||
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==GE M134 Minigun== | ==GE M134 Minigun== | ||
Mounted on the right side of the UH-1 is a [[GE M134]] | Mounted on the right side of the UH-1 is a [[GE M134]] minigun which is electrically fired by Rambo at the controls when he strafes the POW camp and is then manned by one of the POWs, who manages to kill a Russian Hind door gunner with it. | ||
[[Image:M134.JPG|thumb|none|400px|General Electrics M134 Mini-Gun - 7.62x51mm NATO.]] | [[Image:M134.JPG|thumb|none|400px|General Electrics M134 Mini-Gun - 7.62x51mm NATO.]] | ||
[[Image:RamboIIM134-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rambo electronically fires the | [[Image:RamboIIM134-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rambo electronically fires the minigun over the Vietnamese camp.]] | ||
[[Image:RamboIIM134-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the | [[Image:RamboIIM134-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the minigun devastating the camp.]] | ||
[[Image:RamboIIM134-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A POW fires the | [[Image:RamboIIM134-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A POW fires the minigun at the Russian "Hind" (actually an Aérospatiale Puma dressed in Russian markings).]] | ||
[[Image:RamboIIM134-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the POW firing at the Russian "Hind". It should be noted that the real-life Hind's Achilles' heel was the tail boom having poor armor protection, so a burst from the Minigun into the tail boom could likely have taken the Hind down]] | [[Image:RamboIIM134-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the POW firing at the Russian "Hind". It should be noted that the real-life Hind's Achilles' heel was the tail boom having poor armor protection, so a burst from the Minigun into the tail boom could likely have taken the Hind down]] | ||
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[[Image:SigP226.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SIG-Sauer P226 - 9x19mm.]] | [[Image:SigP226.jpg|thumb|none|400px|SIG-Sauer P226 - 9x19mm.]] | ||
[[Image:RamboIISIG-SauerP226-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The door gunner points his P226 at Trautman. "Don't be a hero..."]] | [[Image:RamboIISIG-SauerP226-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The door gunner points his P226 at Trautman. "Don't be a hero ..."]] | ||
[[Image:RamboIISIG-SauerP226-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The door gunner with his P226 fixed on Trautman.]] | [[Image:RamboIISIG-SauerP226-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The door gunner with his P226 fixed on Trautman.]] | ||
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=Shotguns= | =Shotguns= | ||
==Remington 870== | ==Remington 870== | ||
A Vietnamese pirate can be seen wielding a [[Remington 870]] shotgun with a wooden | A Vietnamese pirate can be seen wielding a [[Remington 870]] shotgun with a wooden for-end, extended magazine tube, and folding stock. Rambo ([[Sylvester Stallone]]) fires a few rounds at the pirates with the shotgun. | ||
[[Image:Remington870LONGFolder.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington 870 w/ folding stock and extended mag tube - 12 gauge]] | [[Image:Remington870LONGFolder.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Remington 870 w/ folding stock and extended mag tube - 12 gauge]] | ||
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[[Image:M72law-1.jpg |thumb|none|400px|M72 LAW - 66mm]] | [[Image:M72law-1.jpg |thumb|none|400px|M72 LAW - 66mm]] | ||
[[Image:RamboIIM72LAW-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rambo readies the M72 LAW.]] | [[Image:RamboIIM72LAW-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rambo readies the M72 LAW.]] | ||
[[Image:RamboIIM72LAW-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The shot of Rambo pulling the trigger on the RPG is hilariously reused to show him fire the LAW, despite the entirely different shape and mechanism. | [[Image:RamboIIM72LAW-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The shot of Rambo pulling the trigger on the RPG is hilariously reused to show him fire the LAW, despite the entirely different shape and mechanism. (If you can tell, this is a shot of him firing the RPG- 7 at the pirates earlier in the movie, not the LAW.)]] | ||
[[Image:RambOIIM72LAW-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rambo fires the LAW through the hole in the windshield and takes out the "Hind".]] | [[Image:RambOIIM72LAW-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rambo fires the LAW through the hole in the windshield and takes out the "Hind".]] | ||
==Rambo's Survival Knife== | ==Rambo's Survival Knife== | ||
While not a gun, we let Rambo's knife stay because, well, he's Rambo and his knife completes him. Like in the original ''[[First Blood]]'', | While not a gun, we let Rambo's knife stay because, well, he's Rambo and his knife completes him. Like in the original ''[[First Blood]]'', Knife-smith Jimmy Lile was asked by Stallone to design a knife for the movie. | ||
[[Image:Rambo_knife_2.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Rambo II Survival Knife]] | [[Image:Rambo_knife_2.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Rambo II Survival Knife]] | ||
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==Trivia Specials== | ==Trivia Specials== | ||
*The Soviet uniforms are US type 'Duck Hunter' fatigues dyed blue to look Russian. Also - due to service patches Soviet soldiers are meant to be from VDV (Airborne Troops Corp), but they incorrectly wear black berets (real VDV have blue-colored berets). | *The Soviet uniforms are US type 'Duck Hunter' fatigues dyed blue to look Russian. Also - due to service patches Soviet soldiers are meant to be from VDV (Airborne Troops Corp), but they incorrectly wear black berets (real VDV have blue-colored berets). Also the VDV shoulder patches are not 'trimmed' prior to sewing onto the sleeves. | ||
*The "Mil-24" is an ''Aerospatiale Puma'' originally modified for the movie ''[[Red Dawn]]'', but the mock front ends built for Red Dawn were removed (primarily because they hindered pilot vision and rendered the aircraft difficult to fly.) | *The "Mil-24" is an ''Aerospatiale Puma'' originally modified for the movie ''[[Red Dawn]]'', but the mock front ends built for Red Dawn were removed (primarily because they hindered pilot vision and rendered the aircraft difficult to fly.) The Wings and rocket pods were maintained, however since they did not affect the aerodynamics of the helicopter. | ||
==See Also== | ==See Also== | ||
Revision as of 02:00, 28 August 2011
The following weapons were used in the film Rambo: First Blood Part II:
Submachine Guns
Heckler & Koch MP5A3 (fake)
The weapon issued to John Rambo (Sylvester Stallone) by his CIA controllers is a Heckler & Koch MP5A3. He loses the weapon when he is forced to cut away his equipment when his parachute rigging gets caught up during insertion. When he is first seen loading it up, it is fitted with a 3x scope, but when he prepares for the drop, it appears to have been removed. Like many other "MP5A3s" at the time, this gun is actually a chopped and converted Heckler & Koch HK94.
Ingram MAC-10
When Co Bao disguises herself as a prostitute to save Rambo, she uses a MAC-10 with a mock-suppressor to fend off the Vietnamese troops.
Assault Rifles
AKM
After his insertion back into Vietnam, Rambo meets up with indigenous agent Co Bao (Julia Nickson-Soul) who is armed with an AKM. Rambo later picks up a few AKMs throughout the film to dispatch several Vietnamese and Russian soldiers. Vietnamese and Russian troops are widely seen armed with AKMs as well. As in most Hollywood movies, the AKMs in the film are all Egyptian Maadi ARM copies of the original Soviet AKM (much like in the film Red Dawn). It should be noted that the use of the AKM by the Soviet soldiers in the film is rather anachronistic, as the Soviets were using the AK-74 by the time of the film.
[[Image:RamboIIAKM-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rambo drops his extremely muddy AKM when the Vietnamese close in on him. (This is, incidentally, the same AKM on display in Planet Hollywood, the restaurant chain owned by Stallone, Schwarzenegger and Willis] ]... still with the same Vietnamese paddy-field mud all over it.)
[[Image:RamboIIAKM-10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Capt. Tay (George Cheung) fires his AKM at Co Bao while still keeping his sinister "bad guy" face.]]
Poly Tech Legend AK-47
One of the Russian soldiers is seen with a genuine AK-47, likely a Poly Tech Legend AK-47 rifle, although this may have to be confirmed due to sketchy time era.
M16A1
Some of the Vietnamese pirates guarding the boat and docks are seen armed with M16A1 rifles.
M16A1 w/ A2 hand guards
A Vietnamese river pirate can be seen with an M16A1 fitted with A2 hand guards on the boat docks.
MGC M16 Replica
Next to the RPG-7 stored in the boat is an MGC M16 replica rifle.
Valmet M78/83
A Vietnamese pirate is seen armed with an Valmet M78/83 rifle in a tree. The M78/83 differs from the original M78 in that the clubfoot "RPK-style" butt-stock was replaced with a factory Dragunov-style thumb-hole stock. These were seen unaltered in the films Commando and Predator. At least one Vietnamese soldier is seen with one of these when chasing Rambo later on in the film.
Heckler & Koch HK93
A Vietnamese river pirate is seen armed with an H&K HK93 rifle while watching from a tree. It is far more likely to be an HK93 over an HK33 because Stembridge gun rentals had many in stock at the time and they were easier to acquire over the selective fire HK33 variant.
Heavy Machine Guns
M60E3
This is the chief weapon Rambo fires in the film. It is first seen being fired by a Russian door gunner after their UH-1 dropped napalm on the waterfall where Rambo was fleeing. When Rambo flies the POWs out of the prison camp in a Bell UH-1 Huey (possibly a Vietnamese one (due to the VPA making use of former ARVN weapons and vehicles after the Fall of Saigon in 1975) on loan to the Soviets), he lands the chopper and picks up the M60E3 machine gun from the chopper door. He later empties it in the command center to destroy all the high tech equipment and scare Marshall Murdock (Charles Napier) for betraying him.
M60 machine gun
CIA operator Banks (Andy Wood) mans the M60 machine gun with the bipod removed door-mounted on the Huey sent to pick up Rambo. He is seen providing covering fire with it in the rescue mission to retrieve Rambo.
Dual Browning M3 anti-aircraft
An opposing Vietnamese gunboat begins to blow apart the gunboat Rambo is on with dual mounted Browning M3 anti-aircraft .50 caliber guns, noted by their perforated barrel shrouds.
DShK (mock up)
When Rambo and the POWs escape the camp in their captured UH-1, Lt. Col. Podovsky (Steven Berkoff) chases them down in his Mil Mi-24 Hind-D (which in reality was a modified French Aerospatiale Puma). The door gunners on his Hind begin firing at Rambo with their M60D which are mocked up to resemble the aircraft model DShK heavy machine gun by being fitted with a semi-similar muzzle break and spade grips.
GE M134 Minigun
Mounted on the right side of the UH-1 is a GE M134 minigun which is electrically fired by Rambo at the controls when he strafes the POW camp and is then manned by one of the POWs, who manages to kill a Russian Hind door gunner with it.
Handguns
Zastava M57
Seen as the sidearms of all the Vietnamese soldiers is the Zastava M57, the Yugoslavian copy of the Russian Tokarev TT-33, which was in short supply at the time. The Chinese Norinco Type 54 would be more accurate for them to use for the film, which would be noted by a frame mounted safety switch (which these all lack).
SIG-Sauer P226
CIA operator Banks (Andy Wood) pulls out a SIG-Sauer P226 pistol and holds it to Colonel Trautman (Richard Crenna) when he tries to stop the chopper from leaving Rambo. It is noted as a P226 by its double stack creases on the frame. The P226 was a brand-new pistol on the American firearms market in 1984-85, when the film was made, so it is likely that Rambo: First Blood Part II is the very first movie to feature this gun (it was previously stated on IMFDb's RoboCop page that RoboCop was likely the first movie to feature a P226).
M1911A1
One of the Vietnamese pirates on the gun boat has an M1911A1 pistol in his holster and puts his hand on it when Rambo and Co Bao enter the boat.
Shotguns
Remington 870
A Vietnamese pirate can be seen wielding a Remington 870 shotgun with a wooden for-end, extended magazine tube, and folding stock. Rambo (Sylvester Stallone) fires a few rounds at the pirates with the shotgun.
Other Weapons
Fake RPG-7
Rambo disposes of an enemy boat by pulling a fake RPG-7 (which appears like the armorers of Red Dawn, who did this film, brought it with them from that film, albeit more convincingly dressed up) out from under a compartment in the gun boat. In promotional material for the film such as the poster above, the RPG-7 is shown with a PGO-7 scope, yet only has iron sights in the film.
M72 LAW
When Rambo crashes his chopper, Podovsky's Hind flies over to confirm the crash. Rambo plays dead until the Hind is in range, then fires (with the safety on) an M72 LAW launcher through the windshield and blows them up. It should be noted that the powerful back blast of the LAW would have likely killed or wounded all the POWs in the back of the chopper.
Rambo's Survival Knife
While not a gun, we let Rambo's knife stay because, well, he's Rambo and his knife completes him. Like in the original First Blood, Knife-smith Jimmy Lile was asked by Stallone to design a knife for the movie.
Hoyt Archery Rambo compound
Another non-firearm Rambo gets away with, his Hoyt Archery compound bow which has been well know as the "Torque Bow" because of the high explosive arrow tips he looses from it.
M67 "Baseball" grenade
When escaping the Vietnamese camp, Rambo grabs a bag of M67 "Baseball" Grenades and uses them against the soldiers.
M29 81mm Mortar
When Rambo, Co Bao, and the POW run through the rice paddy field, Vietnamese soldiers drop M29 81mm Mortars across the field at them but don't score a hit.
Trivia Specials
- The Soviet uniforms are US type 'Duck Hunter' fatigues dyed blue to look Russian. Also - due to service patches Soviet soldiers are meant to be from VDV (Airborne Troops Corp), but they incorrectly wear black berets (real VDV have blue-colored berets). Also the VDV shoulder patches are not 'trimmed' prior to sewing onto the sleeves.
- The "Mil-24" is an Aerospatiale Puma originally modified for the movie Red Dawn, but the mock front ends built for Red Dawn were removed (primarily because they hindered pilot vision and rendered the aircraft difficult to fly.) The Wings and rocket pods were maintained, however since they did not affect the aerodynamics of the helicopter.